I kind of like the Nissan Leaf...but

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JulesMaximus

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I'm not angry, actually I find it funny that your looking for government cheese and you criticize people that pay for themselves without a government handout.

Unlike you I could careless what people drive, I think we should be responsible to pay for it. **gasp**

That's a laugh. If you really thought that you wouldn't be crapping all over my thread.

And I'm not looking for government cheese. I'm not even really looking for a new car at this point. The Nissan Leaf does interest me though and I'd gladly take advantage of the government incentives. You'd have to be an idiot not to.
 
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Budmantom

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That's a laugh. If you really thought that you wouldn't be crapping all over my thread.

And I'm not looking for government cheese. I'm not even really looking for a new car at this point. The Nissan Leaf does interest me though and I'd gladly take advantage of the government incentives. You'd have to be an idiot not to.

I didn't realize you were so sensitive, must be that time of the month?

Isn't it ironic that the same people that you scoff at are the people that may(directly or indirectly)help you buy your next car.

One last thing, the people in the government cheese lines also think that your an idiot if you don't take advantage of that government program.
 

PingSpike

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Weren't there tax incentives for driving giant SUVs that designed to tow the space shuttle as a commuter vehicle for quite awhile? Government wastes a lot of money on a lot of stupid shit, but I don't feel like spending some money to bootstrap industry into building different kinds of fuel efficient cars is one of them. If gas costs $6 a gallon or something in 10 years I think most people will be glad there is already some technology in place that can help.

One thing I think the government is overboard on is emission standards. New cars are already pretty good on this and I recall reading old power plants and cargo shits do way more damage than the auto fleet does at this point.
 

JulesMaximus

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Interesting.

So why do you hate on SUVs so much when many get similar mpg that you do in your car? That seems a little ironic :hmm:

Um, I'm considering a Nissan Leaf to replace it. I've had this car for 8+ years. When I bought it I was commuting 10 miles to work and doing 2-3 days a week on a bicycle.

Been working at the new job for a little over a year now.

Irony not found.
 

skyking

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The Leaf would make sense for my wife's commute. 40 - ish miles round trip is perfect for that car. :hmm:
 

ShawnD1

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One last thing, the people in the government cheese lines also think that your an idiot if you don't take advantage of that government program.
Only a retard would refuse free money.

If the gubment wants to help pay for my car, that's fantastic. If they want to give me free food and free phone service, that's cool too.
 

LTC8K6

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Only a retard would refuse free money.

If the gubment wants to help pay for my car, that's fantastic. If they want to give me free food and free phone service, that's cool too.

Except that it's not free... :biggrin:

Not even to the person who seems to be benefiting...
 

JulesMaximus

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Except that it's not free... :biggrin:

Not even to the person who seems to be benefiting...

Well, you can always vote out the people who seem to think this is important if you like. Until then, quit yer bitchin. :awe:

By the way, the Federal government has been promoting these green initiatives for decades. My Mom had a solar water heating system installed in our house in the mid-1980s largely in part due to tax incentives.

Democrat, Republican, they both seem to support these types of programs and have been for decades.

Besides, it's not all bad. Nissan is building a new plant in Tennesee to build the Leaf starting with the 2012 model year. Your tax dollars are incentivising job creation here. You are also helping employ Electricians who will install the charging stations. Plus, Leaf owners won't be sitting in line at Costco in front of you waiting to fill up.

You guys need to stop being so negative. :p
 

LTC8K6

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Well, you can always vote out the people who seem to think this is important if you like. Until then, quit yer bitchin. :awe:

By the way, the Federal government has been promoting these green initiatives for decades. My Mom had a solar water heating system installed in our house in the mid-1980s largely in part due to tax incentives.

Democrat, Republican, they both seem to support these types of programs and have been for decades.

Besides, it's not all bad. Nissan is building a new plant in Tennesee to build the Leaf starting with the 2012 model year. Your tax dollars are incentivising job creation here. You are also helping employ Electricians who will install the charging stations. Plus, Leaf owners won't be sitting in line at Costco in front of you waiting to fill up.

You guys need to stop being so negative. :p

And they've been a waste of money for decades... :biggrin:

So far, Leaf and Volt sales seem to be underwhelming.

I think an all electric car that looks fairly normal, like the Focus, may be a more popular idea.