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I hope they fix this (Mustang GT 5.0)

Saw this on another forum. Ford needs to work on some build quality/supplier quality issues (the fuel pump(s), now tranny)
 
punjabiplaya said:
Saw this on another forum. Ford needs to work on some build quality/supplier quality issues (the fuel pump(s), now tranny)
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Yeah, a little disconcerting for the company that is being trumpeted for its return to well built cars.

Don't get me wrong, I understand heavy duty transmission that aren't butter smooth (my M3 is far from smooth), but something that seems to degrade so quickly is what frightens me.
 
ha and how many Mustangs even come with the Manual trans?

Sorry but that will not only be a small group but a even smaller one that has issues.
Its why I thought GM was being idiots when they had the firebird/trans-am talk about its power and ability to tear tires up. While Ford was using the Mustang in its Ads to go to the beach, have a girls night out, etc...
Why was that good for ford and not GM. Most F-Body/Mustang owners are women and get the V6. Even if they get the V8 its a auto most of the time. F-body died and the Mustang kept going.

This will be a small blip on the new updated Mutang.
 
Guys, this is really not an issue, it is by design. It's called a 1-4 skip shift. It was designed to save fuel (going from 1st to 4th). You can do two things to smooth shifting from 1st to 2nd. Either rev 1st to 3K+ before shifting to 2nd, or you can have it tuned out. I have a 2011 GT manual, and it's really not that big of a deal.

BTW, adding the Ford Racing supercharger also removes the 1-4 skip shift.
 
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JackBurton said:
Guys, this is really not an issue, it is by design. It's called a 1-4 skip shift. It was designed to save fuel (going from 1st to 4th). You can do two things to smooth shifting from 1st to 2nd. Either rev 1st to 3K+ before shifting to 2nd, or you can have it tuned out. I have a 2011 GT manual, and it's really not that big of a deal.

BTW, adding the Ford Racing supercharger also removes the 1-4 skip shift.
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I came in to this thread expecting it to be about skip shift.. but from what i've seen that is not what people are talking about.

Look at the link he posted, being nearly unable to shift into 1 (without just forcing it) is not the byproduct of skip shift..

As for manual vs auto in the GT.. ive still seen significantly more automatics in the GT than manuals
 
coxmaster said:
I came in to this thread expecting it to be about skip shift.. but from what i've seen that is not what people are talking about.

Look at the link he posted, being nearly unable to shift into 1 (without just forcing it) is not the byproduct of skip shift..
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Ah, well all I can tell you is that I have about 4200 miles on my GT with no issues. There is a clunk sometimes when you put it in 2nd, but I just don't think it is a big deal. It performs normally.

As for manual vs auto in the GT.. ive still seen significantly more automatics in the GT than manuals
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Oh, I won't disagree with you there. When I went looking for our car, the whole freakin' lot was full of auto GTs. :| I asked the dealer what was the deal with that? And he said, a lot of people just don't know how to drive a stick but want a Mustang. That sounds about right. The cool thing is, if you want the Brembo brake option, it can only be configured with a manual. 🙂 And like I said, GT500s only come in manual. So if you don't know how to drive a stick and you want a GT500, that's your problem. You don't get to dumb it down with an auto.
 
JackBurton said:
Guys, this is really not an issue, it is by design. It's called a 1-4 skip shift. It was designed to save fuel (going from 1st to 4th). You can do two things to smooth shifting from 1st to 2nd. Either rev 1st to 3K+ before shifting to 2nd, or you can have it tuned out. I have a 2011 GT manual, and it's really not that big of a deal.

BTW, adding the Ford Racing supercharger also removes the 1-4 skip shift.
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The thread is not talking about skip shift. Having problems going into 1st gear from a stop is not by design. Having problems shifting from 2nd to 3rd doesn't involve skip shift and is not by design.

I'm surprised that Ford didn't go with the Tremec TR-6060. It has done well in a whole host of cars.
 
This issue is also in the V6 mustangs which doesn't even come with skipshift as the V6 isn't' as powerful as the V8. So there goes the whole skipshift argument 🙂
 
KentState said:
The thread is not talking about skip shift. Having problems going into 1st gear from a stop is not by design. Having problems shifting from 2nd to 3rd doesn't involve skip shift and is not by design.

I'm surprised that Ford didn't go with the Tremec TR-6060. It has done well in a whole host of cars.
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$$$$
 
JackBurton said:
People with REAL Mustangs (GT and GT500) normally go for manuals. An auto in a GT is pretty pathetic and it's not even offered in the GT500. What does that tell you?
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Show's me that ford is missing out on sales. Manual's aren't for everyone and we're not talking about some old school automatic here. It's a 6 spd auto and someone already pulled off a 12.8 with it bone stock.

Calling it pathetic is pretty foolish.
 
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Castiel said:
Show's me that ford is missing out on sales. Manual's aren't for everyone and we're not talking about some old school automatic here. It's a 6 spd auto and someone already pulled off a 12.8 with it bone stock.

Calling it pathetic is pretty foolish.
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Agreed, but having to choose between a shaky MT or a AT would keep me away from the 2011 GT, for sure.

In another thread, the whole IRS/solid rear axle is being debated. That is definitely not enough to keep me from getting a car, but a crappy transmission definitely is. The MT for the GT should be the 'gold standard' for the Mustang, not the shaky model. Sure more ATs will be sold, but the MT V8 Mustang is classic. This is a serious issue to the brand IMHO.
 
Castiel said:
Show's me that ford is missing out on sales. Manual's aren't for everyone and we're not talking about some old school automatic here. It's a 6 spd auto and someone already pulled off a 12.8 with it bone stock.

Calling it pathetic is pretty foolish.
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I'm not talking about performance. I'm talking about the driver being pathetic. They normally choose this option because they can't drive a stick. Ford however won't deny people the option because the GT and especially the V6 versions are their big sellers. If they didn't give people what they wanted, they would be losing A LOT of money. However, with the GT500, Ford basically gave auto fans the middle finger and said, "no, we will not compromise on this car. A manual is part of what owning a performance muscle car is all about, and that is how it is going to be. If you don't like it, FU. Go buy something else." I like that attitude. 🙂
 
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I would never own any "performance car" that didnt have a manual period.
had 7 stangs all were manuals.
now have a G35C and its a 6MT as well.
just pathetic to have a performance car where you dont have absolute and total control over launch RPM and gear selection.. to me its a total and complete deal breaker.

As for the issue. sounds like nothing more than a defective lot of 1st gear synchros. not a big deal and should be easy for Ford to warranty and fix.
 
I love my T56, including when it sounds like it's chewing rocks.

I don't think a Tremec would cost any more than a Getrag, they are both AAA transmission builders
 
CVSiN said:
I would never own any "performance car" that didnt have a manual period.
had 7 stangs all were manuals.
now have a G35C and its a 6MT as well.
just pathetic to have a performance car where you dont have absolute and total control over launch RPM and gear selection.. to me its a total and complete deal breaker.

As for the issue. sounds like nothing more than a defective lot of 1st gear synchros. not a big deal and should be easy for Ford to warranty and fix.
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I used to feel the same way but it's not so bad. Would I prefer a manual? Yes. But the available choices get smaller and smaller every year and the car I wanted doesn't come with a manual.

Ford also had the clutch issue which I don't think has been mentioned yet, where at high RPM the clutch pedal would stay floored, there was a TSB for it. What's the deal FoMoCo?
 
ayabe said:
I used to feel the same way but it's not so bad. Would I prefer a manual? Yes. But the available choices get smaller and smaller every year and the car I wanted doesn't come with a manual.

Ford also had the clutch issue which I don't think has been mentioned yet, where at high RPM the clutch pedal would stay floored, there was a TSB for it. What's the deal FoMoCo?
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that's why there is Centerforce 😉 stock sucks.. and if you buy the 5.0 or a Cobra you prolly feel the same way. 😉 but yes stock clutches have ALWAYS sucked on the Mustangs and one of the first things to blow up under any kind of abuse. Aftermarket Steet/Strip clutches (or even the Ford Racing parts are usually good as well)

As for the above.. for me like i said its a total deal breaker.. and I wouldn't even consider a car that didn't have the option.
(yes that even goes for super high end sports cars with the new GP style paddle shifted trannys.. I don't like not having something to do behind the wheel..) every time I drive an auto I find myself bored and looking to shift. lol.


I don't drive a grocery getter, I'm not married with children.. I want my totally irresponsible, gas guzzling, tire eating machine, to be a manual.
 
exdeath said:
I love my T56, including when it sounds like it's chewing rocks.

I don't think a Tremec would cost any more than a Getrag, they are both AAA transmission builders
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The T56 and 6060 are both quality units and very popular across many domestic performance cars. I believe the GT500 currently uses one as well.
 
Marlin1975 said:
Its why I thought GM was being idiots when they had the firebird/trans-am talk about its power and ability to tear tires up. While Ford was using the Mustang in its Ads to go to the beach, have a girls night out, etc...
Why was that good for ford and not GM. Most F-Body/Mustang owners are women and get the V6.
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That's funny because the 1 person I know who drives a Mustang is a girl. Yes it's a V6. It has an automatic transmission.

Look at the link he posted, being nearly unable to shift into 1 (without just forcing it) is not the byproduct of skip shift..
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My Honda Civic was like that. Just by letting my foot off the clutch it would slide into gear. Going into reverse was like that as well. For some reason the stuff just doesn't line up but slowly releasing the clutch solves it. It's really not an issue.
 
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Thats what happens when you use made in china crap.

Thats seriously the only reason I probably won't buy one of those eventhough I love it so much.
 
Lol @ 1-4 skip shift. Sounds like the stock "shift light" on the stock 03/04 Cobra instrament panel that shows a up arrow at 2500 RPM. They only put that there to make it a tier 1 gas guzzler instead of tier 2. I bet the skip shift is a similar technicality to manipulate various regulations.
 
PhoKingGuy said:
Thats what happens when you use made in china crap.

Thats seriously the only reason I probably won't buy one of those eventhough I love it so much.
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That was my first thought too as I remembered the transmission is Chinese, who make nothing but garbage. For this very reason it is unlikely there will be a decent solution as the Chinese simply won't care or may not be capable of fixing the issue.

I was thinking about a new Mustang until I found out about the transmission being made in China. When are people going to learn?
 
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