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Wheezer

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Originally posted by: classy
There is something seriously wrong with a parent all giddy over a 11 YEAR OLD child taking apart a gun. Its is so so sad. What ever happened to sitting down with your kids watching cartoons, or washing a car together, playing monopoly, or going to a park to play ball or something. That is truly a f'in pathetic video.

Yeah, but parents that feed thier kids a steady diet of Mcshit, Taco Hell, Burger Crap and let them sit idly while the Xbox 360, the PS3 or the Wii babysit are the role models of parenting....nice try....now go away.

 
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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler
while i admire the kid's proficiency with the weapon, this is not good parenting. small children should not be given firearms. i don't care whether dad is a redneck gun nut or a brave soldier defending our blah blah blah, small children should not be given firearms.

Yes, but clearly your stupid so your opinion doesn't matter.

She's not a small child, she's 11. And she wasn't given a firearm, she was using one under adult supervision.

Well, I certainly have become Mister Popularity. Many thanks for all the attention and flattery. While I have everyone's attention, I'd like to say:

1. When communicating my concern over placing the responsibility of a firearm in an 11-year-old's hands, I was communicating my point of view, from my upbringing, and I obviously didn't expect all the responses of "I've been juggling chainsaws since I was 4". 3 years of Anandtech should have taught me by now. Good for you, and good for McKenzie.

2. BoberFett, as some constructive criticism, I'd like to point out your grammatical error. Your incredibly factual sentence should read: "Yes, but clearly you're stupid so your opinion doesn't matter." where "you're" is the contracted form of "you are".

3. You can take your AR-15 and shove it in your pee hole.
 

xXped0thugXx

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Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler
while i admire the kid's proficiency with the weapon, this is not good parenting. small children should not be given firearms. i don't care whether dad is a redneck gun nut or a brave soldier defending our blah blah blah, small children should not be given firearms.



you sir, might be braindead
 

xXped0thugXx

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irrational fear of guns FTL!


I think its great parenting. instead of forbidding your child soemthing, you actually involve them in it, let them use it and learn about it. meanwhile, the kid who is forbidden to even look at it is so curious and enamored about goes and shoots himself or his his friend or sibling while playing with it because he has no knowledge of it or respect for it.

In PA, you can go hunting at 12, but you need to be accompanied by an adult.



great point
 

potato28

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Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Aren't those things heavy? She handled it like it weighed almost nothing.

She's ripped and scares the 11 year old boys into giving up their cookies.
 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler
while i admire the kid's proficiency with the weapon, this is not good parenting. small children should not be given firearms. i don't care whether dad is a redneck gun nut or a brave soldier defending our blah blah blah, small children should not be given firearms.

Yes, but clearly your stupid so your opinion doesn't matter.

She's not a small child, she's 11. And she wasn't given a firearm, she was using one under adult supervision.

Well, I certainly have become Mister Popularity. Many thanks for all the attention and flattery. While I have everyone's attention, I'd like to say:

1. When communicating my concern over placing the responsibility of a firearm in an 11-year-old's hands, I was communicating my point of view, from my upbringing, and I obviously didn't expect all the responses of "I've been juggling chainsaws since I was 4". 3 years of Anandtech should have taught me by now. Good for you, and good for McKenzie.

2. BoberFett, as some constructive criticism, I'd like to point out your grammatical error. Your incredibly factual sentence should read: "Yes, but clearly you're stupid so your opinion doesn't matter." where "you're" is the contracted form of "you are".

3. You can take your AR-15 and shove it in your pee hole.

1. Your parents were stupid too or you wouldn't have such ignorant opinions, so your upbringing as a point of conversation has no merit.

2a. The Boston Dangler, as some constructive criticism, I'd like to point out your grammatical error. Your incredibly worthless opinion should have the trailing period inside the quotation marks rather than outside of them.

2b. If you're going to be a grammar Nazi, learn how to do it properly and don't make mistakes in your response.

3. No thanks, but maybe you can find an 11 year old girl to do it, pervert.
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Aren't those things heavy? She handled it like it weighed almost nothing.

I am thinking she is just that strong. Putting the pring in past the pin requires a fair amount of force and she did it without effort.
 
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you've called me "ignorant" and both myself and my parents "stupid", then inferred i would like to sexually assault 11-year-old girls with a rifle. do you always so elquently support your arguments in such a manner?

you really do seem bitter. is it because someone took a gun away from you when you were little? mommy didn't hug you enough? show me on the doll where the bad man touched you.
 

ConstipatedVigilante

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Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Aren't those things heavy? She handled it like it weighed almost nothing.

I am thinking she is just that strong. Putting the pring in past the pin requires a fair amount of force and she did it without effort.

It just takes familiarity with the weapon. When I was 13, I had trouble disassembling my dad's guns (under his eye, of course) and cocking/decocking them because I was afraid of doing something bad and didn't know the motions. Once you know a weapon well, you don't need much force at all. The hardest thing is probably putting the spring in place, since it can fly out if not put in right. And modern weapons like AR-15s do weigh almost nothing - they're made mostly of plastic, except for the parts that will be getting hot (barrel, feed, etc). My family owns a VEPR (basically a Russian AK made from assorted parts) and it's heavy as hell because it's all metal. On the other hand, the .22, 30-30, and Garand are all relatively light because everything that's not getting hot is wood. Some weapons are also made heavier to minimize recoil, but the AR-15 fires a .223, which doesn't kick much.
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

2) Functionally, the rifle depicted is a vastly less powerful firearm than most rifles used for deer hunting.

i'd be surprised if any less powerful rifles are used for deer.

when assesing the lethality of a weapon, shouldn't one consider range, accuracy, capacity and rate of fire, as well as stopping power?

obviously, comparing any m-16 derivative to a large caliber bolt action is moot, as they are apples and oranges.

Rate of fire is no different than any number of other semi-automatic rifles on the market today.

Range is less than many other popular hunting cartridges.

Most other hunting rifles are more accurate.

The only place it ranks higher than other common hunting rifles is capacity, but any magazine-fed rifle can match that with the right aftermarket magazine.

Once again, it merely looks scary. It's not actually more dangerous than any other common hunting rifle. In fact, in most circumstances, it's less dangerous.

ZV
 

jlee

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Originally posted by: classy
There is something seriously wrong with a parent all giddy over a 11 YEAR OLD child taking apart a gun. Its is so so sad. What ever happened to sitting down with your kids watching cartoons, or washing a car together, playing monopoly, or going to a park to play ball or something. That is truly a f'in pathetic video.

Ah yes, watching television..such a stimulating family activity..

WTF? :confused:

Originally posted by: Leros
Originally posted by: randay
Originally posted by: Leros
I know nothing about guns. Why is breaking down a gun fast an important skill to know? Do you need to do this in combat?

something about proper maintenance of the gun probably. or if theres a problem its probably good to be able to take it apart, fix, and put back together?

I understand taking it apart for maintenance, but do people need to be able to do it as fast as possible? Do they clean their guns in the middle of combat?

Why do people get so excited when they're #1 on the CS server? Why do people keep track of their gaming stats? Why do people benchmark their computers?

Originally posted by: classy
I have one last thing to say

She is 11

I'd trust her with a gun more than you..
 

ConstipatedVigilante

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Originally posted by: KingGheedora
What's the point of doing that?

It's pretty hard - it's really a skill. A lot of people would be impressed by that. And it also shows that she knows the gun really well - therefore she can probably perform good maintenance on it (I'm calling it early - you guys are sick).
 
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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

2) Functionally, the rifle depicted is a vastly less powerful firearm than most rifles used for deer hunting.

i'd be surprised if any less powerful rifles are used for deer.

when assesing the lethality of a weapon, shouldn't one consider range, accuracy, capacity and rate of fire, as well as stopping power?

obviously, comparing any m-16 derivative to a large caliber bolt action is moot, as they are apples and oranges.

Rate of fire is no different than any number of other semi-automatic rifles on the market today.

Range is less than many other popular hunting cartridges.

Most other hunting rifles are more accurate.

The only place it ranks higher than other common hunting rifles is capacity, but any magazine-fed rifle can match that with the right aftermarket magazine.

Once again, it merely looks scary. It's not actually more dangerous than any other common hunting rifle. In fact, in most circumstances, it's less dangerous.

ZV

i should have listed environment/situation. but anyway, yes to all of the above. what is considered a high capacity magazine for bolt action rifles?
 

Kadarin

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I think this is awesome, and agree that it's an example of good parenting. He's obviously proud of her, and it shows in her attitude.
 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler
you've called me "ignorant" and both myself and my parents "stupid", then inferred i would like to sexually assault 11-year-old girls with a rifle. do you always so elquently support your arguments in such a manner?
Ignorant is as ignorant does. If you don't want to be called ignorant, stop saying things that make it look as though you are.

you really do seem bitter. is it because someone took a gun away from you when you were little? mommy didn't hug you enough? show me on the doll where the bad man touched you.

You really ARE into touching little children, aren't you? It keeps coming up in your posts.
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler
what is considered a high capacity magazine for bolt action rifles?

Depends on the rifle. Larger calibers typically hold fewer (because they need fewer).

A Ruger Mini-14 (semi-automatic) in 7.62x39 (a .30 caliber cartridge on par with the venerable .30-30, an excellent deer cartridge) can be had with a 20-round magazine.

Rifles chambered for larger cartridges typically have internal 5 shot magazines, but there are others, like the Remington 750, that have 10 round magazines available. The 750 is also a semi-auto and can be had in .30-06, which is a much more potent cartridge than the .223.

I singled out bolt-action simply because it's what I have. Neither the Mini-14 nor the 750 are "scary" looking guns in the way the AR-15 is. In fact, most people wouldn't give them a second look.

ZV
 

ric0chet06

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I'm sorry, but thats not very many parts at all. My Tippmann 98 had more parts than that and it's a paintball gun.
 

Triumph

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Originally posted by: BudAshes
If this was a little al qaeda girl what would you think of it?

I would think, "Why is she stripping an AR-15? Where'd she get that, instead of an AK-47?"
 
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Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

2) Functionally, the rifle depicted is a vastly less powerful firearm than most rifles used for deer hunting.

i'd be surprised if any less powerful rifles are used for deer.

when assesing the lethality of a weapon, shouldn't one consider range, accuracy, capacity and rate of fire, as well as stopping power?

obviously, comparing any m-16 derivative to a large caliber bolt action is moot, as they are apples and oranges.

Rate of fire is no different than any number of other semi-automatic rifles on the market today.

Range is less than many other popular hunting cartridges.

Most other hunting rifles are more accurate.

The only place it ranks higher than other common hunting rifles is capacity, but any magazine-fed rifle can match that with the right aftermarket magazine.

Once again, it merely looks scary. It's not actually more dangerous than any other common hunting rifle. In fact, in most circumstances, it's less dangerous.

ZV

i should have listed environment/situation. but anyway, yes to all of the above. what is considered a high capacity magazine for bolt action rifles?

Well here's Remington's hunting line-up. The only difference between these and the one in the video is the color, otherwise identical. Does the color make them any less scary?