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Saulbadguy

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..network user accounts for pre-schoolers. This includes e-mail accounts, too. For some reason I find this odd, wrong..and useless..but who knows. I'm not a teacher.
 

TheVrolok

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I think it's great. Young children learning computers early. It's gotta start sometime, computers are a way of life these days.
 

Saulbadguy

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Originally posted by: TheVrolok
I think it's great. Young children learning computers early. It's gotta start sometime, computers are a way of life these days.

I agree there...but I don't think pre-schoolers and kindergartners should be given access to all these resources at such an early age. Anyhow...most of the students know much more about computers than the teachers do...
 

Saulbadguy

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Originally posted by: DurocShark
I hope there's some really good e-mail monitoring.... :confused:

Sort of. We just implemented an anti-spam/virus agent on our email servers. People still get spammed out the arse though, but mostly teachers, not students. Students don't use their school email accounts to register on silly websites. Actually, the students don't use their email accounts at all. They use their ISP's email, yahoo, hotmail..etc.
 

guyver01

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make sure you have something like the BESS proxy running.
It's probably one of the best 'school' content filters around.

here's their link:
http://www.n2h2.com/products/bess_home.php

Bess Internet filtering software helps protect more students & library users online from inappropriate or illegal Internet content than any other filter. And since the impact of Bess software on your network is minimal, implementing filtering is easy for network administrators and transparent to your users.

 

DannyBoy

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Pre-schollers dont really understand the dangers of the world, or the insecuritys of the internet.

I hope they are monitored closely :confused:
 

Saulbadguy

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Originally posted by: DannyBoy
Pre-schollers dont really understand the dangers of the world, or the insecuritys of the internet.

I hope they are monitored closely :confused:

Teachers arent the smartest brand of people, unfortunately..so students dont get monitored that closely. We have content filtering (required by the CIPA)..but it gets very political around here about what gets blocked and what does not, and there is no policy about what should get blocked and what does not. We may block a site, and then a second later we get a bunch of angry librarians calling us telling us to unblock it.
 

TheCorm

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Hmmm....I don't think that Pre-schoolers need the internet at all...can't see why that can't wait until Junior School (7yrs +)
 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: TheCorm
Hmmm....I don't think that Pre-schoolers need the internet at all...can't see why that can't wait until Junior School (7yrs +)

Agreed. Unless it's extremely strictly monitored. I personally wouldn't be comfortable with it if it was my child.
 

MaxDepth

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Block everything. Apologize later.

Besides, these are children. They have no "rights" under the constitution. And the only protections for the children are the laws about welfare and labor.
 

TMPadmin

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Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: TheCorm
Hmmm....I don't think that Pre-schoolers need the internet at all...can't see why that can't wait until Junior School (7yrs +)

Agreed. Unless it's extremely strictly monitored. I personally wouldn't be comfortable with it if it was my child.

Pre-schoolers do not need and should not have access to e-mail. This is upsetting me. I know times were different but development of our children's minds hasn't changed that much since I was young. Children of that age need to be working with their hands, building spatial relationships, coordination, INTERACTION WITH OTHER HUMANS! We are seriously moving to a secluded society where we will never see anyone except online. I find this a waste of resources and of no benefit to the children who will be attending the pre-school. The "teachers" should rethink this decision.
 

Saulbadguy

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Originally posted by: MaxDepth
Block everything. Apologize later.

Besides, these are children. They have no "rights" under the constitution. And the only protections for the children are the laws about welfare and labor.

I would if I could. Our IT Dept (around 30 people) has no say in it..actually we have very little say in anything we do. We have a couple of old guys (were talking before WANG here, folks) who run things, have no idea how any of this stuff works. They make misinformed decisions. They are controlled by the administration, and they are total "yes" men. Its frustrating..but its job security.
 

MaxDepth

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Hmm. What do 5 yr olds instant message to each other? Quality of floor mats for nappy time?
 

Saulbadguy

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Originally posted by: TMPadmin
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: TheCorm
Hmmm....I don't think that Pre-schoolers need the internet at all...can't see why that can't wait until Junior School (7yrs +)

Agreed. Unless it's extremely strictly monitored. I personally wouldn't be comfortable with it if it was my child.

Pre-schoolers do not need and should not have access to e-mail. This is upsetting me. I know times were different but development of our children's minds hasn't changed that much since I was young. Children of that age need to be working with their hands, building spatial relationships, coordination, INTERACTION WITH OTHER HUMANS! We are seriously moving to a secluded society where we will never see anyone except online. I find this a waste of resources and of no benefit to the children who will be attending the pre-school. The "teachers" should rethink this decision.

I agree. Although, the teachers generally do not teach them how to use the email until later in their education, it is available to them. For the most part, the teachers just park the kids on the computers so they can play games.
 

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Computers in schools for kids younger than 12 is a complete waste of effort and money. God forbid they would actually spend time teaching the basics.

It's painfully obvious to me that since the widespread adoption of computers in schools the ability to read, write, and spell has done nothing but deteriorate.
 

Saulbadguy

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Originally posted by: kranky
Computers in schools for kids younger than 12 is a complete waste of effort and money. God forbid they would actually spend time teaching the basics.

It's painfully obvious to me that since the widespread adoption of computers in schools the ability to read, write, and spell has done nothing but deteriorate.

There is actually a charter school here that we provide IT services to. When the network goes down for a bit..or if there are any problems, they send the kids home. Messed up.