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nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
I'm just guessing here, but maybe it's because some people don't like to be around freaks. Just because some freak decided that they want to change genders doesn't mean everyone is forced to feel comfortable about it.

No matter how much you try to justify your actions to someone else, that does not change reality or their perceptions about you. You cannot force someone to agree with your choices. It is not natural to inject yourself with female hormones, get bitch tits, and lop off your penis. That's a mental problem.

So... being around this "freak" would make someone so uncomfortable that they would have to quit and find another job? How incredibly tolerant. Can't be around people that are different, oh nooooo... is it still okay to work around handicapped people too? Or are they too "freakish" as well?
 

Specop 007

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Originally posted by: Amused
And if people born with sexual identity defects are "freaks," so are all birth defects.

Thats providing you think of sexual identity defects as birth defects. I for one do not.
 

Fritzo

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That exact thing happened with one of the professors at our local university. He/she is a client of ours too. Little uncomfortable speaking to her/him.
 

Ime

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I'm assuming this isn't a company in the deep south. I can just see "Gordon" coming out to a room full of good 'ole boys.
 

PingSpike

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Its weird, but I'd get over it almost instantly. Its not like you're dating your boss...



...are you?
 

Jfrag Teh Foul

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Originally posted by: anxi80
Originally posted by: aplefka
Ace Ventura?
"your gun is digging into my hip..gah!"

edit: btw, ask your boss why he butchered the last 2 matrix movies. it is one of the wachowski bros. (or shall i now say brother/sister), right?

BHAHAHAHA
 

Glpster

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:laugh: LOL

Holy cr-p this is the funniest thread I've read on AT so far!

Well... except for the self identified bigots who can't accept people for who they are, only the way they want them to be.

This reminds me of a college roommate I once had who I swear may have been a lesbian in a man's body.

Interesting thing about transvestites (cross-dressers), I learned. The large majority of them are heterosexual. Hmmmm....

 

Yax

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Hmm, so the illness starts at age 4-5 eh. Before that he was fine as a boy? We need to point fingers at the parents.
 

knyghtbyte

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
I'm just guessing here, but maybe it's because some people don't like to be around freaks. Just because some freak decided that they want to change genders doesn't mean everyone is forced to feel comfortable about it.

No matter how much you try to justify your actions to someone else, that does not change reality or their perceptions about you. You cannot force someone to agree with your choices. It is not natural to inject yourself with female hormones, get bitch tits, and lop off your penis. That's a mental problem.

So... being around this "freak" would make someone so uncomfortable that they would have to quit and find another job? How incredibly tolerant. Can't be around people that are different, oh nooooo... is it still okay to work around handicapped people too? Or are they too "freakish" as well?


Just to add to this bit, is it normal to put toxic liquid in your body or inhale toxic smoke into your lungs, both of which eventually kill you, sometimes quite quickly, sometimes slowly and very painfly (for the not so intelligent im talking about alcohol and cigarettes). No, the human body isnt designed to cope with these things as a regular occurance, so if you do them your being as much a freak as someone who changes their sex.

Personally i dont find anyone 'freakish', and im only using that word to make it easier for the simple and close-minded people to understand. Everyone is different, we all do things how we want to do them. I'd been chatting online for a couple years, then found a nice site with a chatroom to hang out in, after a while one of the ladies in there i chatted to quite a lot was getting very depressed a lot, after doing the decent thing and being a shoulder to cry on i discovered she was actually a he halfway through the process. Now im sure half the people reading this would probably have run a mile and changed their email, ISP and possibly even their computer to eradicate the freakishness, i however didnt, this person was a good friend and i had no intention of it changing anything, she is still a good friend, even met her and her mum once when they came down to London as the hospital she got her injections at was in Baker Street.
Nothing freaky about meeting her, she comes across more like a woman with slightly masculine features, i dont mean in the big hairy brute way, more the lean cadaverous style. Speaks mostly with a higher pitch voice thats fairly neutral. But most important, she is just someone i know, i regard her as a her because its what she is, she may have been a man physically in the past, but she has always felt like a woman, and now looks like one. Ok, i wouldnt go out with her on a date, for two reasons, one is i love her to bits as a friend and have done for around 8 years now, i knew her for 2 years before she told me and hadnt before that wanted to date her either. But also because she was a he, im happy to consider as a she as my friend, but its one step too far as a g/f, maybe that would mean i consider her freakish you think? nope, not freakish, its just not for me.

Go on then, pick this to pieces folks ;-)

 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Amused
And if people born with sexual identity defects are "freaks," so are all birth defects.

Thats providing you think of sexual identity defects as birth defects. I for one do not.

So it's possible for one to be born with both genitalia, but not the wrong genitalia?

Rather than let your bias get in the way, maybe you should look at this with objectivity?
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog

So... being around this "freak" would make someone so uncomfortable that they would have to quit and find another job? How incredibly tolerant. Can't be around people that are different, oh nooooo... is it still okay to work around handicapped people too? Or are they too "freakish" as well?

Spare me the PC nonsense. Try playing the "intolerance" card on someone who gives a rat's ass.

People that are different are fine. People that are handicapped are fine. People that decide that they want to change sexes by giving themselves injections of artificial hormones, have surgery to remove their sexual organs and try to transform themselves by artificial means is not fine.

Your argument is weak. I'd have no problem working around someone who was born with 6 fingers. But I wouldn't really want to work around a guy who decided to get an extra finger surgically attached because he thought it was a "good idea". Also, I'd have no problem working around a woman. But I wouldn't want to work around a woman who is actually a man. I'd also have no problem working around a black guy. But if the black guy is really a white guy who got pigment injections, I'd think that is weird.

To make it easy to understand, what you're born looking like is fine. But getting medical procedures done to become something that you're not indicates that you have a few screws loose in your head.

 

Amused

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: nakedfrog

So... being around this "freak" would make someone so uncomfortable that they would have to quit and find another job? How incredibly tolerant. Can't be around people that are different, oh nooooo... is it still okay to work around handicapped people too? Or are they too "freakish" as well?

Spare me the PC nonsense. Try playing the "intolerance" card on someone who gives a rat's ass.

People that are different are fine. People that are handicapped are fine. People that decide that they want to change sexes by giving themselves injections of artificial hormones, have surgery to remove their sexual organs and try to transform themselves by artificial means is not fine.

Your argument is weak. I'd have no problem working around someone who was born with 6 fingers. But I wouldn't really want to work around a guy who decided to get an extra finger surgically attached because he thought it was a "good idea". Also, I'd have no problem working around a woman. But I wouldn't want to work around a woman who is actually a man. I'd also have no problem working around a black guy. But if the black guy is really a white guy who got pigment injections, I'd think that is weird.

To make it easy to understand, what you're born looking like is fine. But getting medical procedures done to become something that you're not indicates that you have a few screws loose in your head.

If you're born with the incorrect genitalia, a sex change is a CORRECTIVE procedure.

Again, people can be born with both genitalia, or no genitalia at all. Yet you think it's impossible for one to be born with the wrong genitalia? Sounds like ignorant bias to me.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: Glpster


Well... except for the self identified bigots who can't accept people for who they are, only the way they want them to be.

On the contrary, I do accept people for who they are. That guy's boss is a man, and I accept that. It sounds like it's the boss who can't accept himself for who he is.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Glpster


Well... except for the self identified bigots who can't accept people for who they are, only the way they want them to be.

On the contrary, I do accept people for who they are. That guy's boss is a man, and I accept that. It sounds like it's the boss who can't accept himself for who he is.

No, it sounds like your mind is too small to understand the concept of being born with the wrong genitalia.
 

MrChad

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: nakedfrog

So... being around this "freak" would make someone so uncomfortable that they would have to quit and find another job? How incredibly tolerant. Can't be around people that are different, oh nooooo... is it still okay to work around handicapped people too? Or are they too "freakish" as well?

Spare me the PC nonsense. Try playing the "intolerance" card on someone who gives a rat's ass.

People that are different are fine. People that are handicapped are fine. People that decide that they want to change sexes by giving themselves injections of artificial hormones, have surgery to remove their sexual organs and try to transform themselves by artificial means is not fine.

Your argument is weak. I'd have no problem working around someone who was born with 6 fingers. But I wouldn't really want to work around a guy who decided to get an extra finger surgically attached because he thought it was a "good idea". Also, I'd have no problem working around a woman. But I wouldn't want to work around a woman who is actually a man. I'd also have no problem working around a black guy. But if the black guy is really a white guy who got pigment injections, I'd think that is weird.

To make it easy to understand, what you're born looking like is fine. But getting medical procedures done to become something that you're not indicates that you have a few screws loose in your head.

Do yourself a favor and watch Ma Vie En Rose. It's an excellent film about a small boy who grows up but feels like he should be a girl.
 

Glpster

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Originally posted by: knyghtbyte


Go on then, pick this to pieces folks ;-)


What's to pick. That's rather adult, enlightened, and commendable of you.

The one's who grow more intolerant, hateful, and biggotted as they mature are the ones who are never exposed to people who are different than themselves. Often (particularly the older variety) use fanatical religious beliefs to excuse their bigotry towards the diversity of humanity.

When you get to know people, the truly important things about a person's character, are well beyond any external characteristics, or thoughts, feelings, emotions, or behaviors that bring no harm to anyone.

 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: knyghtbyte
Ok, i wouldnt go out with her on a date, for two reasons, one is i love her to bits as a friend and have done for around 8 years now, i knew her for 2 years before she told me and hadnt before that wanted to date her either. But also because she was a he, im happy to consider as a she as my friend, but its one step too far as a g/f, maybe that would mean i consider her freakish you think? nope, not freakish, its just not for me.

I love it when people act one way, then try to claim to be another way.

On one hand, you're saying that you see absolutely nothing wrong with the fact that this woman is a transsexual.

Then later you admit that the whole transsexual bit is one of the reasons you would never date her.

Be honest with yourself- you are NOT completely at ease with her being a transsexual, and that's why you give that fact as one of the reasons you would never date her. You may give other excuses also, but that fact is a show-stopper for you, just as it is for me.

Would you ever date a women who used to be a man? What if "she" is hot? I know I wouldn't, no matter how good "she" looks now.

 

Amused

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: knyghtbyte
Ok, i wouldnt go out with her on a date, for two reasons, one is i love her to bits as a friend and have done for around 8 years now, i knew her for 2 years before she told me and hadnt before that wanted to date her either. But also because she was a he, im happy to consider as a she as my friend, but its one step too far as a g/f, maybe that would mean i consider her freakish you think? nope, not freakish, its just not for me.

I love it when people act one way, then try to claim to be another way.

There is no duplicity in what he says. We all have preferences in who we would date/mate/marry. This does not mean that those preferences should turn into ignorant bigotry in our everyday lives.
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: knyghtbyte
Ok, i wouldnt go out with her on a date, for two reasons, one is i love her to bits as a friend and have done for around 8 years now, i knew her for 2 years before she told me and hadnt before that wanted to date her either. But also because she was a he, im happy to consider as a she as my friend, but its one step too far as a g/f, maybe that would mean i consider her freakish you think? nope, not freakish, its just not for me.

I love it when people act one way, then try to claim to be another way.

On one hand, you're saying that you see absolutely nothing wrong with the fact that this woman is a transsexual.

Then later you admit that the whole transsexual bit is one of the reasons you would never date her.

Be honest with yourself- you are NOT completely at ease with her being a transsexual, and that's why you give that fact as one of the reasons you would never date her. You may give other excuses also, but that fact is a show-stopper for you, just as it is for me.

Would you ever date a women who used to be a man? What if "she" is hot? I know I wouldn't, no matter how good "she" looks now.

You are not required to have sex with a gay man in order to not be bothered by his existence. The same goes for transexuals, fat women, goats, etc.

Hypocrisy Connection Fail: Apples and Oranges Logic Error.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: Amused


No, it sounds like your mind is too small to understand the concept of being born with the wrong genitalia.

I find it interesting just how impressionable young people are. They think that they are thinking for themselves, yet they are really only thinking within the moral framework that they are taught to believe.

With the political correctness trend, people are being taught to think certain things without even really "thinking" about it. It becomes an reaction instead of a consideration. You are reacting to my viewpoint without even considering if I have a point or not.

It's like the ultra-liberal crowd. They are taught to "think different", yet they only recognise "different" thinking if it is identical to their own. Kinda ironic, isn't it?
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Amused


No, it sounds like your mind is too small to understand the concept of being born with the wrong genitalia.

I find it interesting just how impressionable young people are. They think that they are thinking for themselves, yet they are really only thinking within the moral framework that they are taught to believe.

With the political correctness trend, people are being taught to think certain things without even really "thinking" about it. It becomes an reaction instead of a consideration. You are reacting to my viewpoint without even considering if I have a point or not.

It's like the ultra-liberal crowd. They are taught to "think different", yet they only recognise "different" thinking if it is identical to their own. Kinda ironic, isn't it?

Your ignorance is astounding.

I'm 37.

I'm far from liberal.

I despise PC nonsense.

However, this is not a PC issue, but one of intelligence and knowledge. Sexual birth defects happen every day. People are born with the both genitalia, No genitalia or the wrong genitalia. Doctors and parents force the child to assume one sexual identity or the other based on personal bias and best guesses. They are often wrong.

Maybe if you actually knew what you were talking about, you'd have a clue?
 

Anonemous

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Originally posted by: cmv
Originally posted by: yobarman
That's interesting....


That's very interesting.


Why did he deem it necessary to tell his entire work force? Keep that sh;t to yourself, freak!

Because "he" was going to start dressing like a "she" and maybe get some operations done. WTF. Are people really that clueless?

I think he did a good job. I am happy that I will never have to do something like that...

So what was "her" name? Gordita?

Isn't that a menu item at Taco Bell?
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: PingSpike

You are not required to have sex with a gay man in order to not be bothered by his existence. The same goes for transexuals, fat women, goats, etc.

Hypocrisy Connection Fail: Apples and Oranges Logic Error.

You sound so young. How old are you? It seems that every high school or college aged kid on here spews out what they learned in yesterday's class, yet they have no idea what they're talking about.

And what you might find interesting is that gay people don't bother me. But people who get surgery on themselves to change their sex is a freak in my book. It is not natural. Homosexuality happens to people in nature. It is a natural occurrance. But nobody has ever changed sex mid-life in nature. It's just not meant to be.