'I make no apologies': Pompeo says Trump administration was protecting sensitive information

Vic

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I'm no fan of Assange, but reading the part where Pompeo defended wanting to use govt power to kill him as "all about a big, bold, strong First Amendment," I have to ask why all these Republican leaders keep pushing this upside-down world version of the 1a. Because the purpose of the 1a is to protect the people from the govt, and not the other way around.
 

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yeah, all the hookers he fucked and all the businesses he ruined.
Assange is by no means an honorable person but they were apparently talking about taking him out on streets of London in one plan, like from some movie, it's so amateurish.
 

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I'm no fan of Assange, but reading the part where Pompeo defended wanting to use govt power to kill him as "all about a big, bold, strong First Amendment," I have to ask why all these Republican leaders keep pushing this upside-down world version of the 1a. Because the purpose of the 1a is to protect the people from the govt, and not the other way around.
And, of course, a party deeply comitted to personal freedoms like the Republican party would be the first in line to use that power to limit anyone else's freedom but their own. Deep belief in moral principles, in other words, fanaticism, is what drives the conviction one is justified to apply ones own personal sense of wright and wrong. Fanaticism is the conversion factor that turns personal belief into absolute truth. Personal belief can become cult belief in the presence of widespread stress and fear, real or ginned up
 

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Assange is by no means an honorable person but they were apparently talking about taking him out on streets of London in one plan, like from some movie, it's so amateurish.
We were just one election away from Trump and Friends hiring some of their Saudi buddies to hack him into pieces in a convenient foreign embassy.
 

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I'm no fan of Assange, but reading the part where Pompeo defended wanting to use govt power to kill him as "all about a big, bold, strong First Amendment," I have to ask why all these Republican leaders keep pushing this upside-down world version of the 1a. Because the purpose of the 1a is to protect the people from the govt, and not the other way around.
Because they have found that lying has no consequences.
 
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Pompeo has demonstrated proudly at every turn over many years what a loathsome individual he is. It's kind of amazing being so determined to convince every person you meet that you're just an unrepentant shitbag with no redeeming virtues.
 

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Because they have found that lying has no consequences.
True, especially with regards to grifting politicians like Pompeo, but I have also come to believe that conservatives in general see the Constitution as a weapon to be used against political opponents. There's really no other way IMO that Pompeo can sell the threat of extrajudicial govt violence against someone who divulged state secrets as protecting the 1a.
 
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True, especially with regards to grifting politicians like Pompeo, but I have also come to believe that conservatives in general see the Constitution as a weapon to be used against political opponents. There's really no other way IMO that Pompeo can sell the threat of extrajudicial govt violence against someone who divulged state secrets as protecting the 1a.
While I agree that unscrupulous people like Pompeo are particularly bad I don't think most Americans actually care about the Constitution. Or put another way the wording is so vague in most cases that people can convince themselves it says whatever they want. This is why our fetishization of the Constitution is bad, because we pretend like there's some objective meaning to most of it when it's really just a set of principles that all political players are supposed to accept.

This is the real issue - Republicans have decided maybe they don't like those principles so much anymore because they view their political opponents not as misguided countrymen but as an existential threat to be defeated and subjugated. It's the main reason why I think next time the Republicans win the presidency they won't give it up.