I Live in Wisconsin. Will My Taxes Go Down?

[TalonStrike]

Oh look, it's the college student being fed pro-union propoganda.

Actually, yes, if you actually make money then your tax obligation will go down. The only other way is for you to pay more tax. Hail Patriot Walker, defeat the liberal scum bottom feeders.

WTF? pro-union? I'm not pro-union at all. So my taxes will go down, huh? sweet.

 

[Jhhnn]

Oh look, it's the college student being fed pro-union propoganda.

Actually, yes, if you actually make money then your tax obligation will go down. The only other way is for you to pay more tax. Hail Patriot Walker, defeat the liberal scum bottom feeders.

Not likely. The reason that Wisconsin Repubs needed to quash public unions was to pay for tax breaks for businessmen. They claim it'll create jobs- it'll definitely create campaign contributions and behind the scenes deals for repub lawmakers.

Welcome to the republican party! You can move to a state that isn't in trouble. Texas would be happy to have you work in their state. That's the beauty of the republic, don't like it? Move.

Pssst... Texas is facing a $21B hole in their budget, so they'll need to cut spending, the Republican way, in order to make up for it. Maybe they'll do like Colorado Springs, our crazed right wing haven of anti-tax religious zealots & govt retirees to the south- turn off the streetlights, lay off the cops, maybe go back to dirt roads-

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_14303473

Maybe the govt will close Ft Carson & all the rest of the federal spending centers there so that the place can just shrivel up & die- it's clearly what they want. Or maybe the Rapture will save 'em...

 

[Nebor]

Not likely. The reason that Wisconsin Repubs needed to quash public unions was to pay for tax breaks for businessmen. They claim it'll create jobs- it'll definitely create campaign contributions and behind the scenes deals for repub lawmakers.



Pssst... Texas is facing a $21B hole in their budget, so they'll need to cut spending, the Republican way, in order to make up for it. Maybe they'll do like Colorado Springs, our crazed right wing haven of anti-tax religious zealots & govt retirees to the south- turn off the streetlights, lay off the cops, maybe go back to dirt roads-

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_14303473

Maybe the govt will close Ft Carson & all the rest of the federal spending centers there so that the place can just shrivel up & die- it's clearly what they want. Or maybe the Rapture will save 'em...

That story is a year old, and Fort Carson is still the second most requested posting in the US Army.

 

[Zargon]

Oh look, it's the college student being fed pro-union propoganda.

Actually, yes, if you actually make money then your tax obligation will go down. The only other way is for you to pay more tax. Hail Patriot Walker, defeat the liberal scum bottom feeders.

walker is a POS, not suprised you in here defending him

he bankrupted milwaukee county first,then the badgers were dumb enough to elect him to governor and hes dicking the whole state.

he has just about personally dicked every state worker in WI at this point.

 

[Fear No Evil]

walker is a POS, not suprised you in here defending him

he bankrupted milwaukee county first,then the badgers were dumb enough to elect him to governor and hes dicking the whole state.

he has just about personally dicked every state worker in WI at this point.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: Go Walker Go.

 

[SlowSpyder]

walker is a POS, not suprised you in here defending him

he bankrupted milwaukee county first,then the badgers were dumb enough to elect him to governor and hes dicking the whole state.

he has just about personally dicked every state worker in WI at this point.

I don't know enought about Walker's background to say if he's done good or bad, but I don't have a problem with what he's doing now. I have a friend who is a probation officer, she is in the "recall Walker" crowd. Why? Because she may lose $200/month in pay. I don't blame her for being unhappy, but I think it's funny how this translates into a recall movement. Just because she is a state employee does not mean these types of things don't happen.

Meanwhile in the private sector, I got no raise and a 50% the normal raise in consecutive years and my wife had to take two 10% pay cuts. But state workers seem to feel they should be immune to such measures. If bringing goverment jobs in line with the private sector is what he is doing, and that can elimiate the state's operating deficit by doing so, I guess I don't see the problem.

 

[zsdersw]

Walker made one big mistake, IMO: he didn't include police & firefighter unions in his collective bargaining proposal.

With two-thirds of city/municipal budgets tied up by those two services alone, Walker could've saved a lot more money... but he didn't, supposedly because of some non-existent threat to "public safety".

 

[Macamus Prime]

Nope; this just means that private business owners will make more money, since they are no longer being "abused" by the unions.

 

[Zargon]

Walker made one big mistake, IMO: he didn't include police & firefighter unions in his collective bargaining proposal.

With two-thirds of city/municipal budgets tied up by those two services alone, Walker could've saved a lot more money... but he didn't, supposedly because of some non-existent threat to "public safety".

its surely not because those unions backed his election campaign, or so I've heard.

I don't know enought about Walker's background to say if he's done good or bad, but I don't have a problem with what he's doing now. I have a friend who is a probation officer, she is in the "recall Walker" crowd. Why? Because she may lose $200/month in pay. I don't blame her for being unhappy, but I think it's funny how this translates into a recall movement. Just because she is a state employee does not mean these types of things don't happen.

Meanwhile in the private sector, I got no raise and a 50% the normal raise in consecutive years and my wife had to take two 10% pay cuts. But state workers seem to feel they should be immune to such measures. If bringing goverment jobs in line with the private sector is what he is doing, and that can elimiate the state's operating deficit by doing so, I guess I don't see the problem.

from what I understand, WI pays below the average wage for similar private sector employees

I support the massive union busting as a whole, but its the fact that he created a budget problem via wastefull spending(again, this is what i read, I could be misinformed) and is now making the state workers pay for it

from what i understand he took over milwaukee county with a surplus and left them in the whole big time doing stupid crap with their money.

 

[WHAMPOM]

I don't know enought about Walker's background to say if he's done good or bad, but I don't have a problem with what he's doing now. I have a friend who is a probation officer, she is in the "recall Walker" crowd. Why? Because she may lose $200/month in pay. I don't blame her for being unhappy, but I think it's funny how this translates into a recall movement. Just because she is a state employee does not mean these types of things don't happen.

Meanwhile in the private sector, I got no raise and a 50% the normal raise in consecutive years and my wife had to take two 10% pay cuts. But state workers seem to feel they should be immune to such measures. If bringing goverment jobs in line with the private sector is what he is doing, and that can elimiate the state's operating deficit by doing so, I guess I don't see the problem.

For Walker to bring the payroll of Wis.state jobs inline with private would mean giving them a raise. They are 5% below private with all benefits included.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

Nope; this just means that private business owners will make more money, since they are no longer being "abused" by the unions.

So you're claiming that Walker eliminated collective bargaining for private sector unions?

 

[D-Man]

During the hullabaloo in Wisc you had quite a few of your legislators slip in to IL. If they had any contact with our IL politicians your taxes will do nothing but go up way up.
SORRY for the bad news

 

[Jhhnn]

That story is a year old, and Fort Carson is still the second most requested posting in the US Army.

It's still what's happening today, and the fact that Ft Carson is a highly sought after posting just tells us what shitholes many garrison towns really are. Colorado Springs isn't the attraction, at all, but rather the mountains to the west & the night life of the big city to the north, Denver.

 

[WisMan]

he bankrupted milwaukee county first,then the badgers were dumb enough to elect him to governor and hes dicking the whole state.

Its very obvious that you are not from Wisconsin if you believe that Walker is even a small part of the reason Milwaukee county is the financial shithole that it is.

 

[Nebor]

It's still what's happening today, and the fact that Ft Carson is a highly sought after posting just tells us what shitholes many garrison towns really are. Colorado Springs isn't the attraction, at all, but rather the mountains to the west & the night life of the big city to the north, Denver.

Yeah, most Army garrison towns are total shitholes, with only a few exceptions (Ft Carson, Fort Lewis, Schofield Barracks.)

I've been to Colorado Springs numerous times and always thought it was a great city. IIRC a few years back it was one of the fastest growing cities in the country. The Air Force Academy is there too. Everyone I know loves it at Carson, and they don't go to Denver every weekend.

Conversely, the Watertown, New York area where Fort Drum is based has hugely high taxes, and is universally one of the most despised postings in the Army. I can only conclude that low taxes and minimal to non-existent public services are seen as optimal conditions for Army personnel.