I lack faith that I can move my life forward

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SlitheryDee

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You have no legitimate reason to believe so. None.

I missed that part. OP needs to examine this idea closely. Is it really true, or is this just something he keeps telling himself because that relieves him of the responsibility to do things that make him uncomfortable? One piece of advice I believe is that you generally don't advance anything in life from inside your comfort zone. I don't follow that advice often enough myself, but I do believe it.
 

Naer

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I used to find getting numbers fun, but I barely even call them so what's the point?
 

zCypher

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There are plenty of places that will employ just about anybody that has a pulse, so I would tend to disagree with the "unemployable" bit. Maybe places you would prefer to work for aren't hiring you, but that doesn't make you unemployable. You always have to start somewhere, and then build off that. Once you start somewhere it's a lot easier to see a potential path of where to go next.
 

Naer

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Tfw still look in the mirror all the time still dissatisfied with my looks and I'm almost 30
 

disappoint

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Yes, I can. It applies to him.

Even if you're right, you can not answer these questions for him any more than you could do his schoolwork for him. Sure you might be capable of doing it (and even that is debatable, for example do you know everything about him?) but he won't get anything out of it if he doesn't explore for himself his own thought process.
 

SlitheryDee

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You can't answer that question for him. The answer you gave applies to you. It may or may not apply to him. This is a question he has to answer for himself.

I can deduce that it's the case by studying his responses though. His proposed attempts to be "more liked" smack of avoidance of risk and discomfort. His explanations for why he is unemployable are vague, dismissive, and do not withstand scrutiny. He obviously doesn't want to delve very deeply into that subject because it will reveal something that he doesn't want to acknowledge. Getting a job means being in a strange place around strange people while being constantly under pressure to perform tasks at a certain level of proficiency. That can seem terrifying for an introverted, socially awkward, borderline autistic like our OP.
 

Mai72

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I have a cousin who is in his 50s and he has lived in his bedroom fo life. He has never had a job in his life. I had never met the guy. When I went to his house he ran up stairs. The guy is a recluse. His mom and dad are both in their early 90s. It's odd because his sister works at Children's Hospital as a technician, and his brother owns a motel and is a pharmacist.

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BurnItDwn

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Naer, depression is a hell of a battle. Keep up the good fight, be sound of mind, and you are in for a rough ride filled with disappointment and fear and anxietry. Still, there will be good joy filled moments. It is worth it to keep trying, even when things look dark and grim.

Atheism is not a choice. You dont choose what you believe. Something either seems plausible/true, or something is not believable. Now, maybe you believe different than you did in school, or maybe you were a troll as a teenager and now you feel dumb for acting like a dick earlier, but you cant undo that. On the other hand, you can learn from your past, and approach things differently going forwards. In any case, I think lots of people beats themselves up about all the dumb things they have ever done. Its part of self improvement as long as you dont take it too far.
 

nakedfrog

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Even if you're right, you can not answer these questions for him any more than you could do his schoolwork for him. Sure you might be capable of doing it (and even that is debatable, for example do you know everything about him?) but he won't get anything out of it if he doesn't explore for himself his own thought process.
Did you read this post?
I'll help, even, so you don't have to bother clicking it. Someone asked why he says he's unemployable, and here's his answer.
Why are you unemployable?
Records of illness. Gap since last job too large
 

disappoint

Lifer
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Naer, depression is a hell of a battle. Keep up the good fight, be sound of mind, and you are in for a rough ride filled with disappointment and fear and anxietry. Still, there will be good joy filled moments. It is worth it to keep trying, even when things look dark and grim.

Atheism is not a choice. You dont choose what you believe. Something either seems plausible/true, or something is not believable. Now, maybe you believe different than you did in school, or maybe you were a troll as a teenager and now you feel dumb for acting like a dick earlier, but you cant undo that. On the other hand, you can learn from your past, and approach things differently going forwards. In any case, I think lots of people beats themselves up about all the dumb things they have ever done. Its part of self improvement as long as you dont take it too far.

I could argue that atheism and theism are actually choices people made. They may not remember how, when or why they made them but they did.

Consider the theist who goes to church religiously and allows only 1 opinion (the opinion of the preacher) to influence him. Never seeking the other side of the argument or rejecting it outright because the preacher told him to, and he chose to do that.

Consider the atheist who was taught theistic lessons as a child but then seeks more information on the subject and discovers all of the logical fallacies used to convince him of sometimes delusional, irrational or nonsensical beliefs. He chose to improve his critical thinking skills by seeking knowledge that he could have easily chose to ignore, as many other people do.
 
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BurnItDwn

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I could argue that atheism and theism are actually choices people made. They may not remember how, when or why they made them but they did.

Consider the theist who goes to church religiously and allows only 1 opinion (the opinion of the preacher) to influence him. Never seeking the other side of the argument or rejecting it outright because the preacher told him to, and he chose to do that.

Consider the atheist who was taught theistic lessons as a child but then seeks more information on the subject and discovers all of the logical fallacies used to convince him of sometimes delusional, irrational or nonsensical beliefs. He chose to improve his critical thinking skills by seeking knowledge that he could have easily chose to ignore, as many other people do.

When I was a kid, I didn't chose to become an atheist. I simply observed reality.

You could argue that choosing to ignore reality and intentionally being intellectually ignorant is the same as choosing theism. But, I think the entire crux of the thing is that its not a decision or a choice. You dont have control over what you believe other than you can build walls to fortify what you already believe.
 

nakedfrog

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When I was a kid, I didn't chose to become an atheist. I simply observed reality.

You could argue that choosing to ignore reality and intentionally being intellectually ignorant is the same as choosing theism. But, I think the entire crux of the thing is that its not a decision or a choice. You dont have control over what you believe other than you can build walls to fortify what you already believe.
I would suggest that some people do choose, and others do not.
 

Platypus

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The problem with all these terrible shitpost/troll threads is that you don't even know what is a real cry for help anymore. Thus, any real advice I have to give you is just better off not being posted.
 

Red Squirrel

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Find a hobby, something you like to do. It will make you feel better about yourself when you accomplish something in whatever that hobby is. Depending on the nature of the hobby it might even be something you can monetise.
 

Naer

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Find a hobby, something you like to do. It will make you feel better about yourself when you accomplish something in whatever that hobby is. Depending on the nature of the hobby it might even be something you can monetise.

My occupation is interneter. I don't see this changing
 

Naer

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feel connected with people on a transient level, even tho there's space between us, perhaps that's enough?
 
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