I love skiing. Ways to go faster? Biffed at 47mph today.

[fuzzybabybunny]

I'm in NorCal, so we have Lake Tahoe.

Quicktip: if you love to ski, don't go to Heavenly. The runs suck, are slow and short, there's a lot of people to dodge, and it's expensive ($85).

I've been skiing 4 times. I just bought my first pair of skiis a couple weeks ago (Salomon X-Wing 8's).

I went to Northstar today and the runs are MUCH better than Heavenly, but a lot icier due to the lower elevation.

Went down a black diamond (Burnout), got to 47mph, hit a jump that I didn't see coming (due to the f*cking yellow lenses that suck on overcast days), and proceeded to not land right and tumble. A lot.

The following runs on Burnout I hit up to 56mph. Want to work my way up to 60mph, but scared. I don't think my intermediate skis are made for it?

What are other ways to get faster?

 

[Soccerman06]

If your going down a black diamond and it doesnt have moguls or trees and/or rocks, its not a real black diamond. If you want to go fast, point your skiis straight and find something steep and long. The more groomed and icy the slope, the faster you can go because powder just slows you down.

Go too fast and not knowing how to slow down properly you will hurt yourself.

edit: As for your skis, the stiffer and more rigid they are generally the faster they will go. This is not 100% but is a good guideline. Do not buy powder or trick skis and expect them be as good in racing. Go to whichever hill you can find that allows dealers to demo skis (free or for charge) and see if something suites you as an upgrade.

Do yourself a favor and go to montana, utah, idaho, colorado, or canada (if your brave enough) and see a real mountain. Theres really nothing good in cali in terms of a mountain. I havent been in years as I fucked up one of my knees pretty bad over the last 15 years of being stupid and going through trees and cliffs, but I loved Big Mountain in montana when I was growing up.

 

[RedCOMET]

If your going down a black diamond and it doesnt have moguls or trees and/or rocks, its not a real black diamond

false.

 

[fuzzybabybunny]

If your going down a black diamond and it doesnt have moguls or trees and/or rocks, its not a real black diamond. If you want to go fast, point your skiis straight and find something steep and long. The more groomed and icy the slope, the faster you can go because powder just slows you down.

Go too fast and not knowing how to slow down properly you will hurt yourself.

Even if the run is very very steep? I know that people can normally get 60+mph on this run. That is NOT a blue. And there are points where it goes steep, then flattens out for a very small bit, then goes very steep again, so if you don't slow down at least before those flat areas, you'd going to FLY for a long, long way, lol.

 

[skyking]

You're obsessing about a number there, man. Enjoy yourself and stay in control.
The shaped skis they sell these days are designed to turn well. Straighten out and lay them flat, and they get a shimmy going, depending on the ski and speed. If you want to go fast and feel stable, carve really big radius turns and the shimmy goes away.
Conversely, you could finds some old board like I have, they don't turn as well, but they don't get funky till you are really cooking.

 

[eldorado99]

...Rockets?

 

[fuzzybabybunny]

You're obsessing about a number there, man. Enjoy yourself and stay in control.
The shaped skis they sell these days are designed to turn well. Straighten out and lay them flat, and they get a shimmy going, depending on the ski and speed. If you want to go fast and feel stable, carve really big radius turns and the shimmy goes away.
Conversely, you could finds some old board like I have, they don't turn as well, but they don't get funky till you are really cooking.

I enjoy myself far more when I'm going fast. I feel much more stable and in control. 90% of my falls are at slower speeds, usually trying to avoid hitting someone going much slower who's carving across the entire width of the run and with unpredictable direction changes. The only thing that I worry about is hitting a jump that I don't see. This always seems to happen on overcast days when my orange lenses can't show me details (the entire run is more or less solid orange with no contrast). I've been in the middle of a carve and Surprise! I'm now in the air, going 45mph... and flying sideways.

 

[Soccerman06]

Even if the run is very very steep? I know that people can normally get 60+mph on this run. That is NOT a blue. And there are points where it goes steep, then flattens out for a very small bit, then goes very steep again, so if you don't slow down at least before those flat areas, you'd going to FLY for a long, long way, lol.

If your talking about the ones with cross paths for people, you should always slow down for those, you never know whats going to be on the other side. Someone snowboarder could be sitting there chilling just under the dip or a random person crossing the path at a decent speed and you wont stop in time if your going fast. As for the flying, ya its the name of the game going fast, you hit a bumb and you could be in the air for 5ft, you hit a sudden drop and you could be in the air for 30ft. Go to the greens and go into the side paths with decent speed and learn to land so that you can handle those odd bumps. Dont just jump right into speed without proper experience.

 

[fuzzybabybunny]

If your talking about the ones with cross paths for people, you should always slow down for those, you never know whats going to be on the other side. Someone snowboarder could be sitting there chilling just under the dip or a random person crossing the path at a decent speed and you wont stop in time if your going fast. As for the flying, ya its the name of the game going fast, you hit a bumb and you could be in the air for 5ft, you hit a sudden drop and you could be in the air for 30ft.

Naw, I'm not talking about a crosspath. Just a small flat area and then another sudden dip. Good for flying if you don't slow down.

 

[NetWareHead]

Even if the run is very very steep? I know that people can normally get 60+mph on this run. That is NOT a blue. And there are points where it goes steep, then flattens out for a very small bit, then goes very steep again, so if you don't slow down at least before those flat areas, you'd going to FLY for a long, long way, lol.

This...sounds like a dream. So far the fastest mountain I've skied at was Sugarloaf in Maine where I clocked over 50 mph. It was perfect groomed conditions where you could charge forward with full confidence. Never went as fast as that day in my life. 60+ has to be unreal!

 

[Soccerman06]

Naw, I'm not talking about a crosspath. Just a small flat area and then another sudden dip. Good for flying if you don't slow down.

Well then, to answer your question, those salamon are decent enough for you to go as fast as you can handle. If you start going fast enough and your skis start to vibrate, its time for an upgrade. Like I said in one of my random edits you should go to a demo day at a park and try some good skis and since the season is about over, you might be able to snag a good deal on something expensive.

These are blacks and double blacks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy93wIxKKxo Anything other than these are considered bunny trails imo. (tho a lot is offtrail)

 

[Dirigible]

You need to stop fucking doing shit like that before someone gets seriously injured or maimed or killed because of your irresponsibility. You say you have been skiing four times. You call Burnout steep and it's not. You clearly have little experience. And you're trying for 60 mph.

Put simply: you are scum if you keep that up and I hope horrible things happen to you. Little kids go down the backside at Northstar and you are endangering them. I am going to bookmark this thread and if I hear of an accident that sounds like you are involved I will contact the authorities and work like hell to see you punished.

If you want to go fast, fine. But do it safely and responsibly. Get more skills. Stay in control on public slopes. Join a ski racing league and race on closed courses where you'll only hurt yourself.

Seriously. WTF are you thinking? Ass.

 

[Dirigible]

I'm in NorCal, so we have Lake Tahoe.

Quicktip: if you love to ski, don't go to Heavenly. The runs suck, are slow and short, there's a lot of people to dodge, and it's expensive ($85).

I've been skiing 4 times. I just bought my first pair of skiis a couple weeks ago (Salomon X-Wing 8's).

I went to Northstar today and the runs are MUCH better than Heavenly, but a lot icier due to the lower elevation.

Went down a black diamond (Burnout), got to 47mph, hit a jump that I didn't see coming (due to the f*cking yellow lenses that suck on overcast days), and proceeded to not land right and tumble. A lot.

The following runs on Burnout I hit up to 56mph. Want to work my way up to 60mph, but scared. I don't think my intermediate skis are made for it?

What are other ways to get faster?

Quoted in case your selfishness ends up hurting someone.

 

[Dirigible]

I enjoy myself far more when I'm going fast. I feel much more stable and in control. 90% of my falls are at slower speeds, usually trying to avoid hitting someone going much slower who's carving across the entire width of the run and with unpredictable direction changes. The only thing that I worry about is hitting a jump that I don't see. This always seems to happen on overcast days when my orange lenses can't show me details (the entire run is more or less solid orange with no contrast). I've been in the middle of a carve and Surprise! I'm now in the air, going 45mph... and flying sideways.

Quoted as it shows your lack of skills and that you need to slow the fuck down.

 

[Nebor]

You need to stop fucking doing shit like that before someone gets seriously injured or maimed or killed because of your irresponsibility. You say you have been skiing four times. You call Burnout steep and it's not. You clearly have little experience. And you're trying for 60 mph.

Put simply: you are scum if you keep that up and I hope horrible things happen to you. Little kids go down the backside at Northstar and you are endangering them. I am going to bookmark this thread and if I hear of an accident that sounds like you are involved I will contact the authorities and work like hell to see you punished.

If you want to go fast, fine. But do it safely and responsibly. Get more skills. Stay in control on public slopes. Join a ski racing league and race on closed courses where you'll only hurt yourself.

Seriously. WTF are you thinking? Ass.

Lighten up Francis. It's skiing. It's on soft, powdery snow. No one gets hurt freakin' skiing.

 

[TecHNooB]

shit just got serious D:

*lawnchair*

 

[skyking]

I've been on the slopes when somebody got killed by an out of control skier. I've seen many people ride a sled down after getting taken out. My cousin got a 30 stitch slice on his leg by somebody skiing beyond control.
I'm not saying this is the case, but the cavalier way it gets talked about makes me a bit suspicious. Been skiing 4 times...........

 

[Soccerman06]

Hes got a point fbb, learn skills first then do stupid stuff.

 

[arrfep]

Lighten up Francis. It's skiing. It's on soft, powdery snow. No one gets hurt freakin' skiing.

Uh....You're joking, right?

 

[Capt Caveman]

Lighten up Francis. It's skiing. It's on soft, powdery snow. No one gets hurt freakin' skiing.

Not sure if serious. Going that fast after only four times skiing, I see the OP seriously injuring himself or somebody that may accidentally get in his way.

 

[gorcorps]

You biffed at 47 and your logic says you need to go faster? You must have hit your head harder than you thought.

 

[Black2na]

You need to stop fucking doing shit like that before someone gets seriously injured or maimed or killed because of your irresponsibility. You say you have been skiing four times. You call Burnout steep and it's not. You clearly have little experience. And you're trying for 60 mph.

Put simply: you are scum if you keep that up and I hope horrible things happen to you. Little kids go down the backside at Northstar and you are endangering them. I am going to bookmark this thread and if I hear of an accident that sounds like you are involved I will contact the authorities and work like hell to see you punished.

If you want to go fast, fine. But do it safely and responsibly. Get more skills. Stay in control on public slopes. Join a ski racing league and race on closed courses where you'll only hurt yourself.

Seriously. WTF are you thinking? Ass.

as much as i totally agree with you i certainly think that could have been worded without making yourself sound of as much of an ass as he seems to ski.

also to OP if you plan on going faster and seem to have an issue with reading the terrain get the proper equipment so you can be in control and know whats comming at all times. had a friend have a radial brake on his tibia this year from the trail catching his ski. biggest thing is ski in control if you have a hard time avoiding the people who use the whole trail means you are beyond control and you need to slow down. are you skiing in parallel yet? can you do it without thinking? if not learn that it is the only real way to ski with good speed and keep in perfect control.

 

[aleckz]

Fuzzy,

I watched a video of that run at Northstar and it seems pretty open, but in reality going that fast on anything but a closed race course is pretty dangerous. Not only for you, but the surrounding riders. I'm not saying going fast isn't fun; however, if you have only been skiing four times, you don't have the proper gear for riding (you need low light lenses for flat days), and you cannot control your skis at low speed then you shouldn't be going at the rate of speed that you are trying to achieve.

Now, if you want to achieve faster speeds you will need a speedo-like suit, a helmet, and some race-type skis. For speed you might want to venture into some of the Volkl skis, AC-30, AC-50. Those skis are very stable at high speeds and meant for high speed carving. Also Atomic makes some race skis that are very popular, however; they do cost a pretty penny.

If you want a real challenge rather than riding steep groomers you should find someone willing to hang out with you and do some extremes. Standing on a 40-55 degree pitch with moguls, trees, chutes, cliffs, and other huckable items is pretty much the most exhilarating experience one can have. I highly recommend it.

If you can't find any extremes in Cali, you can always come out to Crested Butte; I don't mind watching newbies garage sale.

 

[manimal]

Liam neesons wife thought she was safe too.

 

[arrfep]

Liam neesons wife thought she was safe too.

And Sonny Bono, and Michael Kennedy, and Sarah Burke.

And those are just the famous ones that make the news.