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I love SCSI

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do any of you use the iwill side-du3160? i was looking at it, and seemed pretty impressive, at least to me.
i have read some reviews of it, there aren't many, but the ones i did read seemed pretty complimentary, but have any of you used it, and overclocked the fsb, and more specifically the pci divider while using this scsi card?

thanks,

-Mel

 
Mltsao wrote:

"Geek version of "Once you go black you cant go back" - Scary Movie 2"

That is totally true as well 😀
 
SCSI is very nice, it's like having that higher end car.

IDE - Ford Taurus/Chevy Lumina

SCSI - Mercedes E or S class / BMW


Check out my HEAVILY MODDED DELL 4100 in My Rigs
 
While I do not have an all SCSI setup, I do have a SCSI HDD and a Yamaha burner. It's great being able to burn files strictly over the SCSI bus and not have my main IDE drives affected at all. I would boot from my SCSI drive but it is an older Cuda that is only Ultra SCSI.
 

I'm thinking about getting a SCSI CDRW (already have a 29160 in my box for HD support).

The Sanyo has the fastest speed (24/10/40), but I never heard of Sanyo for PC gear ...

The Yamaha has an 8MB buffer ...

The plextor is a pretty standard 12/10/32, has a 2 MB buffer and everyone seems to love Plextor ...

So, what should I get? Is the amount of buffer a big deal? Will a 12X write seem agonizingly slow or does the lower cpu utlization and faster bus help close that gap? Maybe I should go for the Sanyo - they make good DVD players.

I like SCSI too, but the costs are kinda silly. It'll cost me twice a LiteOn IDE and be slower, at least in rated speed.
 
i put in a 16 x yahama scsi burner for a friend since he wanted the fastest out there at time then we compared the speed to my 8x plextor. my plextor held its own against the 16x i still yet to figure this out........


Jen
 
The Advantages of SCSI over IDE/ATA :

- scsi drives tend to always be faster than ata drives both in rpm, seek time, transfer rates.
- scsi drives can be accessed simultaneously on one channel whereas ata drives can only be accessed one per channel
( that is the reason why people used to put an ide cd burner on its own channel )
- less CPU usage
- more devices per channel
- also scsi harddrives tend to last much much longer (though they cost $$$) than their ata counterparts

however... they do get hot!! and can be very loud little puppies!!! and you often will have to part with much much more $$$$$$$$$.


I love scsi.



3x 9 gig 10krpm cheetahs 160scsi
Plextor 40X ultra wide scsi
Plextor 12/4/32 ulta scsi
10x Toshiba DVD drive ultra scsi
Adaptec 29160 scsi card

I am planning to get one more cheetah and run 3 of them in raid 5 mode.
I scred up and bought a 4th generation cheetah drive and then a year later bought two 5th generation cheetah's. they have different number of heads and cylinders so
I think the a raid controller might not like to have different drives.

Brother Raven
 
I guess I can reveal my system stats 🙂

Adaptec 29160
Quantum 18.x GB Atlas 10K III 10000rpm U160
Plextor 32x CD-ROM
Plextor 10x/4x/32x CD-RW
 
i put in a 16 x yahama scsi burner for a friend since he wanted the fastest out there at time then we compared the speed to my 8x plextor. my plextor held its own against the 16x i still yet to figure this out........


Jen

check the SCSI card settings Many SCSI burners need you to disable wide negotiation, lower throughput et al to get the best performance.
 
I love SCSI too, but I hope these aren't gaming machines cause here is a hint for you SCSI doesn't to jack all for gaming systems.
 


<< Once you go SCSI you never go back. >>

I went SCSI and I went back. I had two 18GB IBM 36LZX drives on a Mylex AcceleRAID 150 in RAID0 with a second 36GB IDE back-up drive mirroring that every 12 hours. My only problem with SCSI is price... the datasets that I'm working with were getting bigger and bigger and 36GB wasn't going to cut it. In fact I looked ahead and was looking at 80-90GB. I looked at SCSI and decided that it was getting too rich for my blood. I bought a 100GB 7200rpm ATA100 Western Digital 1000BB for $125 (from Sam's Club after $100 MIR), bought another 60GB IDE drive to combine with the 36GB to create a backup mirror, and have been very happy with the new setup.

SCSI is superior, this I do not deny, but there's was a point where I was spending a lot of money to upgrade. $125 for the WD IDE drive is a lot less than my original plan of keeping my 2 18GB SCSI drives and adding 4 more $150 IBM 36LZX 18GB drives and switching to RAID5. The performance loss of the new setup is barely noticeable on the application that I'm using - in fact rolling the money saved into one of these new Xeon (Prestonia) processors will result in a much higher gain in the long run. (It's compute intensive with only burst reads and writes of 800MB+ every several hours).

I've been consistently impressed with SCSI over the years, but I just wish the drive didn't have to be 400% more size-for-size (for the larger drives) than IDE.
 
Yep, no bones about it. SCSI costs significantly more, for less space. For example, I routinely spend $180 for 18 gig 10K III's. I could get much more capacity with an IDE drive, but it would bottleneck any of my dual machines ... they're all SCSI and I'm not about to drag it down with a single IDE device 😀

It all depends on your needs. If storage is all you need, IDE is a more cost-effective solution. But, if you need both storage and the ability to regularly manipulate the data ... particularly with demanding applications in the audio/video areas ... SCSI is a much better choice. The extra money you spend will save you a countless amount of hours overall manipulating that data.

The LZX certainly aren't the fastest SCSI drives... You would have been better off throwing a pair of 10K II/III on there. 😀

Wait, wait ... you're complaining about the cost of SCSI and contemplating Prestonia's? 😀
 
i have to say that scsi, when you have the money, is a wonderful thing to have. its quite noticably faster, and i have run backups on a scsi tape drive, while burning a cd on a scsi burner, while playing a game, and there was no different between that and playing the game while doing nothing. its so hard to sit down at an ide machine, and use the hard drive, and watch everything slow down! scsi rules. 😀
 
My cd-burner is a plextor, sorry forgot to mention it.

Also the two things you can buy these days that DON'T lose their price as badly as most computer components is SCSI and MONITORS.
It is the reason why I will not settle for the latest cpu or the next gen motherboard if it means I get a better monitor or another scsi drive.

Brother Raven
 
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