i know this topic is old..

[benchan78]

can u guys pls help me. i dont know i should buy duron or celeronII. my budget is about 300-350 cdn for mb/cpu. the thing i dont understand is why are socket A mb so expensive?? since duron can't be o/c (any duron owner able to o/c?), i think the performance of cII and duron at same price range is about equal. cII 566@850=duron at 650?? what u guys think?

 

[ForeverSilky]

If you already have a BX board why not get a 850c2? Seems pretty good to me; should hold you over pretty nicely for a while.

 

[HannibalX]

Well, the equivilantly clocked Durons flat out beat the Celerons. However most vendos don't have Durons in stock yet and there is only one mobo currently.

Just a few points to consider.

 

[Ulysses]

The Duron/Tbird mobos like the ASUS A7V are so expensive because they are in such short supply but in high demand (because the chips are new and have gotten a lot of good press). The same is true of the new 815 boards like the ASUS CUSL2. At least the CUSL2 has a lot of fancy features, while some of the Duron/Tbird boards look pretty plain Jane to me.

BTW, I agree with your equation.

 

[RSI]

Justin what comes of my Duron :Q

 

[Scifione]

I compiled this for another tread, but I think you will find it useful. It was for a budget system for a non-overclocker.

Here goes a price list! I worked hard on it so I hope it helps!
I have order form Buy.com but have not YET(maybe soon) ordered for the other two.
Big thing like cases and monitors usually ship by them selves so it does not matter were you buy them. You will not save on shipping much on the cases and monitor, but ordering other things together helps a lot.

Case:
Here is were you can buy a case and CONFIGURE it!!!!!! These are just some examples.
In-Win S500 with AMD approved 250Watt Power Supple $61
Have a look at In-Win cases here! http://www.in-win.com I like In-Win cases.
Fong Kai FK-603 with AMD approved 250Watt Power Supple $69
SB860B "Hydraulic" black with AMD approved 250Watt Power Supple $72
V-Tech Model Leopard 738F color case with AMD approved 250Watt PS $57-60
http://www.directron.com/cases---case-fans-atx-cases.html

Motherboard:
Biostar M7VKB KT133
http://www.tcwo.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_prod.html?p_prodid=644&sid=1wHCjE017Cc@7h5

CPU:
Duron 600Mhz OEM $87
Duron 650Mhz OEM $109
Duron 700Mhz OEM $151
http://www.tcwo.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_main.html?catid=180&sid=1wHCjE017Cc@7h5
Athlon Socket-A 700Mhz OEM $166
Athlon Socket-A 750Mhz OEM $199
http://www.tcwo.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_main.html?catid=183&sid=1wHCjE017Cc@7h5

CPU cooling fan:
"Golden Orb" $13
http://www.tcwo.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_prod.html?p_prodid=413&sid=1wHCjE017Cc@7h5

Memory:
PNY 128MB PC133 SDRAM $159.95
http://www.us.buy.com/comp/product.asp?Sku=10250650
Crucial 64MB PC133 SDRAM $84.95
http://www.us.buy.com/comp/product.asp?sku=10229020

Video Card:
Stealth III S540 32MB AGP $62
Viper2 Z200 32MBw/TV DVD-h $136
http://www.tcwo.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_main.html?catid=39&sid=1wHCjE017Cc@7h5
Matrox Millennium G400 32MB $119
http://www.tcwo.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_main.html?catid=118&sid=1wHCjE017Cc@7h5
Voodoo3 3000 AGP $96
http://www.tcwo.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_main.html?catid=117&sid=1wHCjE017Cc@7h5

Sound Card:
Sound Blaster Live! Value OEM $49
http://www.tcwo.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_prod.html?p_prodid=196&sid=1wHCjE017Cc@7h5

Monitor
17" CTX VL700SL $197.95
http://www.us.buy.com/comp/product.asp?sku=10152588
17" CTX VL700S $199.95
<a target=new href="http://www.us.buy.com/comp/product.asp?sku=10021622[L]
17&quot; KDS VS-8I $212.95
[L]http://www.us.buy.com/comp/product.asp?sku=10242466">http://www.us.buy.com/comp/product.asp?sku=10021622[L]
17&quot; KDS VS-8I $212.95
[L]http://www.us.buy.com/comp/product.asp?sku=10242466</a>
17&quot; KDS $178.95
http://www.us.buy.com/comp/product.asp?sku=10244649
19&quot; CTX VL950SL-1
http://www.us.buy.com/comp/product.asp?sku=10241865
19&quot; KDS VS-19SN $299.99
http://www.us.buy.com/comp/product.asp?sku=10021831
19&quot; KDS VS-195E $296.95
http://www.us.buy.com/comp/product.asp?sku=10221195
19&quot; KDS VS-190 $277.95
http://www.us.buy.com/comp/product.asp?sku=10244650

Speakers:
Altec Lancing ACS54 $53.95
http://www.us.buy.com/comp/product.asp?sku=10215528
Creative Labs PCWorks 4point $58.95
http://www.us.buy.com/comp/product.asp?sku=10005730

Floppy:
Mistumi $12
http://www.tcwo.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_prod.html?p_prodid=71&amp;sid=1wHCjE017Cc@7h5
Teac white $14.59
http://www.us.buy.com/comp/product.asp?sku=10028624
Teac gray $15.94
http://www.us.buy.com/comp/product.asp?sku=10028658

DVD-ROM
Toshiba 12x DVD $119.95
http://www.us.buy.com/comp/product.asp?sku=10250639
Afreey 10x DVD $109
http://www.tcwo.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_prod.html?p_prodid=438&amp;sid=1wHCjE017Cc@7h5
Samsung 12X DVD $112
http://www.tcwo.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_prod.html?p_prodid=568&amp;sid=1wHCjE017Cc@7h5

CD-ROM (Alternative to DVD if you don't use DVD):
CD-ROM $38-$49

http://www.tcwo.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_main.html?catid=93&amp;sid=1wHCjE017Cc@7h5
Teac 40x beige $45.31
http://www.us.buy.com/comp/product.asp?sku=10233806
Teac 40x black $50.62
http://www.us.buy.com/comp/product.asp?sku=10233764

CD-RW (Great if you as an alternative to DVD or as an addition to DVD):
Creative Labs CD-RW 32x8x4x $176.95
http://www.us.buy.com/comp/product.asp?sku=10226435
Plextor CD-RW 32x8x4x $184.95
http://www.us.buy.com/comp/product.asp?sku=10229213

Hard Drive:
UATA100 is backwards compatible!
IBM Deskstar 75GXP UATA100 15GB $108.95
http://www.us.buy.com/comp/product.asp?sku=10229213
IBM Deskstar 75GXP UATA100 30GB $181.95
http://www.us.buy.com/comp/product.asp?sku=10245434
Maxtor Diamondmax Plus UATA66 15GB Retail $119.95
http://www.us.buy.com/comp/product.asp?sku=10240445
Maxtor Diamondmax Plus UATA66 30GB Retail $167.95
http://www.us.buy.com/comp/product.asp?sku=10240446
Quantum Fireball Plus LM UATA66 15GB $129.99
http://www.us.buy.com/comp/product.asp?sku=10243351
Quantum Fireball Plus LM UATA66 30GB $179.95
http://www.us.buy.com/comp/product.asp?sku=10243355

Zip drive:
NEC OEM Iomega-licensed 100MB ATAPI internal Zip drive.
http://www.tcwo.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_prod.html?p_prodid=306&amp;sid=1wHCjE017Cc@7h5

NIC (Network card or Lan Card):
Linksys 10/100BTX $14.93
http://www.us.buy.com/comp/product.asp?sku=10017160

Modem (If you can't get faster than 56K ex. DSL, Cable, etc.):
V.90 PCI Modem (Lucent Chipset) $17
http://www.tcwo.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_prod.html?p_prodid=84&amp;sid=1wHCjE017CjL1DM
Driver Up Dates for Win Modems with Lucent Chipsets!
Manufacturer List http://www.k56flex.com/flexupgrade.html
Generic Lucent Driver http://www.lucent.com/micro/K56flex/driver2.html
Upgrading my modem with Lucent chipset using Lucent's generic driver helped me with speed and stability!
Cnet External v.90 Modem $52.94
http://www.us.buy.com/comp/product.asp?sku=10020140

 

[benchan78]

thanks a lot. i'm not using a bx board right now. believe it or not i have a HX. hehehe. oh well.. i'm still undecided. maybe i'll wait till more ppl own duron so i get more feedback about it. plus i hope the socket A MB price will come down some. maybe i should just spend a little bit more for a PIII. i see there's 100mhz and 133mhz version of PIII. is the 100mhz version better for o/c?

 

[Mday]

i was thinking that 300 to 350 cdn was not enough for mobo+cpu. i don't think 300 to 350 US is enough

 

[Kill_Phil]

i paid 180 cdn for my bx mobo anyway. but i think some can be had for around 140 - 150 cdn depending on what mobo and where u buy it. maby even cheaper if you buy it locally. a good computer store in canada is http://www.gbcomp.com since his shipping is only 5 bucks. and he is a super nice guy too =) and last i checked he was selling a 566 for 180 cdn

but u may get that for cheaper if u look around, although ive found his prices to be pretty much the cheapest around (he says he will beat other online store's prices if they charge less with shipping + taxes
oh, thats another plus, he dosent charge tax on his parts if you live outside of quebec i belive

 

[benchan78]

celeronII would be about 160 for cpu and 170 for mb?

while duron is 210 for mb and 160 for cpu.

a pIII is like 170 for mb and 270 for a 550E? sounds like a pretty good buy. since i'm getting a whole new system, 100 dollars isn't a big difference especially coz PIII kick duron's ass

 

[benchan78]

no tax??? wow...

 

[mrbios]

Well, if you are counting $300-350 canadian before tax, you can get a Gigabyte GA-7ZM Socket A board and a Duron 650MHz OEM for $168 dollars from www.ncix.com. I have bought stuff from them before and they are a good, reliable place to order from.