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I just saw a beheading video..

Aimster

Lifer
This is the worst thing I have ever seen in my life. If I had a way to kill these bastards I would. It pisses me off to the extreme how anyone could do something like this. I really wish I was in charge of the world sometimes. I would torture these guys for life. Prision? I think not. I'd cut them every single day for the rest of their life. Especially on their face. It annoys the hell out of me when I cut myself shaving. I wonder how it would feel if I slice their face with a knife each day. I'm really PISSED right now..

Ok no seriously, in this video the bastards were wearing Iraqi army clothing. What is going on over there???
 
Originally posted by: AnImuS
Originally posted by: Aimster

Ok no seriously, in this video the bastards were wearing Iraqi army clothing. What is going on over there???

War.

This is not something you do in a war. You don't cut your enemies throat. The throat of the guy he cut was a fellow Iraqi. A person trying to help his country.

I don't care if your religion, your father, your mother, your culture, your GOD told you to do it. How can any human do this?

Were these people not raised properly? Someone needs to start forcing education in these ARAB countries fast.
They don't like anyone living next to them if they are not Arab, they love to start wars, they blow themselves up. They claim everything as their own because they once occupied that land.

Educated countries in that region seem to have it together.

Instead of forcing war we should force education.
 
When the Military Industrial Complex OWNS YOUR COUNTRY there isn't much room ($) left for educating.

Imagine what difference $200,000,000,000 might have made in the middle east if it didn't include murdering innocent people?
 
Originally posted by: dahunan
When the Military Industrial Complex OWNS YOUR COUNTRY there isn't much room ($) left for educating.

Imagine what difference $200,000,000,000 might have made in the middle east if it didn't include murdering innocent people?

nail/head
 
Besides, these are fundamental nutcases, you hear them screaming allah ackbah, that's to raise the spirit (i'd use whisky).
War leads to war. Besides, americans have killed many more people than they have killed.

Regarding the pictures, i only have one thing to say: Wuss
 
what happened to margaret hassan of the CARE group was absolutely awful. she was an iraqi citizen, for god's sake. she was helping them, not hurting them. all of this stuff just makes me wonder what kind of animals are out there. their logic is flawed, and whatever we tell them will do no good. 🙁
 
Originally posted by: tami
what happened to margaret hassan of the CARE group was absolutely awful. she was an iraqi citizen, for god's sake. she was helping them, not hurting them. all of this stuff just makes me wonder what kind of animals are out there. their logic is flawed, and whatever we tell them will do no good. 🙁

Put CAD, Rip or ntdz in the same situtation, they'll do exactly the same.
 
Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: tami
what happened to margaret hassan of the CARE group was absolutely awful. she was an iraqi citizen, for god's sake. she was helping them, not hurting them. all of this stuff just makes me wonder what kind of animals are out there. their logic is flawed, and whatever we tell them will do no good. 🙁

Put CAD, Rip or ntdz in the same situtation, they'll do exactly the same.

Unfortunately for your warped world perspective: the Christian right is just that, a group of traditionalist Christians. Often we as people set aside what we know to be right and do what we think in our own eyes is proper, this doesn?t change the spirit that we strive for.

Your political opponents are against terrorist acts of torture, even if you need to think of those you disagree with as the kind of monsters that we are freeing the Iraqi people from.

Unless you're talking about how every spirit that would have lived through the same life as these perverts would have done the same? Because on that level I both understand and love them despite the warped inhuman monsters they've turned into.

Which is my recommendation to you Aimster:? realize that we?re all humans, and though we?re not all as one, we are all the same? support those who face this and who fight to free others from such tyranny, both by sending them what they need *see sticky* and by razing your voice to point out errors that the administration commanding them may make.

For:

To call yourself an unqualified communist is? illogical, faith, at best? but as Paul said
Jews demand miraculous signs and Greeks look for wisdom, but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. For the foolishness of God is wiser than man's wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than man's strength.1
so I to am part of an illogical faith, and as such I empathize with your situation brother.


1.) 1 Corinthians 1 22-25
 
Originally posted by: Forsythe
Besides, these are fundamental nutcases, you hear them screaming allah ackbah, that's to raise the spirit (i'd use whisky).
War leads to war. Besides, americans have killed many more people than they have killed.

Regarding the pictures, i only have one thing to say: Wuss

Everyone in the Muslim world yells Allah Akbar. It is a way to guide someone when they need strength. I say Allah Akbar whenever I feel I need help. Mohammad Ali the boxer always said Allah Akbar. Neither me nor him will behead anyone.

As for the comment about those three that someone else said (cad, etc doing the same) beheading someone if they had the chance ... I highly doubt it. There are 7 million Muslims and 7 Million Jews in the U.S. You don't see them beheading anyone. They all have education. The Muslims who came to the U.S must have had some education to come here or they wouldn't be able to survive. The education system in the Arab world is .. 20% universities, 40% crap 20-30% military (ok that was just a wild guess...). Those three individuals might be Christian fanatics, Jew Fanatics whatever. Sultan on this board is a Muslim fanatic, but I highly doubt him nor anyone else on this board would behead anyone.

It wasn't a picture it was a movie. The guy was still alive 30 seconds into it and you could see him gasping for air and they watched him and then lifted his head again and finished it.
 
Sultan on this board is a Muslim fanatic, but I highly doubt him nor anyone else on this board would behead anyone.
I agree, even Sultan, who would willingly bludgeon his own son to death, wouldn't do what you've seen. but still, we all suffer from the human condition...

These people didn't just think this up yesterday, its part of what they've been trained to do? That they are ex-Hussein loyalists should help us all understand what true good is being brought to the Iraqi people by US intervention.

At least on an earthly level? still, on a Christian spiritual level I think nothing good can ever come of war and there is no way to make the wrong of a war lead to a right. Just look at how we defeated communism by demanding that they give there people human rights.

But war is a spiritual short sightedness we?re often willing to look past? one that it?s hard to argue against in human terms in cases like WW2 and the American war of independence.
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
It wasn't a picture it was a movie. The guy was still alive 30 seconds into it and you could see him gasping for air and they watched him and then lifted his head again and finished it.

Who was the person being beheaded?
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Forsythe
Besides, these are fundamental nutcases, you hear them screaming allah ackbah, that's to raise the spirit (i'd use whisky).
War leads to war. Besides, americans have killed many more people than they have killed.

Regarding the pictures, i only have one thing to say: Wuss

Everyone in the Muslim world yells Allah Akbar. It is a way to guide someone when they need strength. I say Allah Akbar whenever I feel I need help. Mohammad Ali the boxer always said Allah Akbar. Neither me nor him will behead anyone.

As for the comment about those three that someone else said (cad, etc doing the same) beheading someone if they had the chance ... I highly doubt it. There are 7 million Muslims and 7 Million Jews in the U.S. You don't see them beheading anyone. They all have education. The Muslims who came to the U.S must have had some education to come here or they wouldn't be able to survive. The education system in the Arab world is .. 20% universities, 40% crap 20-30% military (ok that was just a wild guess...). Those three individuals might be Christian fanatics, Jew Fanatics whatever. Sultan on this board is a Muslim fanatic, but I highly doubt him nor anyone else on this board would behead anyone.

It wasn't a picture it was a movie. The guy was still alive 30 seconds into it and you could see him gasping for air and they watched him and then lifted his head again and finished it.


You kill my mom, my dad, my son, my daughter, and I will not have a problem beheading you. That's all there is to it. Sometimes, it doesn't even take that much. Look at what happened to emmit till(spell check) for just whistling @ a racist fvcker's wife. Those guys were in the US, taken to court, and got away with something like that. How sick is that!!!!
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: AnImuS
Originally posted by: Aimster

Ok no seriously, in this video the bastards were wearing Iraqi army clothing. What is going on over there???

War.

This is not something you do in a war. You don't cut your enemies throat. The throat of the guy he cut was a fellow Iraqi. A person trying to help his country.

I don't care if your religion, your father, your mother, your culture, your GOD told you to do it. How can any human do this?

Were these people not raised properly? Someone needs to start forcing education in these ARAB countries fast.
They don't like anyone living next to them if they are not Arab, they love to start wars, they blow themselves up. They claim everything as their own because they once occupied that land.

Educated countries in that region seem to have it together.

Instead of forcing war we should force education.

How could any human do this? They aren't humans, they are rabid animals. Monkey's are smarter than these fools. At least monkey's have basic survival instincts rather than killing their own species and themselves.
 
It is not so much the killers are animals but they have convinced themselves that their victim is the animal.
Kinda like a chosen evolutionary mindset leap backwards.
I think it has more to do with the primitive mindset of our ancestors some people hang onto. (religion)
Makes it very easy to dehumanize someone when you think you are superior for superstitious irrational reasons only your own animalistic tendancies can justify at the moment of the horrid act.

I watched the nick berg video and will regret seeing that sh1t voluntarily for the rest of my life. Horrible way we treat one another, hopefully someday those that hold us back and tell us these base emotions of agression and irrational fantasies make a just casue for hurting another human being move the way of the dodo.
But then there is greed and need in this world still...
In other words I am sure we are all fuxx0red for generations to come since our society still obviously needs these truths to compensate for lack of own personal responsibility, and a huge does of willing ignorance.
 
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Aimster
It wasn't a picture it was a movie. The guy was still alive 30 seconds into it and you could see him gasping for air and they watched him and then lifted his head again and finished it.

Who was the person being beheaded?

An Iraqi guy who was blindfolded and tied up. One Iraqi guy was holding him down while another Iraqi lifted his head and cut his throat. he only did half of it and you could see him move and try to get air. He moved around for a little bit and then one of the guys comes back and finishes the job. I didn't have my sound on and I don't want to watch it again.

In the end they displayed his head alone, on his body, and they even kicked it I believe.

My guess is he was a police officer and he was working with the U.S.
 
Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: tami
what happened to margaret hassan of the CARE group was absolutely awful. she was an iraqi citizen, for god's sake. she was helping them, not hurting them. all of this stuff just makes me wonder what kind of animals are out there. their logic is flawed, and whatever we tell them will do no good. 🙁

Put CAD, Rip or ntdz in the same situtation, they'll do exactly the same.

So CAD, Rip & ntdz are murders & sadists, nice post Forsythe.

Aimster, what can I say? There's unspeakable evil in the world. I saw the Berg video & It made me cry.
 
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: tami
what happened to margaret hassan of the CARE group was absolutely awful. she was an iraqi citizen, for god's sake. she was helping them, not hurting them. all of this stuff just makes me wonder what kind of animals are out there. their logic is flawed, and whatever we tell them will do no good. 🙁

Put CAD, Rip or ntdz in the same situtation, they'll do exactly the same.

So CAD, Rip & ntdz are murders & sadists, nice post Forsythe.

Aimster, what can I say? There's unspeakable evil in the world. I saw the Berg video & It made me cry.

Although the three of them are right-wing loonies 😛, I would never say that they'd behead someone. Forsythe, you had better explain that post and hopefully we are misreading or misinterpreting that statement.
 
Aimster:

The AQ don't share our values and certainly don't share our culture, so I'm not surprised that we think their killing ways are barbaric. But, we do it with bombs and bullets and tanks. How does that make us better?

Also, 3.8 million blacks have died in the Congo in the last 10 years but no one here raises an eyebrow. Most of the dead are CHILDREN.

Why is America in Iraq when we could be doing so much more good elsewhere? Especially here in America. Have you looked at our bridges, our electric grid, or roads, our dams, our air pollution, our schools? But we could also be doing the right thing in the Congo, Bangladesh, the poor areas of South America. Why Iraq?

If you want justice, fight to bring our troops back to America. We have enough problems to solve here without trying to be the world's policeman.

-Robert
 
Originally posted by: chess9
Aimster:

The AQ don't share our values and certainly don't share our culture, so I'm not surprised that we think their killing ways are barbaric. But, we do it with bombs and bullets and tanks. How does that make us better?

Also, 3.8 million blacks have died in the Congo in the last 10 years but no one here raises an eyebrow. Most of the dead are CHILDREN.

Why is America in Iraq when we could be doing so much more good elsewhere? Especially here in America. Have you looked at our bridges, our electric grid, or roads, our dams, our air pollution, our schools? But we could also be doing the right thing in the Congo, Bangladesh, the poor areas of South America. Why Iraq?

If you want justice, fight to bring our troops back to America. We have enough problems to solve here without trying to be the world's policeman.

-Robert

You hit the nail on the head.
:thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Forsythe
Besides, these are fundamental nutcases, you hear them screaming allah ackbah, that's to raise the spirit (i'd use whisky).
War leads to war. Besides, americans have killed many more people than they have killed.

Regarding the pictures, i only have one thing to say: Wuss

Everyone in the Muslim world yells Allah Akbar. It is a way to guide someone when they need strength. I say Allah Akbar whenever I feel I need help. Mohammad Ali the boxer always said Allah Akbar. Neither me nor him will behead anyone.

As for the comment about those three that someone else said (cad, etc doing the same) beheading someone if they had the chance ... I highly doubt it. There are 7 million Muslims and 7 Million Jews in the U.S. You don't see them beheading anyone. They all have education. The Muslims who came to the U.S must have had some education to come here or they wouldn't be able to survive. The education system in the Arab world is .. 20% universities, 40% crap 20-30% military (ok that was just a wild guess...). Those three individuals might be Christian fanatics, Jew Fanatics whatever. Sultan on this board is a Muslim fanatic, but I highly doubt him nor anyone else on this board would behead anyone.

It wasn't a picture it was a movie. The guy was still alive 30 seconds into it and you could see him gasping for air and they watched him and then lifted his head again and finished it.

I meant movie, sry 'bout that.
I've seen the movie several times, along with all the other movies. And i can honestly say that i find what you just wrote more emotionally upsetting than watching any of those videos.
Think about the circumstances they've been put in, that's why they're doing it.
 
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: tami
what happened to margaret hassan of the CARE group was absolutely awful. she was an iraqi citizen, for god's sake. she was helping them, not hurting them. all of this stuff just makes me wonder what kind of animals are out there. their logic is flawed, and whatever we tell them will do no good. 🙁

Put CAD, Rip or ntdz in the same situtation, they'll do exactly the same.

So CAD, Rip & ntdz are murders & sadists, nice post Forsythe.

Aimster, what can I say? There's unspeakable evil in the world. I saw the Berg video & It made me cry.

Although the three of them are right-wing loonies 😛, I would never say that they'd behead someone. Forsythe, you had better explain that post and hopefully we are misreading or misinterpreting that statement.

Even more upsetting than Aimsters post 🙁

I think the reason for you misreading it is the choice of words i made, bad choice, i noticed it immediatly when i re-read it just 2 mins ago. I don't think the meaning was wrong though, not directly.
How about this:

"Put CAD, Rip or ntdz in the same situtation, they'd do exactly the same"?

Someone has invaded their country, and killed their honored leader. Ofcourse they'd do the same, they're extremists. You've surely allready read many things they've written. In this thread even:

"How could any human do this? They aren't humans, they are rabid animals. Monkey's are smarter than these fools. At least monkey's have basic survival instincts rather than killing their own species and themselves."

They are allready removing them their right to be human, just as Bush has done it by _constantly_ referring to them as "terrorists". That's one of the ways you make people commit horrendous things, by removing their human status, the arabs are doing this by calling them infidels, you used (prolly still have) the term commies. Hitler had "jews", which were compared to rats.
Your whole country is majorly screwed up, even Kerry felt he had the need to refer to them as "have no doubt, i will hunt down the terrorists, and i will kill them". Where's the mentioning of any rights for a trial?
I'm afraid it's just a matter of time before european countries join in on this.
And i'm not attacking them personally, we all know how the lack of facial expressions remove many of the limits people otherwise would have in a conversation. And that's happening on the internet, i'm talking about the general trend of people.
And what ntdz just said has got to be one of the more stupid things every said on this forum. They are indeed human, they are the most human of all! Only humans kill for pleasure!

Btw, who do you support, Chechnya or Russia?
There are some much better clips of Chechnyan soldiers cutting of the heads of, very young, russian soldiers. These are much much better, as in the way you see them very close, i mean, only head and neck is visible, and you see the knife going through calmly several times. And you here the soldier *gurgle*. They're undoubtedly still on the internet, p2p ofcourse.

And BTW, you are still alive up to thirty seconds after your head has been removed from your body.

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Forsythe,

Your comment about CAD, Rip and ntdz in this thread is out of line. They were not even in the thread when you posted the remark, and you have no foundation in fact for your accusation.

You owe them an unequivocal apology for your remarks.

AnandTech Moderator
 
Originally posted by: dahunan
When the Military Industrial Complex OWNS YOUR COUNTRY there isn't much room ($) left for educating.

Imagine what difference $200,000,000,000 might have made in the middle east if it didn't include murdering innocent people?

Are you forgetting that the money is there. The Saudi's don't seem to inclined to share. Why is greed in the region our problem? We pay plenty for what they produce and the money just doesn't get passed around. Saddam had plenty too! He didn't share either. One of the really big problems over there is that it is every rich fool for himself. They just use the poor and stupid as bombs. They have the $25K to give the family of a suicide bomber, but not the $25K to educate or help anyone. This is a local probale that won't go away if someone from outside doesn't fix it.

 
Originally posted by: Forsythe
Besides, these are fundamental nutcases, you hear them screaming allah ackbah, that's to raise the spirit (i'd use whisky).
War leads to war. Besides, americans have killed many more people than they have killed.

Regarding the pictures, i only have one thing to say: Wuss

We are just better at it than they are. Go technology!

 
Originally posted by: Condor
Originally posted by: Forsythe
Besides, these are fundamental nutcases, you hear them screaming allah ackbah, that's to raise the spirit (i'd use whisky).
War leads to war. Besides, americans have killed many more people than they have killed.

Regarding the pictures, i only have one thing to say: Wuss

We are just better at it than they are. Go technology!

Being proud of being able to kill more efficiently is certainly not a promising character trait.
 
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