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LegendKiller

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The PBOC just intervened to prop up the value of their currency, literally last week. Their real effective exchange rate has increased by about 30% over the last 4 years. Furthermore, I didn't pinpoint where it would end up, I just said it would fall. I'm very comfortable with that.



Of course I wouldn't be, but Trump's ignorant ranting on the subject isn't helping. He just sounds stupid when he does things like this.



Nope, just letting you know that the 'China's currency is being held too low' thing is likely inaccurate.


Yeah, that's it.
You mean they intervened to depreciate their currency.
 

LegendKiller

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After they intervened twice to the downside and then the market took that as further evidence they would do it again. Gotta love how a fuck face like you touts they appreciated the currency without mentioning that they depreciated it over 2.5% and then provided a soft floor of .1% to stop speculation of a 3rd depreciation immenently.


Are you wearing red today? Drink your tea out of a chairman Mao cup?
 

fskimospy

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After they intervened twice to the downside and then the market took that as further evidence they would do it again. Gotta love how a fuck face like you touts they appreciated the currency without mentioning that they depreciated it over 2.5% and then provided a soft floor of .1% to stop speculation of a 3rd depreciation immenently.

Are you wearing red today? Drink your tea out of a chairman Mao cup?

They 'depreciated' it by not forcibly keeping it at a higher rate. Gotta love how when challenged on something you immediately start the raging alpha bullshit again.

If you'd like to read more, here you go:

http://www.nasdaq.com/article/is-the-chinese-yuan-undervalued-or-overvalued-cm509678
 

CitizenKain

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Funny how you care more about illegals and communist China than you do about your own countrymen.

Its funny how realistic responses to a problem involves more then just making mouth noises. Trump just says what people want to hear, if its simple feel good rhetoric, the more the better. For a simpleton like yourself, its perfect.
 

LegendKiller

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Its funny how realistic responses to a problem involves more then just making mouth noises. Trump just says what people want to hear, if its simple feel good rhetoric, the more the better. For a simpleton like yourself, its perfect.
And what is your realistic response?
 

Vic

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Its funny how realistic responses to a problem involves more then just making mouth noises. Trump just says what people want to hear, if its simple feel good rhetoric, the more the better. For a simpleton like yourself, its perfect.

Yep. There are liars, damned liars, politicians, and then there's Trump.
 

Vic

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And what is your realistic response?
The only realistic solution to the immigration issue is a complete overhaul of our immigration policy along with amnesty and a naturalization path for illegals currently residing here.
Anything else is about as 'realistic' as claiming we can still win the war on drugs.

edit: I'm sure this isn't what you want to hear, so I'll leave you with your savior Trump and his crazed 'if I'm elected dictator' lies.
 
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LegendKiller

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The only realistic solution to the immigration issue is a complete overhaul of our immigration policy along with amnesty and a naturalization path for illegals currently residing here.
Anything else is about as 'realistic' as claiming we can still win the war on drugs.

edit: I'm sure this isn't what you want to hear, so I'll leave you with your savior Trump and his crazed 'if I'm elected dictator' lies.
And how do you stop the flood? How do you absorb the social and economic impact? How do you take in so many with the lower end job market already crushed and young black unemployment remaining high?
 

werepossum

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The only realistic solution to the immigration issue is a complete overhaul of our immigration policy along with amnesty and a naturalization path for illegals currently residing here.
Anything else is about as 'realistic' as claiming we can still win the war on drugs.

edit: I'm sure this isn't what you want to hear, so I'll leave you with your savior Trump and his crazed 'if I'm elected dictator' lies.
By that logic the only realistic solution to shoplifting is the removal of anti-theft systems and cash registers.
 

LegendKiller

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By that logic the only realistic solution to shoplifting is the removal of anti-theft systems and cash registers.
And doors, and security people. Fire all workers and let the illegals take over. After all, nobody will work retail jobs either.

After long enough it won't matter what jobs americans don't want, it'll only matter how much (which is also bs, but anyway) the government can throw at them to not riot since they can't work and you've taken away their pride.

Liberals are quite sad in their myopia in this. Just as much as republicans are in their never ending wealth accumulation. You'd almost think that they were working together to fuck the common American via a two pronged approach. Fire them all, replace with cheap labor and then let them think you are doing them a favor by giving them money, all the while you're just a serf.

Well, only fucking tools like eskimospy almost think that. The rest of us see the truth.
 

MongGrel

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And doors, and security people. Fire all workers and let the illegals take over. After all, nobody will work retail jobs either.

After long enough it won't matter what jobs americans don't want, it'll only matter how much (which is also bs, but anyway) the government can throw at them to not riot since they can't work and you've taken away their pride.

Liberals are quite sad in their myopia in this. Just as much as republicans are in their never ending wealth accumulation. You'd almost think that they were working together to fuck the common American via a two pronged approach. Fire them all, replace with cheap labor and then let them think you are doing them a favor by giving them money, all the while you're just a serf.

Well, only fucking tools like eskimospy almost think that. The rest of us see the truth.

The rest of who?

Keep your opinions based on where they originate.
 

Meghan54

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Its funny how realistic responses to a problem involves more then just making mouth noises. Trump just says what people want to hear, if its simple feel good rhetoric, the more the better. For a simpleton like yourself, its perfect.


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Anchor babies. Gotta love them.

Looks like we need a Constitutional Amendment.

"Current U.S. federal law prevents anyone under the age of 21 from being able to petition for their non-citizen parent to be lawfully admitted into the United States for permanent residence. So at best, the child's family would need to wait for 21 years before being able to use their child's US citizenship to modify their immigration status"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anchor_baby
 

Vic

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And how do you stop the flood? How do you absorb the social and economic impact? How do you take in so many with the lower end job market already crushed and young black unemployment remaining high?
Not with Trump's trillion dollar unconstitutional immigration 'plan.'
 

Vic

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By that logic the only realistic solution to shoplifting is the removal of anti-theft systems and cash registers.
Just the kind of black and white thinking that I've come to expect from political discussions on the Internet.
A better analogy would be a store with a monopoly on a highly desirable product on their shelves that refused to meet demand and then acted surprised when it got shoplifted.
 

LegendKiller

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Not with Trump's trillion dollar unconstitutional immigration 'plan.'

As I have said, it is thought by many to not be unconstitutional.

BTW, how much does all of that welfare for unemployed young black americans (and others), as well as medical costs for illegals, other welfare, lost jobs...etc. cost over a 20 year period?

Yeah, that's right, the "trillion dollar" cost is over 20 years and doesn't estimate the fiscal and social impact on the other side, like keeping them here and making them legal.

Nice job retard.
 

LegendKiller

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They 'depreciated' it by not forcibly keeping it at a higher rate. Gotta love how when challenged on something you immediately start the raging alpha bullshit again.

If you'd like to read more, here you go:

http://www.nasdaq.com/article/is-the-chinese-yuan-undervalued-or-overvalued-cm509678

Again, temporal appreciations or depreciations, especially in a basketed/pegged currency are just that, temporal. Furthermore, that analysis only considers a few points, not a complete analysis. Finally, as I said above, the damage has been done over the past 15 years. Now we need to make sure it doesn't happen again.
 

CitizenKain

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And doors, and security people. Fire all workers and let the illegals take over. After all, nobody will work retail jobs either.

After long enough it won't matter what jobs americans don't want, it'll only matter how much (which is also bs, but anyway) the government can throw at them to not riot since they can't work and you've taken away their pride.

Liberals are quite sad in their myopia in this. Just as much as republicans are in their never ending wealth accumulation. You'd almost think that they were working together to fuck the common American via a two pronged approach. Fire them all, replace with cheap labor and then let them think you are doing them a favor by giving them money, all the while you're just a serf.

Well, only fucking tools like eskimospy almost think that. The rest of us see the truth.

Its funny how reasoned discourse is just too much for you, I guess being a loud mouthed ass is required to be a Trump groupie.
 

LegendKiller

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Its funny how reasoned discourse is just too much for you, I guess being a loud mouthed ass is required to be a Trump groupie.

No, reasonable discourse is too much for people who just say "well, fuck it, let them in, regardless". Then when it comes to stopping the inflow you've got no answers. No politician you know will do anything to stop it, at least trump *says* he will. Whether he can, is another issue. But you guys just dismiss any solution.

Just "trump is a racist evil guy".
 

Vic

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As I have said, it is thought by many to not be unconstitutional.

BTW, how much does all of that welfare for unemployed young black americans (and others), as well as medical costs for illegals, other welfare, lost jobs...etc. cost over a 20 year period?

Yeah, that's right, the "trillion dollar" cost is over 20 years and doesn't estimate the fiscal and social impact on the other side, like keeping them here and making them legal.

Nice job retard.
Actually, those numbers are about a wash over 20 years if you look into them. So your argument is basically a false dilemma.
I'm sure there's a 3rd way, where we welcome workers into our economy and stimulate the investment needed to provide them with opportunity, but you don't seem interested in that.
 

brycejones

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Actually, those numbers are about a wash over 20 years if you look into them. So your argument is basically a false dilemma.
I'm sure there's a 3rd way, where we welcome workers into our economy and stimulate the investment needed to provide them with opportunity, but you don't seem interested in that.

LK seems to be willing to let the US become Japan or Italy, an aging population with a stagnant economy.
 

brycejones

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As I have said, it is thought by many to not be unconstitutional.

Nice job retard.

Many people still think supply side economics works. Probably a pretty good overlap between those two populations. Doesn't say much about their ability to utilize data and arrive at logical conclusions.

Very classy.