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I know MS Vista is still in Beta but im curious....

I donno. It gives you a chance to give Microsoft a extra 100-300 dollars?

It's going to sport a new and refined GUI and optional ability (if you have the vid card for it) to do 3d-accelerated window compositing. It'll have Windows XP's SP2 security measures by default probably, saving you the hassle of having to do updates. Subsystems will be updated and if you get the higher levels of the 7 versions of vista it gives you a 'gamer tweaking' utility for some silly reason.
 
Well it would probably be worth it to buy it if your a gamer and your building a new machine. Especially if you want to make the full transition to 64bit. But I don't see much point if you already have a perfectly good working OS.

Win2k is getting a bit dated now and soon games will start dropping support for it completely so it probably would be worth it to wait till vista comes out and update to it when you upgrade your pc or whatever.
 
Originally posted by: SuperStrokey
arnt the video drivers for 64 bit still super crappy?


In windows? sure. for now.

When Vista gets out I am sure there will be a time were good drivers will be hard to find. Just have to be carefull what sort of hardware you buy. But after 6-8 months of it being out I bet most of the driver bugs will be gone.
 
Originally posted by: drag
Originally posted by: SuperStrokey
arnt the video drivers for 64 bit still super crappy?


In windows? sure. for now.

When Vista gets out I am sure there will be a time were good drivers will be hard to find. Just have to be carefull what sort of hardware you buy. But after 6-8 months of it being out I bet most of the driver bugs will be gone.


Not anymore. I've been running XP x64 Edition for about 4 months now with 0 problems video wise. ATI and nVidia both have excellent 64 bit driver support for Windows... however I do not know how their Vista drivers are... but that is in beta so it's no surprise if they are crappy. If you are running integrated video then you may get problems... but the mainstream companies have their 64 bit driver support down.
 
What's going to be so good about Vista when you already have Windows XP 64-bit for running 64-bit applications? Just stick with XP. Honestly, who needs Vista other than those who want the most pretty interface? XP is more than enough for the majority of gamers.
 
Originally posted by: Link19
What's going to be so good about Vista when you already have Windows XP 64-bit for running 64-bit applications? Just stick with XP. Honestly, who needs Vista other than those who want the most pretty interface? XP is more than enough for the majority of gamers.

Maybe it is and maybe it won't be....will just have to wait eh?
 
There are a crapload of other bits and pieces that don't get the attention the flashy desktop gets. Some may be useful, some won't but it depends where you are coming from.

Things like:

Virtual Folders
Enhanced Security Mode thingy (think Linux root account)
File Metadata enhancements
The Media Centre stuff is nice
Windows Mail (the new outlook express)
The new driver model
yada yada

They just dont get the headlines. Personally if I was a home user with XP64 happily installed I probably wouldnt upgrade just for a flashy desktop.

However 2 clients I have are gonna drop file manangement systems that cose them 2-3 million per year just to support because the metadata and virtual folders replace the 2 most valuable functions for them with their Doc Management Systems, perhaps integrating Sharepoint instead for some basic workflow management.

MS have missed the boat on a crap load of stuff though - especially WinFS - which woulda made a more compelling argument to upgrade.
 
Originally posted by: Seeruk
MS have missed the boat on a crap load of stuff though - especially WinFS - which woulda made a more compelling argument to upgrade.

I never read all that much about WinFS, other than it was tossed out. So what was supposed to be the big improvement with the new filesystem?

Personally, I look forward to things like virtual folders, aka symbolic links.
 
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