I Might be recommending an ATI card to friend.

[OILFIELDTRASH]

I'm building a rig for a friend. So far we've decided on the i5 platform. Next was the video card. From what I'm seeing in reviews the 5770 seem to be the best bang for the buck in his price range. He's in the 150-170 price range. Does anyone have any experience with the 5770? How are the 5770 when you hook them up to a big screen tv (plasma)? I know nvidia has great drivers and my gtx280 fills the screen on my HDTV @ 1080p perfectly. I'm a big nvidia guy but I'll recommend the best card for the money.

 

[TheRickRoller]

The 5750 is the bang for the buck. The 5770 is not that much stronger than the 5750 while being far, far weaker than the 5850.

 

[nemesismk2]

I agree the 5750 is currently the best bang for the buck.

 

[v8envy]

GTS250 offers the same bang for buckness as the 5750 if you want to go the green route. Slightly less performance, slightly less $. If you can find a 4870 for $120-ish that would be even better.

 

[happy medium]

I use a vga connection for my 5750 on my TV.
I heard there is problems with the hdmi on the 5xxx series.
Flickering screens and such.

 

[toyota]

I personally think the 5770 is worth the extra 25 bucks or so over the 5750. depending on the review you look at the 5770 offers a pretty decent increase in playable settings. in this review the 5770 allowed a resolution bump and increased settings over the 5750. http://hardocp.com/article/2009/10/12/amd_ati_radeon_hd_5770_5750_review/6

 

[happy medium]

I personally think the 5770 is worth the extra 25 bucks or so over the 5750. depending on the review you look at the 5770 offers a pretty decent increase in playable settings. in this review the 5770 allowed a resolution bump and increased settings over the 5750. http://hardocp.com/article/2009/10/12/amd_ati_radeon_hd_5770_5750_review/6

I agree,the 5770 is 152$ on newegg, and the 5750 is 130$.
A 5750 generally will overclock to 860,1300 ,while the 5770 reach 960,1350.
The 5770 has 80 more sp's also.

 

[shangshang]

if your buddy
1) don't care for DX11 (shouldn't on the 5750)
2) don't mind buying used on Ebay

then an alternative is look for a used 4890 on Ebay.

 

[pcslookout]

I use a vga connection for my 5750 on my TV.
I heard there is problems with the hdmi on the 5xxx series.
Flickering screens and such.

Remember my thread topic about the tv out question well that is what I had to do as well. I use to use s-video. Thought at first I couldn't go ATI sense I needed a s-video connection to have my projector hooked up as well. Thankfully I didn't

 

[blanketyblank]

I've got a 5770 hooked up to a 42" plasma and it works prefectly at 1920 x 1080 when I sit close and 1360x766 when I sit far. Just make sure you can find the overscan and underscan controls and you'll be golden.

I'm hooking it up via dvi to hdmi. I'm not sure if it is my cable, but I have the strange feeling the text looks more crisp via dvi than via the hdmi port. I'm missing out on the sound via hdmi, but I use external speakers or bluetooth headphone anyways.

Personally I'd say the $20-30 difference for the 5770 is well worth it since in many instances the 5750 comes in under 30 fps while the 5770 can remain smooth.

 

[sandorski]

It always starts out this way, "Recommending" it to a friend. Soon the friend will be telling you how great it is and encouraging you to try it too. You will resist for a long time, but as you see the look of wonder and ecstasy on their face you will become increasingly curious. Curiosity will lead to temptation and soon you'll be mooching time on your friend's PC and begin experiencing that rush of satisfaction. A little here and a little there will soon have you bogarting your friends PC causing the first signs of trouble. Your friend begins to withhold and in a state of confusion you rush out and buy some from the local dealer. Insanely excited you rush home, run past your Parents/Spouse rudely not even acknowledging their existence. Up to the room you go closing the door behind you, so excited in anticipation that your whole body is buzzing and your thoughts are completely focused on the awesomeness you're about to feel. Haphazardly you rip off the side of the Case and remove the old vidcard, trying not to forget any important step, because if you mess up and delay any longer than necessary your very Life will cease. There's a knock on the door, Parents/Spouse are concerned, you take a few seconds to muster up the focus to convince them you're alright. Once convinced and they leave you are so relieved that your legs turn to rubber and you fall to the floor. Overwhelmed with anticipation you claw your way to the PC, finishing the last few steps to the fix. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

20 years later you're living in a Box drinking Power Steering fluid and yelling incoherently at passersby. Good luck with that.

 

[TurtleCrusher]

..... 20 years later you're living in a Box drinking Power Steering fluid and yelling incoherently at passersby. Good luck with that.

Lolwut?

 

[Imp]

I originally wanted the 5750 since it's performance is pretty similar to that of a 5770 while being ~$30 cheaper than a 5770; only problem is that most stores are jacking up the 5750 and 5770 prices. My local stores stopped stocking the cheaper 5750s and only had overpriced, OC'd ones that were only $25 less and hard as hell to find. If you can find it, go for it.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Well guys after doing some more research I have decided to go with a Nvidia gpu. The gray screen stuff and not being able to use with a plasma tv were too much for Ati to overcome. He's going with the gts 250 for $135. I know it's not going to have the performance of the ATI equivalent card but I know nvidia's drivers are rock solid and he should have a trouble free experience using it on his plasma tv.

 

[crisium]

The gray screen stuff and not being able to use with a plasma tv were too much for Ati to overcome.

What's this?

And I hope that GTS 250 is a 1GB. If you paid $135 for a 512MB I think I'll throw up a little in my mouth.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

What's this?

And I hope that GTS 250 is a 1GB. If you paid $135 for a 512MB I think I'll throw up a little in my mouth.

It was a 1gb. It's for a friends build.

As far as the gray screen thing there is a thread on guys having big issues with it. I also read a thread about guys having to use VGA just to use Ati cards on hdtv's. They are both legitimate issues ati users are having. Nvidia cards are overpriced if you go by just strictly gaming fps. If you factor in nvidia quality, drivers, and physX, they are still a good buy. If he was just gaming on a 22" monitor then I would of probably went Ati but the HDTV issues are just too much. I still think ati has some growing to do before I'll buy one.

 

[mm2587]

lol at nvidia's quality and drivers being any better then ati's at the moment. Also the grey screen issues that only effects a very small number of people (estimates of less than 1% of the total number of 5000 series cards) should have been fixed in the last driver hotfix specifically designed to fix it. Also not sure why you think hooking an hdmi cable up to a modern hdtv is going to be any different then using that same cable to hook it up to a 22" monitor. Hell a lot of the time they're the same resolution. I just will never understand the fanboy mentality. As it stands today Ati is the better buy. If that changes I'll be the first to recomend an nvidia card, but thats not the situation now, and its a shame your friend gets less for his money because of your misplaced brand loyalty.

 

[blanketyblank]

The VGA thing isn't really due to the card, but the TV. Some TVs just don't work that well as a monitor with a digital signal, but they include a VGA port that responds better. Overscaling or underscaling can get the picture to fit the screen, but sometimes there is a flicker effect every now and then when going through the hdmi. I've had this problem on a 32" TV before going through digital using an 8800 GTS. It goes away if you use the vga port instead.

 

[tweakboy]

Go green if he want's to do a setup like yours. If not

5750 sounds good, gl

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

mm2587 If going with the best quality products that I've trusted for years means I'm a fanboy then I'm guilty.

I guess you've never used a HDTV for a monitor before because it usually is never so easy as just plugging it in like a monitor.

Until Ati can prove they are legit competition for nvidia as far as quality, drivers, easy to use, and I don't see a bunch of threads about issues involving their cards I'll stick with nvidia.

 

[toyota]

mm2587 If going with the best quality products that I've trusted for years means I'm a fanboy then I'm guilty.

I guess you've never used a HDTV for a monitor before because it usually is never so easy as just plugging it in like a monitor.

Until Ati can prove they are legit competition for nvidia as far as quality, drivers, easy to use, and I don't see a bunch of threads about issues involving their cards I'll stick with nvidia.

yeah just get what you are comfortable with.

 

[statik213]

What about 4890/4870? Aren't they faster? You'd lose DX11 though.

 

[tweakboy]

Have a friend with the 5770 and Phenom X4 550 and it's very fast... Very good card for the bang,, gl

 

[RussianSensation]

As far as the gray screen thing there is a thread on guys having big issues with it. I also read a thread about guys having to use VGA just to use Ati cards on hdtv's.

I have been using 4890 with 1920x1080 monitor for more than 6 months without issues through a DVI cable. The 2-D quality (sharpness of text) is superior to 8800GTS 320mb imo. The gray screen issues has been fixed with a Hotfix from ATI.

 

[Imp]

mm2587 If going with the best quality products that I've trusted for years means I'm a fanboy then I'm guilty.

I guess you've never used a HDTV for a monitor before because it usually is never so easy as just plugging it in like a monitor.

Until Ati can prove they are legit competition for nvidia as far as quality, drivers, easy to use, and I don't see a bunch of threads about issues involving their cards I'll stick with nvidia.

That's not remotely fanboy-ish.

The GT250 is priced well, cheaper than a 5750 (more rebates/sales since it's about a year old) with somewhat worse performance. I almost got it a few times, but decded on a 5770. It'll be a less painful upgrade.