Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: daniel49
Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: daniel49
Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: daniel49
The reaction (neocons) you see is a direct result of the action that had already taken place (ie...left wing wackos).
Wow, you are either stupid enough to believe your own tripe or evil enough to just mislead others.
See exactly whereof I speak. A left wing ideologue who thinks the world is begging for his DailyKos crap.
Whereas in reality mommy probably still pays your auto insurance.
You made a downright stupid claim without evidence, but your witty comeback shows how truly shallow you are.
What is a neocon? It's generally thought of a small group consisting of beltway think tank types and right wing government officials. PNAC is the most associated group along with Bill Krystal and his ilk. So this small group which advocates aggressive foreign policy, like the invasion of Iraq, is a reaction to?
.Wrong again Mr. Minister of disinformation.
wikipedia defines neoconservatism as the following
"Neoconservatism is a political current and ideology, mainly in the United States, which emerged in the 1960s, coalesced in the 1970s, and has had a significant presence in the administrations of Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush. It is today most closely identified with a set of foreign policy positions and goals: a hawkish stance during the Cold War and, more recently, in various conflicts in the Middle East. At times there have been distinct neoconservative positions in domestic policies; in particular, the first generation of neoconservatives were generally less opposed to "big government" and to social spending than other U.S. conservatives of the time, though they also called for significant restructuring of the goals and methods of many social programs.
The prefix neo- refers to two ways in which neoconservatism was new: many of the movement's founders, originally liberals, Democrats or from socialist backgrounds, were new to conservatism; neoconservatism was also a comparatively recent strain of conservative thought, which derived from a variety of intellectual roots in the decades following World War II. While some (such as Irving Kristol) have described themselves as "neoconservatives", the term is used today more by opponents and critics of this political current than by its adherents, some of whom reject even the claim that neoconservatism is an identifiable current of American political thought.
Within American conservatism, the foreign policy of neoconservatism is particularly contrasted to isolationism, especially as found in paleoconservatism. While the neoconservatives share some of the Christian right critique of a purely secular society, this is not as central to their politics as it is for the Christian right, nor are the neoconservative prescriptions always the same as those of the Christian right.
Neoconservatism is associated with periodicals such as Commentary and The Weekly Standard and some of the foreign policy initiatives of think tanks such as the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) and the Project for the New American Century (PNAC). Neoconservative journalists, pundits, policy analysts, and politicians, often dubbed "neocons" by supporters and critics alike, have been credited with (or blamed for) their influence on U.S. foreign policy, especially under the administrations of Ronald Reagan (1981-1989) and George W. Bush (2001-present)."
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Left wing wackos? Wow, you are profound. So who are they? Tree huggers? Anti-Vietnam people? WTF knows what you are talking about, I doubt you do.
In part you certainly could include many tree huggers and antiwar types in that group , but It would almost certainly have to be evaluated on a group by group or even individual basis as people have many different motivations for doing what they do. I would certainly tend to throw the blame USA first crowd in there.
See what you fail to realize is you come across in so many of your posts like the type of person that was talked about in that posted video. I suggest you watch it 9-10 times.
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Many Normal people that go to work, raise thier families, pay thier bills...etc don't like what people like you attempt to turn our country into. that is why we stop what we are doing in our busy lives to get involved with something like politics. We like America fine just the way it is. We have no desire to see the socialistic monster you want to turn it into it. If you like socialism move to Europe.
Maybe they are a reaction to pulling out of Lebanon after the Marine barrack bombing? Or maybe cut and running from Iraq 1991? Damn those left wing wackos...
So next time you make a really dumb comment that has no basis in reality and get called on it, try to think of something more clever than a lame "yo momma" joke.
Edit: It is an insult to physicist, past and present, for you to bastardize a theory such as Newton's, especially coming from the anti-science Christian right.
Try thinking about it for a few hours . Maybe it will come to you. But, I won't hold my breath.
And yo Mama, I notice you didn't deny it?
Wow, you follow up dumb with dumber. I know what a Neocon is, your cut and paste job repeated what I said, thanks. So you still have not backup up your original claim, how are the Neocons a "reaction" to anything and especially "left wing wackos"? We are waitng for your insightful analysis.
That is far different then the definition you gave. guess its beyond your comprehension?
I'm unclear why all of a sudden you did an O'Reily impressions and said I am a socialist and I am trying to ruin the country. Can you find my post that advocates socialism? Maybe you should hit up Wikipedia for Socialism too, knowledge is power.
Chalk it up to a year of reading your posts.
You want me to deny my mom pays my bills? Sorry that was a childish thing to say and didn't really deserve an actual response. I'm also confused why you think "Normal people that go to work, raise their families, pay their bills...etc " cannot be liberal. Maybe Fox news has you demonizing people who don't agree with your world view, too bad your are so small minded. you do realize 60% of the country wants to pull out of Iraq, I guess they are all "blame America first" people without families and jobs?
still not denying huh?
"Try thinking about it for a few hours"
Thinking on what? You posed no question, you said nothing of substance. You basically defined Neocon the same way I did with many more words, then called me a socialist and said I was ruining the country. Your debate skills are world class, really.
More meaningless opinions from you. I am not going to restate myself 30 times.
Why did you linked some locked thread? You think a speech that sounds like a Tom Cruise movie is somehow profound? When are you joining the military? I'm positive you are the perfect age (18-22).