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OdiN

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Originally posted by: classy
I have one last thing to say

She is 11

So? What's the point?

I was using "dangerous" woodworking equipment like table saws and such when I was 11. Is there a problem with that? Why not? Because I'm a guy?

Was there something wrong with me reloading 12 guage shotgun shells when I was 8? And going hunting with my dad since then too?
 

FallenHero

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Originally posted by: classy
I have one last thing to say

She is 11

I shot a gun at age 7, and again at 9. Pellet guns and BB guns before that. All under supervision. I have yet to kill a man, woman, or child, have no murderous thoughts, and I've never pointed my gun at anything I did not wish to destroy.

Does that mean my dad was a bad father, or that he wished to take the mystery out of guns and teach us how to be safe with them, ensuring that his children would know what to do when a gun is around. (He always kept his locked up, but that doesn't mean other parents did)
 

udneekgnim

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I'm not a proponent for firearms, but I'm fairly confident she understands a whole lot more about the dangers of guns than most other children of her age.
 

TehMac

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Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler
while i admire the kid's proficiency with the weapon, this is not good parenting. small children should not be given firearms. i don't care whether dad is a redneck gun nut or a brave soldier defending our blah blah blah, small children should not be given firearms.

Care to explain why? She is 11? I don't know about you, but some people have matured a lot faster than others.


However, you do bring up a valid concern. I'm fine with this as it is, because what it means is another individual is being taught the complexity of a killing tool, and with that understanding at a young age more effectively reinforces the notion of responsibility and a better understanding.
 

TehMac

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Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler
Originally posted by: Anubis

i agree here, theres nothing wrong with this, and im pretty sure if she can field strip a AR15 she has been tought proper gun saftey

that's one hell of an assumption you just made. you're also assuming being taught gun safety equates to gun safety being practiced.

then again, i'm assuming she's just like every other 11 year old i've ever seen.

You're assuming that she's been taught strictly how to take apart and rebuild a gun.

Usually parents are behind that kind of instruction, and with that lesson, there will be strict parenting guidelines and teachings.

Especially if its a military family.
 

TehMac

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Originally posted by: QueBert
I understood guns and how to properly use them, but when we got to the hills I became an 11 year old with a Uzi.

1. There's a difference between an AR-15 and an Uzi.

2. If you were just "let out into the hills to shoot shit up" that's bad parenting or bad thinking.

However, this tight, parent instruction is a good thing. Also, you're assuming that because you were 11 with a gun and she's 11 with a gun makes you almost the same sort of people.

I agree, I wouldn't trust a lot of 11 year olds with guns, nor a lot of people with guns. Which I was I'd carry a gun.
 

HannibalX

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It's funny to hear people say she hasn't been taught gun safety. These sort of silly statements just show how ignorant people are. You don't progress to that level of knowledge with firearms without starting with the basics like everyone else, which is of course the proper handling of firearms.

Do you people even attempt any sort of critical thinking or do you just go with the first asinine thought that enters your hollow skulls?
 

TehMac

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Originally posted by: classy
There is something seriously wrong with a parent all giddy over a 11 YEAR OLD child taking apart a gun. Its is so so sad. What ever happened to sitting down with your kids watching cartoons, or washing a car together, playing monopoly, or going to a park to play ball or something. That is truly a f'in pathetic video.

It's better than just diagnosing them with autism and then a lot of ritlin, prozac, ADD, ADH, pills and medicating the shit out of them.


Have a little fucking perspective please, kthx.


Originally posted by: classy
I have one last thing to say

She is 11

And you're what? An Adult? Grow the fuck up and act like one. She's 11 and she can handle a gun alot better than you can handle your own fucking brain right now.

You're making all these retarded comments that we're supposed to insinuate some sort of grandiose wisdom from, but all it's doing is merely making you look like an absolutely depraved ignorant.
 
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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

2) Functionally, the rifle depicted is a vastly less powerful firearm than most rifles used for deer hunting.

i'd be surprised if any less powerful rifles are used for deer.

when assesing the lethality of a weapon, shouldn't one consider range, accuracy, capacity and rate of fire, as well as stopping power?

obviously, comparing any m-16 derivative to a large caliber bolt action is moot, as they are apples and oranges.
 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler
while i admire the kid's proficiency with the weapon, this is not good parenting. small children should not be given firearms. i don't care whether dad is a redneck gun nut or a brave soldier defending our blah blah blah, small children should not be given firearms.

Yes, but clearly your stupid so your opinion doesn't matter.

She's not a small child, she's 11. And she wasn't given a firearm, she was using one under adult supervision.
 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: Papagayo
She Failed the test..

part of dis-assembly is to remove the guards and the strap.

The Guard is very hard to remove, that's where most of the time is spent for most.

Hell, unless the thing is oiled to hell and back, I as an adult have had a hard time removing the guard on some rifles and I spent time in the army.
 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: classy
There is something seriously wrong with a parent all giddy over a 11 YEAR OLD child taking apart a gun. Its is so so sad. What ever happened to sitting down with your kids watching cartoons, or washing a car together, playing monopoly, or going to a park to play ball or something. That is truly a f'in pathetic video.

Cartoons nowadays are more damaging to a child's development than a gun. Have you watched the shit on TV lately?

Washing a car might make them think they could drive it, they'll steal your keys and kill somebody.

Monopoly teaches kids to be greedy capitalists who exploit the masses.

Playing baseball teaches children to swing a bat, do you want them bashing their classmates skulls in?

What's pathetic are chicken shits like you destroying the freedom this country once stood for.