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daniel49

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Originally posted by: Frackal
This country needs to expunge the (IMO) cancer known as neo-conservatism
In classical mechanics, Newton's third law states that forces occur in pairs, one called the action and the other the reaction. Both forces are equal in magnitude and opposite in direction. The distinction between action and reaction is purely arbitrary: anyone of the two forces can be considered an action, in which case the other (corresponding) force automatically becomes its associated reaction.

The reaction (neocons) you see is a direct result of the action that had already taken place (ie...left wing wackos).
 

Todd33

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Originally posted by: daniel49

The reaction (neocons) you see is a direct result of the action that had already taken place (ie...left wing wackos).
Wow, you are either stupid enough to believe your own tripe or evil enough to just mislead others.
 

daniel49

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Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: daniel49

The reaction (neocons) you see is a direct result of the action that had already taken place (ie...left wing wackos).
Wow, you are either stupid enough to believe your own tripe or evil enough to just mislead others.
See exactly whereof I speak. A left wing ideologue who thinks the world is begging for his DailyKos crap.
Whereas in reality mommy probably still pays your auto insurance.
 

Todd33

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Originally posted by: daniel49
Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: daniel49

The reaction (neocons) you see is a direct result of the action that had already taken place (ie...left wing wackos).
Wow, you are either stupid enough to believe your own tripe or evil enough to just mislead others.
See exactly whereof I speak. A left wing ideologue who thinks the world is begging for his DailyKos crap.
Whereas in reality mommy probably still pays your auto insurance.

You made a downright stupid claim without evidence, but your witty comeback shows how truly shallow you are.

What is a neocon? It's generally thought of a small group consisting of beltway think tank types and right wing government officials. PNAC is the most associated group along with Bill Krystal and his ilk. So this small group which advocates aggressive foreign policy, like the invasion of Iraq, is a reaction to?

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Left wing wackos? Wow, you are profound. So who are they? Tree huggers? Anti-Vietnam people? WTF knows what you are talking about, I doubt you do.

Maybe they are a reaction to pulling out of Lebanon after the Marine barrack bombing? Or maybe cut and running from Iraq 1991? Damn those left wing wackos...

So next time you make a really dumb comment that has no basis in reality and get called on it, try to think of something more clever than a lame "yo momma" joke.


Edit: It is an insult to physicist, past and present, for you to bastardize a theory such as Newton's, especially coming from the anti-science Christian right.
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: daniel49
Originally posted by: Frackal
This country needs to expunge the (IMO) cancer known as neo-conservatism
In classical mechanics, Newton's third law states that forces occur in pairs, one called the action and the other the reaction. Both forces are equal in magnitude and opposite in direction. The distinction between action and reaction is purely arbitrary: anyone of the two forces can be considered an action, in which case the other (corresponding) force automatically becomes its associated reaction.

The reaction (neocons) you see is a direct result of the action that had already taken place (ie...left wing wackos).
im not sure that such rules can be applied in such a direct fashion, and anyways, the neocons came first.
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: daniel49
Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: daniel49

The reaction (neocons) you see is a direct result of the action that had already taken place (ie...left wing wackos).
Wow, you are either stupid enough to believe your own tripe or evil enough to just mislead others.
See exactly whereof I speak. A left wing ideologue who thinks the world is begging for his DailyKos crap.
Whereas in reality mommy probably still pays your auto insurance.
nice troll 10/10
 

daveymark

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Sep 15, 2003
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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: daniel49
Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: daniel49

The reaction (neocons) you see is a direct result of the action that had already taken place (ie...left wing wackos).
Wow, you are either stupid enough to believe your own tripe or evil enough to just mislead others.
See exactly whereof I speak. A left wing ideologue who thinks the world is begging for his DailyKos crap.
Whereas in reality mommy probably still pays your auto insurance.
nice troll 10/10


pot, meet kettle
 

WHAMPOM

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Originally posted by: db
"I Miss Republicans.

"No, seriously. Remember Republicans? Sober men in suits, pipes, who'd nod thoughtfully over their latest tract on market-driven fiscal conservatism while grinding out the numbers on rocket science. Remember those serious-looking 1950's-1960's science guys in the movies -- Republican to a one.

"They were the grown-ups. They were the realists. Sure they were a bummer, maaaaan, but on the way to La Revolution you need somebody to remember where you parked the car. I was never one (nor a Democrat, really, more an agnostic libertarian big on the social contract, but we don't have a party ...), but I genuinely liked them.

"How did they become the party of fairy dust and make believe? How did they become the anti-science guys? The anti-fact guys? The anti-logic guys?

"I'm not talking McCain, Hagel, Snowe, or Lugar, here, the cool hard-ass Republicans who still operate in the real world. I'm talking specifically about the guys running the party right now."

...the rest
(posted in 2004 and still a good read!)
You are merely seeing them out from behind the curtain. Unchecked by any opposition, they do run amok.
 

shira

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Originally posted by: daniel49
Originally posted by: Frackal
This country needs to expunge the (IMO) cancer known as neo-conservatism
In classical mechanics, Newton's third law states that forces occur in pairs, one called the action and the other the reaction. Both forces are equal in magnitude and opposite in direction. The distinction between action and reaction is purely arbitrary: anyone of the two forces can be considered an action, in which case the other (corresponding) force automatically becomes its associated reaction.

The reaction (neocons) you see is a direct result of the action that had already taken place (ie...left wing wackos).
Not only is your analogy completely flawed, but your conclusion is absurd:

Explain to us what action by "left wing wackos" was the impetus for the neocon "reaction" called the invasion of Iraq.

Explain to us what action by left-wing wackos was the impetus for the neocon reaction in pursuing the biggest power-grab by the Executive branch in U.S. history.

Explain to us what action by left-wing wackos was the impetus for the neocon "reaction" in creating the most secretive, politicized, and dishonest Adminstration since Watergate?

Oh, I see. It was Clinton lying about sex.

 

daniel49

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Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: daniel49
Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: daniel49

The reaction (neocons) you see is a direct result of the action that had already taken place (ie...left wing wackos).
Wow, you are either stupid enough to believe your own tripe or evil enough to just mislead others.
See exactly whereof I speak. A left wing ideologue who thinks the world is begging for his DailyKos crap.
Whereas in reality mommy probably still pays your auto insurance.

You made a downright stupid claim without evidence, but your witty comeback shows how truly shallow you are.

What is a neocon? It's generally thought of a small group consisting of beltway think tank types and right wing government officials. PNAC is the most associated group along with Bill Krystal and his ilk. So this small group which advocates aggressive foreign policy, like the invasion of Iraq, is a reaction to?

.Wrong again Mr. Minister of disinformation.
wikipedia defines neoconservatism as the following

"Neoconservatism is a political current and ideology, mainly in the United States, which emerged in the 1960s, coalesced in the 1970s, and has had a significant presence in the administrations of Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush. It is today most closely identified with a set of foreign policy positions and goals: a hawkish stance during the Cold War and, more recently, in various conflicts in the Middle East. At times there have been distinct neoconservative positions in domestic policies; in particular, the first generation of neoconservatives were generally less opposed to "big government" and to social spending than other U.S. conservatives of the time, though they also called for significant restructuring of the goals and methods of many social programs.

The prefix neo- refers to two ways in which neoconservatism was new: many of the movement's founders, originally liberals, Democrats or from socialist backgrounds, were new to conservatism; neoconservatism was also a comparatively recent strain of conservative thought, which derived from a variety of intellectual roots in the decades following World War II. While some (such as Irving Kristol) have described themselves as "neoconservatives", the term is used today more by opponents and critics of this political current than by its adherents, some of whom reject even the claim that neoconservatism is an identifiable current of American political thought.

Within American conservatism, the foreign policy of neoconservatism is particularly contrasted to isolationism, especially as found in paleoconservatism. While the neoconservatives share some of the Christian right critique of a purely secular society, this is not as central to their politics as it is for the Christian right, nor are the neoconservative prescriptions always the same as those of the Christian right.

Neoconservatism is associated with periodicals such as Commentary and The Weekly Standard and some of the foreign policy initiatives of think tanks such as the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) and the Project for the New American Century (PNAC). Neoconservative journalists, pundits, policy analysts, and politicians, often dubbed "neocons" by supporters and critics alike, have been credited with (or blamed for) their influence on U.S. foreign policy, especially under the administrations of Ronald Reagan (1981-1989) and George W. Bush (2001-present)."
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Left wing wackos? Wow, you are profound. So who are they? Tree huggers? Anti-Vietnam people? WTF knows what you are talking about, I doubt you do.


In part you certainly could include many tree huggers and antiwar types in that group , but It would almost certainly have to be evaluated on a group by group or even individual basis as people have many different motivations for doing what they do. I would certainly tend to throw the blame USA first crowd in there.
See what you fail to realize is you come across in so many of your posts like the type of person that was talked about in that posted video. I suggest you watch it 9-10 times.
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Many Normal people that go to work, raise thier families, pay thier bills...etc don't like what people like you attempt to turn our country into. that is why we stop what we are doing in our busy lives to get involved with something like politics. We like America fine just the way it is. We have no desire to see the socialistic monster you want to turn it into it. If you like socialism move to Europe.


Maybe they are a reaction to pulling out of Lebanon after the Marine barrack bombing? Or maybe cut and running from Iraq 1991? Damn those left wing wackos...

So next time you make a really dumb comment that has no basis in reality and get called on it, try to think of something more clever than a lame "yo momma" joke.


Edit: It is an insult to physicist, past and present, for you to bastardize a theory such as Newton's, especially coming from the anti-science Christian right.
Try thinking about it for a few hours . Maybe it will come to you. But, I won't hold my breath.
And yo Mama, I notice you didn't deny it?
 

daniel49

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Jan 8, 2005
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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: daniel49
Originally posted by: Frackal
This country needs to expunge the (IMO) cancer known as neo-conservatism
In classical mechanics, Newton's third law states that forces occur in pairs, one called the action and the other the reaction. Both forces are equal in magnitude and opposite in direction. The distinction between action and reaction is purely arbitrary: anyone of the two forces can be considered an action, in which case the other (corresponding) force automatically becomes its associated reaction.

The reaction (neocons) you see is a direct result of the action that had already taken place (ie...left wing wackos).
im not sure that such rules can be applied in such a direct fashion, and anyways, the neocons came first.

read the last part slowly:

anyone of the two forces can be considered an action, in which case the other (corresponding) force automatically becomes its associated reaction.

what your attempting is a which came first the chicken or the egg argument.
 

DAPUNISHER

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Label and pigeon hole, to define a "Them".

There for just the briefest instant in eternity, almost everyone in the country stood shoulder to shoulder untied against a common threat. Then the present admin used it to further their agenda instead of the people's. What I miss, is what could have been, if they had chosen to embrace all the international good will the attack generated, and all the resources those countries would have willingly put at our disposal, for having done so.

My point is that I don't think it a matter of neocon v. conservative v. moderate v. liberal, but about personal agendas v. national.
 

BoberFett

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
As for big business, I dislike how Republicans allow lobbyists to come in and buy their vote and support companies that basically monopolize or oligapolize markets leaving the common man out in the cold.
What are you talking about? How about the Democrats being in bed with Big Entertainment to control what we see and hear? News? Ha, it's all entertainment, and it's all bought and paid for whether it be by Republicans and their big money friends (Fox) or Democrats and their big money friends (CNN).

I for one want to see party affiliation and incumbancy removed from the ballot. The only thing that should be on the ballot is the position and the names. If somebody wants to go in and vote for random candidates, have at it. At least it will be impossible to vote straight ticket unless you actually know the names of the candidates.
 

Todd33

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Originally posted by: daniel49
Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: daniel49
Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: daniel49

The reaction (neocons) you see is a direct result of the action that had already taken place (ie...left wing wackos).
Wow, you are either stupid enough to believe your own tripe or evil enough to just mislead others.
See exactly whereof I speak. A left wing ideologue who thinks the world is begging for his DailyKos crap.
Whereas in reality mommy probably still pays your auto insurance.

You made a downright stupid claim without evidence, but your witty comeback shows how truly shallow you are.

What is a neocon? It's generally thought of a small group consisting of beltway think tank types and right wing government officials. PNAC is the most associated group along with Bill Krystal and his ilk. So this small group which advocates aggressive foreign policy, like the invasion of Iraq, is a reaction to?

.Wrong again Mr. Minister of disinformation.
wikipedia defines neoconservatism as the following

"Neoconservatism is a political current and ideology, mainly in the United States, which emerged in the 1960s, coalesced in the 1970s, and has had a significant presence in the administrations of Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush. It is today most closely identified with a set of foreign policy positions and goals: a hawkish stance during the Cold War and, more recently, in various conflicts in the Middle East. At times there have been distinct neoconservative positions in domestic policies; in particular, the first generation of neoconservatives were generally less opposed to "big government" and to social spending than other U.S. conservatives of the time, though they also called for significant restructuring of the goals and methods of many social programs.

The prefix neo- refers to two ways in which neoconservatism was new: many of the movement's founders, originally liberals, Democrats or from socialist backgrounds, were new to conservatism; neoconservatism was also a comparatively recent strain of conservative thought, which derived from a variety of intellectual roots in the decades following World War II. While some (such as Irving Kristol) have described themselves as "neoconservatives", the term is used today more by opponents and critics of this political current than by its adherents, some of whom reject even the claim that neoconservatism is an identifiable current of American political thought.

Within American conservatism, the foreign policy of neoconservatism is particularly contrasted to isolationism, especially as found in paleoconservatism. While the neoconservatives share some of the Christian right critique of a purely secular society, this is not as central to their politics as it is for the Christian right, nor are the neoconservative prescriptions always the same as those of the Christian right.

Neoconservatism is associated with periodicals such as Commentary and The Weekly Standard and some of the foreign policy initiatives of think tanks such as the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) and the Project for the New American Century (PNAC). Neoconservative journalists, pundits, policy analysts, and politicians, often dubbed "neocons" by supporters and critics alike, have been credited with (or blamed for) their influence on U.S. foreign policy, especially under the administrations of Ronald Reagan (1981-1989) and George W. Bush (2001-present)."
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Wait for it...
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Left wing wackos? Wow, you are profound. So who are they? Tree huggers? Anti-Vietnam people? WTF knows what you are talking about, I doubt you do.


In part you certainly could include many tree huggers and antiwar types in that group , but It would almost certainly have to be evaluated on a group by group or even individual basis as people have many different motivations for doing what they do. I would certainly tend to throw the blame USA first crowd in there.
See what you fail to realize is you come across in so many of your posts like the type of person that was talked about in that posted video. I suggest you watch it 9-10 times.
Text

Many Normal people that go to work, raise thier families, pay thier bills...etc don't like what people like you attempt to turn our country into. that is why we stop what we are doing in our busy lives to get involved with something like politics. We like America fine just the way it is. We have no desire to see the socialistic monster you want to turn it into it. If you like socialism move to Europe.


Maybe they are a reaction to pulling out of Lebanon after the Marine barrack bombing? Or maybe cut and running from Iraq 1991? Damn those left wing wackos...

So next time you make a really dumb comment that has no basis in reality and get called on it, try to think of something more clever than a lame "yo momma" joke.


Edit: It is an insult to physicist, past and present, for you to bastardize a theory such as Newton's, especially coming from the anti-science Christian right.
Try thinking about it for a few hours . Maybe it will come to you. But, I won't hold my breath.
And yo Mama, I notice you didn't deny it?
Wow, you follow up dumb with dumber. I know what a Neocon is, your cut and paste job repeated what I said, thanks. So you still have not backup up your original claim, how are the Neocons a "reaction" to anything and especially "left wing wackos"? We are waitng for your insightful analysis.

I'm unclear why all of a sudden you did an O'Reily impressions and said I am a socialist and I am trying to ruin the country. Can you find my post that advocates socialism? Maybe you should hit up Wikipedia for Socialism too, knowledge is power.

You want me to deny my mom pays my bills? Sorry that was a childish thing to say and didn't really deserve an actual response. I'm also confused why you think "Normal people that go to work, raise their families, pay their bills...etc " cannot be liberal. Maybe Fox news has you demonizing people who don't agree with your world view, too bad your are so small minded. you do realize 60% of the country wants to pull out of Iraq, I guess they are all "blame America first" people without families and jobs?

"Try thinking about it for a few hours"

Thinking on what? You posed no question, you said nothing of substance. You basically defined Neocon the same way I did with many more words, then called me a socialist and said I was ruining the country. Your debate skills are world class, really.

Why did you linked some locked thread? You think a speech that sounds like a Tom Cruise movie is somehow profound? When are you joining the military? I'm positive you are the perfect age (18-22).
 

daniel49

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Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: daniel49
Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: daniel49
Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: daniel49

The reaction (neocons) you see is a direct result of the action that had already taken place (ie...left wing wackos).
Wow, you are either stupid enough to believe your own tripe or evil enough to just mislead others.
See exactly whereof I speak. A left wing ideologue who thinks the world is begging for his DailyKos crap.
Whereas in reality mommy probably still pays your auto insurance.

You made a downright stupid claim without evidence, but your witty comeback shows how truly shallow you are.

What is a neocon? It's generally thought of a small group consisting of beltway think tank types and right wing government officials. PNAC is the most associated group along with Bill Krystal and his ilk. So this small group which advocates aggressive foreign policy, like the invasion of Iraq, is a reaction to?

.Wrong again Mr. Minister of disinformation.
wikipedia defines neoconservatism as the following

"Neoconservatism is a political current and ideology, mainly in the United States, which emerged in the 1960s, coalesced in the 1970s, and has had a significant presence in the administrations of Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush. It is today most closely identified with a set of foreign policy positions and goals: a hawkish stance during the Cold War and, more recently, in various conflicts in the Middle East. At times there have been distinct neoconservative positions in domestic policies; in particular, the first generation of neoconservatives were generally less opposed to "big government" and to social spending than other U.S. conservatives of the time, though they also called for significant restructuring of the goals and methods of many social programs.

The prefix neo- refers to two ways in which neoconservatism was new: many of the movement's founders, originally liberals, Democrats or from socialist backgrounds, were new to conservatism; neoconservatism was also a comparatively recent strain of conservative thought, which derived from a variety of intellectual roots in the decades following World War II. While some (such as Irving Kristol) have described themselves as "neoconservatives", the term is used today more by opponents and critics of this political current than by its adherents, some of whom reject even the claim that neoconservatism is an identifiable current of American political thought.

Within American conservatism, the foreign policy of neoconservatism is particularly contrasted to isolationism, especially as found in paleoconservatism. While the neoconservatives share some of the Christian right critique of a purely secular society, this is not as central to their politics as it is for the Christian right, nor are the neoconservative prescriptions always the same as those of the Christian right.

Neoconservatism is associated with periodicals such as Commentary and The Weekly Standard and some of the foreign policy initiatives of think tanks such as the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) and the Project for the New American Century (PNAC). Neoconservative journalists, pundits, policy analysts, and politicians, often dubbed "neocons" by supporters and critics alike, have been credited with (or blamed for) their influence on U.S. foreign policy, especially under the administrations of Ronald Reagan (1981-1989) and George W. Bush (2001-present)."
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Wait for it...
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Left wing wackos? Wow, you are profound. So who are they? Tree huggers? Anti-Vietnam people? WTF knows what you are talking about, I doubt you do.


In part you certainly could include many tree huggers and antiwar types in that group , but It would almost certainly have to be evaluated on a group by group or even individual basis as people have many different motivations for doing what they do. I would certainly tend to throw the blame USA first crowd in there.
See what you fail to realize is you come across in so many of your posts like the type of person that was talked about in that posted video. I suggest you watch it 9-10 times.
Text

Many Normal people that go to work, raise thier families, pay thier bills...etc don't like what people like you attempt to turn our country into. that is why we stop what we are doing in our busy lives to get involved with something like politics. We like America fine just the way it is. We have no desire to see the socialistic monster you want to turn it into it. If you like socialism move to Europe.


Maybe they are a reaction to pulling out of Lebanon after the Marine barrack bombing? Or maybe cut and running from Iraq 1991? Damn those left wing wackos...

So next time you make a really dumb comment that has no basis in reality and get called on it, try to think of something more clever than a lame "yo momma" joke.


Edit: It is an insult to physicist, past and present, for you to bastardize a theory such as Newton's, especially coming from the anti-science Christian right.
Try thinking about it for a few hours . Maybe it will come to you. But, I won't hold my breath.
And yo Mama, I notice you didn't deny it?
Wow, you follow up dumb with dumber. I know what a Neocon is, your cut and paste job repeated what I said, thanks. So you still have not backup up your original claim, how are the Neocons a "reaction" to anything and especially "left wing wackos"? We are waitng for your insightful analysis.


That is far different then the definition you gave. guess its beyond your comprehension?

I'm unclear why all of a sudden you did an O'Reily impressions and said I am a socialist and I am trying to ruin the country. Can you find my post that advocates socialism? Maybe you should hit up Wikipedia for Socialism too, knowledge is power.

Chalk it up to a year of reading your posts.

You want me to deny my mom pays my bills? Sorry that was a childish thing to say and didn't really deserve an actual response. I'm also confused why you think "Normal people that go to work, raise their families, pay their bills...etc " cannot be liberal. Maybe Fox news has you demonizing people who don't agree with your world view, too bad your are so small minded. you do realize 60% of the country wants to pull out of Iraq, I guess they are all "blame America first" people without families and jobs?

still not denying huh?
"Try thinking about it for a few hours"

Thinking on what? You posed no question, you said nothing of substance. You basically defined Neocon the same way I did with many more words, then called me a socialist and said I was ruining the country. Your debate skills are world class, really.

More meaningless opinions from you. I am not going to restate myself 30 times.

Why did you linked some locked thread? You think a speech that sounds like a Tom Cruise movie is somehow profound? When are you joining the military? I'm positive you are the perfect age (18-22).
because you sound just like the namby pamby spoiled brats the colonel was talking about. I respect what he said. the thread was locked to avoid the ensuing flames.
Guess that whisked over your head also?
yes, I am 18-22:laugh:

end of discussion. you will have to wait for the next thread to exchange more insults with me.
 

zendari

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I miss the Democratic party that didn't kneel before gays and feminists and their agenda, the Democratic party that didn't engage and promote class jealousy and warfare. The Democratic party that believed in individuals and responsibility. The Democratic party that actually believed in choices, not just their choices. The Democratic party that didn't hate religion and religious people. The Democratic party that didn't think of themselves as superior or elitist but instead as citizens.

Clearly, the country missed them in 00, 02, and 04.
 

CaptnKirk

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Originally posted by: zendari
I miss the Democratic party that didn't kneel before gays and feminists and their agenda, the Democratic party that didn't engage and promote class jealousy and warfare. The Democratic party that believed in individuals and responsibility. The Democratic party that actually believed in choices, not just their choices. The Democratic party that didn't hate religion and religious people. The Democratic party that didn't think of themselves as superior or elitist but instead as citizens.

Clearly, the country missed them in 00, 02, and 04.

You've got to be two people - 'cause no one person can be as outrageously ignorant as you.

 

Todd33

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For the record:

It's generally thought of a small group consisting of beltway think tank types and right wing government officials. PNAC is the most associated group along with Bill Krystal and his ilk. So this small group which advocates aggressive foreign policy, like the invasion of Iraq
Neoconservatism is associated with periodicals such as Commentary and The Weekly Standard and some of the foreign policy initiatives of think tanks such as the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) and the Project for the New American Century (PNAC). Neoconservative journalists, pundits, policy analysts, and politicians, often dubbed "neocons" by supporters and critics alike, have been credited with (or blamed for) their influence on U.S. foreign policy, especially under the administrations of Ronald Reagan (1981-1989) and George W. Bush (2001-present)."

It is today most closely identified with a set of foreign policy positions and goals: a hawkish stance during the Cold War and, more recently, in various conflicts in the Middle East.
BTW Bill Krystal is the editor of the Weekly Standard. So again, I made a two sentence summary of the Neocons and it fit 100% with Wikipedia, yet I have reading comprehension problems?

Again you respond with no substance, no argument that backs your OP, no links to my "socialist" views. You are a naive kid, probably still wet behind the ears and just out of your parents house. You regurgitate talking points from Rush. You have been 100% wrong about every characterization of me, yet I have nailed you down with ease. You are transparent.

I'm a "namby pamby spoiled brat", yet you are the 18-22 year old white kid from the burbs, wow - talk about projecting.

Kids like you and Zentroll amaze me. You move out of mommy's house with the baggage of your parents politics and religion and stick everyone who disagree with you into a little box (probably just like your dad did). I've come up with the young RNC grab-a-cliche to make your posting easier.

Liberals..
blame America first or just plain hate it
hate the troops
are all hippies
hate God and family
kill babies
loves taxes
are all gay
want as many Mexicans as possible for votes


Maybe it's time you go read a few books, get some life experience, meet some non-white people outside of church and age a few years - it will do you good.
 

daniel49

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Originally posted by: Todd33
For the record:

It's generally thought of a small group consisting of beltway think tank types and right wing government officials. PNAC is the most associated group along with Bill Krystal and his ilk. So this small group which advocates aggressive foreign policy, like the invasion of Iraq
Neoconservatism is associated with periodicals such as Commentary and The Weekly Standard and some of the foreign policy initiatives of think tanks such as the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) and the Project for the New American Century (PNAC). Neoconservative journalists, pundits, policy analysts, and politicians, often dubbed "neocons" by supporters and critics alike, have been credited with (or blamed for) their influence on U.S. foreign policy, especially under the administrations of Ronald Reagan (1981-1989) and George W. Bush (2001-present)."

It is today most closely identified with a set of foreign policy positions and goals: a hawkish stance during the Cold War and, more recently, in various conflicts in the Middle East.
BTW Bill Krystal is the editor of the Weekly Standard. So again, I made a two sentence summary of the Neocons and it fit 100% with Wikipedia, yet I have reading comprehension problems?

Again you respond with no substance, no argument that backs your OP, no links to my "socialist" views. You are a naive kid, probably still wet behind the ears and just out of your parents house. You regurgitate talking points from Rush. You have been 100% wrong about every characterization of me, yet I have nailed you down with ease. You are transparent.

I'm a "namby pamby spoiled brat", yet you are the 18-22 year old white kid from the burbs, wow - talk about projecting.

Kids like you and Zentroll amaze me. You move out of mommy's house with the baggage of your parents politics and religion and stick everyone who disagree with you into a little box (probably just like your dad did). I've come up with the young RNC grab-a-cliche to make your posting easier.

Liberals..
blame America first or just plain hate it
hate the troops
are all hippies
hate God and family
kill babies
loves taxes
are all gay
want as many Mexicans as possible for votes


Maybe it's time you go read a few books, get some life experience, meet some non-white people outside of church and age a few years - it will do you good.
Just like your politics so far off its amazing:roll:
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: Todd33
For the record:
Liberals..
blame America first or just plain hate it
hate the troops
are all hippies
hate God and family
kill babies
loves taxes
are all gay
want as many Mexicans as possible for votes
The bolded, at least, is certainly true. Look in the mirror.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Mursilis
Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
I wouldn't have a problem with Republicans if they stopped harping on the abortion issue. I really believe anyone who votes based on the morality of this instead of economic beliefs need to lose their right to vote.
Who are you to tell othere people how to order their priorities?!? Lots of people are 'single issue' votes, whether that issue is abortion, the Iraqi war, gay marriage (both con AND pro), etc. I may or may not agree with that approach, but I'm not arrogant enough to think they shouldn't be allowed to vote because of it
Reading comprhension isn't your strong suit obviously. Nowhere in his post did he state that anybody shouldn't be allowed to vote.
 

Todd33

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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Todd33
For the record:
Liberals..
blame America first or just plain hate it
hate the troops
are all hippies
hate God and family
kill babies
loves taxes
are all gay
want as many Mexicans as possible for votes
The bolded, at least, is certainly true. Look in the mirror.
I'm an Atheist, I don't hate something that doesn't exist. I am a scientist and don't believe in a lot of things, including fairy tales, ESP, alien abduction, etc.
 

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