I just saw Inside Job....................... sickening.

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Zeze

Lifer
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Yes, you can put a spin on anything, and surely they did. You ask moveon and other idiots a question and you're going to get one (stupid) answer. You ask fox the same question and get a different answer.

It's all political now.

Tell me. What spin did Inside Job put on the financial crisis? Please tell me. Wall st didn't cause it?
 

GTaudiophile

Lifer
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Comments that I posted in the P&N thread I started:

-Disgust! I would love to see some of these bankers in handcuffs for a bit, afraid to drop the soap (Bernanke, Geithner, Greenspan, Hubbard, Summers, Paulson, etc.).
-The "revolving-door" between Wall St. and DC/SEC, etc. must be closed shut.
-Same goes for the revolving door between Wall St. and Higher Ed where these "schemes" are being taught as legitimate business practices.
-The Financial Services Industry has been smart, putting people in power in DC (and Higher Ed) since the early 1980s. These people, along with the industry's lobbyists indeed deregulated themselves to massive short-term profits at the expense of the American taxpayer. Most of these players have since gotten off Scott-free, laughing their way to the bank. Then again, the American taxpayer is not 100% without blame either. I am talking about those janitors and bus drivers who were too stupid to be convinced that they could afford a $500 million home on a $30K/year income.
-These crooks were/are enabled by presidents and Congressmen on both sides of the aisle.
-I can't believe they were allowed to bail themselves out.
-Hilter was to the Third Reich what Goldman Sachs is to the Financial Services Industry?
-Nothing has changed since Obama. He lied to the American people. He did nothing to seek justice and in fact has promoted even more of these hooligans to positions of power in DC.
-If it's too good to be true, it is. This should be the moral of the story when it comes to anything.
 

spidey07

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Tell me. What spin did Inside Job put on the financial crisis? Please tell me. Wall st didn't cause it?

Democrats mandating (via regulation) to give loans to people who couldn't afford it caused most of it. But you're eating up the leftist dribble like hotcakes. If you can't see the outright spin by that "documentary" which is nothing more than propaganda then there's no helping you.
 

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Democrats mandating (via regulation) to give loans to people who couldn't afford it caused most of it. But you're eating up the leftist dribble like hotcakes. If you can't see the outright spin by that "documentary" which is nothing more than propaganda then there's no helping you.

What about unregulated wall street firms peddling ultraleveraged real estate securities that weren't really backed by real estate?
 

God Mode

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I'm more tired of people that report it and bitch about it yet do nothing. I don't open my mouth and bitch about things if I know I'll do nothing about it.
 

God Mode

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Oh? And what are you gonna do about it? :p

Read and laugh at these spoiled gluttons angry because their appetites aren't satisfied. Everyone thinks they deserve more and more.

The people that are most hurt by these issues don't even have time to go on forums and bitch. I know that our system uses the weaker minded to maintain a servant class whether that be the military or low wage jobs.

If you have a home, tv and a car, you are so much better off than those can't even fathom buying a computer and an internet connection. The lazy gluttons commonly blame welfare queens and drug addicts because they choose to only see the baddest apples. I view this bitching by the middle class exactly the same as how the robber barons of our age fail to see the suffering of the middle class.
 

7window

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Funny that they did not include buffett in this movie. His company moodys rating warren buffett look the other way. As he say it "oh shucks".
 

freegeeks

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I suspect, much in the same way that ANYONE would NOT be able to spot a one-sided advocacy piece that doesn't even make any pretense that it was not taken straight from Moveon.org's accounting or view of things. Even enlisted some of Moveon.org's most well-known activists and supporters: Barney Frank, George Soros, Eliot Spitzer, Matt Damon...among others.

Ever see the 'fair and balanced' documentaries by that non-partisan mainstream centrist film-maker Michael Moore? You would love them! o_O

have you seen the movie, some of these guys that were on the board of the Fed were really cornered during the interviews. You really don't have a problem that some of these guys are on the board of the Fed making policy and at the same time are "consulting" for the big banks making millions, talk about conflict of interest but apparantly you are OK with it
 

freegeeks

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and the part about Wall Str investment firms selling cdo to other financial institutions as triple AAA very reliable nothing-can-go-wrong investment while internally they were shoring them like crazy because they described these cdo internally as a pile of shit

i guess that part is also the liberal conspiracy
 

JulesMaximus

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http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/inside_job_2010/

Man, I'm sickened by it and it's really sobering to affirm my conviction that anyone is a greedy human at the end of the day (or START of the day).

How can ANYONE believe in deregulation of corporations and blindly trust their 'self-regulation'? Corporations aren't a magical entity. They're are GREEDY PEOPLE like YOU and ME reading this now.

Everything is corrupt from bottom up- predatory mortgages, investors that sell the portfolio, AND the 'independent' S&P & Moody CREDIT agencies that are paid to give them triple A credit.

AND the government that turn a blind eye because of major contributions wall st. provide and their powerful lobbying.

It's corrupt all the way.

What's sickening is that the documentary has little to no effect. It's just a Tuesday night entertainment and all I'll do is to vent on ATOT about it.

Sick.

I've been saying this for years...but all I get is, "U am a liberul" from the mouth breathers here.

Who's interest do you suppose Fox news is representing? It sure as fuck isn't the people's. Wake up dumbtards, you're all getting ass-fucked.
 

airdata

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Do you seriously take some drivel written by Taibbi to be worth anything? Common now, you'd think people know better by now.

Are you saying it was fictitious?

Not that I agree with the bailout but it was 250 MILLION, not billion.

Whoops.. My bad.

$250 million is still god awful. They are slowly getting more information showing where some of the trillions in bailout money went.

If you're going to try to fix the economy by pumping out sickening amounts of money, it might be a good idea to do it like a professional... not like a third grader.

A professional would have a ledger and show you where all the money went and what has become of it.

A third grader ( The federal reserve ) would lie to you, pretend then don't know where the money is, and then when left with no other options finally come out with at least part of the truth.
 

JS80

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I'm not surprised the populist simpletons in this board eat this movie up. The movie blames all the wrong people for all the wrong reasons. But that's the point, and you are all sheep knobbing between the legs of the producers of the movie. Hook line and sinker.
 
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I'm not surprised the populist simpletons in this board eat this movie up. The movie blames all the wrong people for all the wrong reasons. But that's the point, and you are all sheep knobbing between the legs of the producers of the movie. Hook line and sinker.
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sunzt

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The failure of rating agencies really was the gateway to the financial crisis. If they properly rated those mortgage backed securities then yeah.....
 

HendrixFan

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Well I work for the self regulatory organization for the financial industry and I can tell you the firms do not tell us what to do. As a matter of fact everyone that I know and work with want to prevent or catch those that are doing something wrong. However, its not as easy as you think. There are over 600,000 registered brokers in the country and over 6,000 financial firms in the country that we try and help regulate. Its not easy.

Many times we would like to do more but we can only do what the SEC and the states allow us to do. For instance the SEC can go into a firm and shut everything down, lock it down and look through everything. We can't, we have to go in and request to see any documents and then wait for them to be produced. We don't have the powers the SEC has.

The documentary makes a point that there were people in regulatory positions that tried to do their job, but were unable to. The problem isn't people like you, it is the people who sit at the top of regulatory agencies. They have the power/control, so they are the ones being coerced by industry.
 

HendrixFan

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The failure of rating agencies really was the gateway to the financial crisis. If they properly rated those mortgage backed securities then yeah.....

They can't really rate anything, just offer "opinions".
 

Sureshot324

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I'm not surprised the populist simpletons in this board eat this movie up. The movie blames all the wrong people for all the wrong reasons. But that's the point, and you are all sheep knobbing between the legs of the producers of the movie. Hook line and sinker.

Care to elaborate on who we should be blaming?