"I hope the Apple rot" - CEO Mats Granryd

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CEO of operator Tele 2 on a conference:

"I hope the Apple rots. Its difficult to do business with Apple"

"It would have been great if people stop buying their products. Its very difficult to earn money on their products"

The article quotes another news with that the remarks comes "after long time of irritation of Apples demand for detailed information about customers and salesnumbers "

At the same time, 3 of 4 of Tele2 most sold products is Iphones.

Tele consultant John Strand told in an interveiw in January that "Apple control its partners the same way the management in North Korea control its press". They effectively make sure the partners "dont have a meaning of anything"

http://e24.no/digital/haaper-eplet-raatner/20362410

 

[Dari]

I thought this was interesting

Uttalelsene, som først ble nevnt i Norge av digi.no, har skapt stor oppmerksomhet i Sverige.

until I got here

Dette er ikke første gang det uttrykkes misnøye med Apple blant forhandlere og teleoperatører.

Teleanalytiker John Strand uttalte i et intervju med Dagens næringsliv i januar at «Apple kontrollerer sine partnere på samme måte som ledelsen i Nord-Korea styrer sin egen presse».

But this just blew me away

Da den svenske avisen Dagens Industri i fjor høst intervjuet toppsjefer i svenske teleselskaper om Apple, valgte markedssjef i Norden for Tele 2, Thomas Ekman, en mer diplomatisk linje enn Granryd nå har tatt: Han konstaterte da at Apple har løftet bransjen, og at de «bare beskytter fruktene av sitt pionerarbeid».

 

[Dari]

But, on a more serious note, what is a carrier expecting? They have a hot product and they like tight control of inventory and message. If they don't like the way Apple does business they can always stop buying their products and go with Samsung...

 

[Crono]

We as consumers don't want operators to have too much say, though. Just look at how Verizon and the other carriers demand to get exclusive variants of models, which makes it confusing to figure out exactly which phone is which, or the differences in phones. Or otherwise it delays the release of a phone by a month or more. Or they put their garbage useless apps on our phones; no, AT&T, I don't want to pay for a subscription to some substandard streaming service you provide.

Some whining by the operators is a good thing for us. They make plenty of money from the data they sell us and the markup they put on services like text messaging. It doesn't cost them anywhere near a fraction of $0.20 to transmit a text or even a thousand texts (I'm looking at you, AT&T).

 

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I thought this was interesting



until I got here



But this just blew me away

There is a country code in the link. .no norway. Its not that difficult to use translate yourself.

 

[dawheat]

I really do think as Apple products don't enjoy the absolute superiority they did back in the iPhone 4 days, they need to evolve their telecom relations.

I have a friend who owns a bunch of cell phone stores - he basically tells his employees not to offer/push iPhones unless a customer comes in and only wants it, and that he doesn't even need to tell his employees to do so. Both he the owner and the salesperson get significantly higher commissions selling non-Apple phones. He's sold 5X more Samsung and LG phones (and now the One which he can't keep in stock) than iPhones.

Funnily - he's saying working with Samsung is turning into not much better than Apple, though they still do make more money.

Right now LG seems to be throwing money at the stores commission-wise.

 

[jiffylube1024]

We as consumers don't want operators to have too much say, though. Just look at how Verizon and the other carriers demand to get exclusive variants of models, which makes it confusing to figure out exactly which phone is which, or the differences in phones. Or otherwise it delays the release of a phone by a month or more. Or they put their garbage useless apps on our phones; no, AT&T, I don't want to pay for a subscription to some substandard streaming service you provide.

Some whining by the operators is a good thing for us. They make plenty of money from the data they sell us and the markup they put on services like text messaging. It doesn't cost them anywhere near a fraction of $0.20 to transmit a text or even a thousand texts (I'm looking at you, AT&T).

+1. The phone industry stagnates when carriers have all the power.