I have no man card and don't want one.

[Capt Caveman]

I'm guessing you're a 25 year old virgin?

 

[Inspector Jihad]

be who you are and do what you like. just don't be like some other people and put on an air of superiority and think you're better than the rest of us because we like to do some of the other 'manly' stuff like watch sports and play games where we shoot each other up.

 

[BarneyFife]

Sorry. If you don't like Charles Bronson movies and football then something is wrong with you.

 

[moshquerade]

I never got guys who weren't interested in sports. I guess it's what you've grown up around and it seems odd otherwise.

 

[TallBill]

Lose the hair and get a real woman.

 

[RadiclDreamer]

I agree with the sports part but thats about it. Sports suck

 

[jjzelinski]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: pontifex
i couldn't care less about sports either

Yeah but are you going to post a thread questioning your masculinity about it like the OP? I bet not.

Wouldn't have figured you for the knee-jerk type, Red. I could be off base here but OP is simply curious about how he might compare to others since he obviously feels a significant degree of detachment from the people around him. He doesn't fit stereotypes (at least any I'm aware of) and yet he doesn't appear to hold that against himself; good for him.

I can already tell you one thing I admire about the guy is his sense of individualism; no heard mentality or group-think coming from his post, is there?

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: biggestmuff

Originally posted by: RichardE
Thats cool, have a non-alcoholic beer on me :beer:

Don't you mean a sparkling wine cooler? :wine:

fixed

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: jjzelinski

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: pontifex
i couldn't care less about sports either

Yeah but are you going to post a thread questioning your masculinity about it like the OP? I bet not.

Wouldn't have figured you for the knee-jerk type, Red. I could be off base here but OP is simply curious about how he might compare to others since he obviously feels a significant degree of detachment from the people around him. He doesn't fit stereotypes (at least any I'm aware of) and yet he doesn't appear to hold that against himself; good for him.

I can already tell you one thing I admire about the guy is his sense of individualism; no heard mentality or group-think coming from his post, is there?

Heard mentality? Did it ever occur to you that people like sports because they're fun to watch?

I was raised by my Mom, never watched sports at all when I was in high school and it wasn't until I was out on my own that I discovered football, started going to basketball and baseball games and you know what? Here's a real shocker for you, it was actually fun!!!

 

[Jeff7]

I think I might have to call the police and accuse you of identity theft, Locut0s, at least partially.

Sports - I can tolerate some. My dad occasionally watched football. It's like visual white noise to me. My mom watches baseball regularly. I find it quite slow-paced, like visual white noise played at 1/10th the speed of football.

Nerds as too aggressive a personality type? Do you mean that the "saturation level" of their typical sort of personality inherent in them is simply too great? As in, there's just too much "nerdiness" present?

Some pop/rock is ok with me, though my musical tastes are quite limited, and I can't stand most rap, or the yelling-music, where it's just some guy screaming his emo/toughguy BS into a microphone, with someone in the background torturing an electric guitar.

FPS games - I don't play many, but I do enjoy the Half Life genre, and I'd play online if my reaction time didn't suck so bad. I really wish more games like Giants: Citizen Kabuto existed. It seemed pretty creative, with rather unique settings and characters, and it had amusing cutscenes. I'll also play strategy games like Homeworld 2, and then almost entirely non-violent games like SimCity4. Between classes a year or so ago, I'd work on my cities. I have one entire region filled almost solidly with cityscapes, and I'm working on a second. It's all an efficient grid system.

Political values - I tend toward being economically conservative (old-style conservative, not this "neo-con" stupidity) and socially liberal. But I also support programs to help out those in need, like unemployment, Welfare, and Social Security. Granted, such programs can be abused, which is quite unfortunate. The standard "fired out of a cannon into the sun" philosophy should apply for abusers. I don't think that having compassion for others should be viewed as a liability though, as some seem to.


I'm reasonably sure that my man-card auto-destructed years ago, so it's not a concern for me. Usually when I hear the expression "be a man" used, it seems to mean, "Be more belligerent, uncaring, discourteous, and animalistic." You know, use more chest-beating-style diplomacy, that sort of thing. And I get to listen to jerks talking to their "girlfriends" on their cellphones. They are constantly apologizing for some stupid or arrogant thing they did, and when they hang up, they immediately complain to their buddies about their bitchy girlfriend, or "huh huh, she's crying now!" and then proceed to detail how many times they've banged in the past week, and so on. But I guess if the girls are stupid enough to stay with these dimwit guys, they get what they deserve.
I don't get why people do that. Are they desperate for the attention that comes with being able to say, "I have a girlfriend/boyfriend," as though it's some kind of status symbol and nothing more? I think you should be with someone because you genuinely like the person, not because you think it'll make you look better, or because it'll somehow improve your own social standing. Such behavior cheapens a relationship.

Originally posted by: moshquerade
I never got guys who weren't interested in sports. I guess it's what you've grown up around and it seems odd otherwise.

I don't get the appeal, and I especially don't get how people can become so emotionally involved in it, what with all the yelling and celebration that goes with each scoring of points. "Oh my god, the burly guy got a ball past a line! WOOOOOOO!!!!! MY LIFE HAS MEANING NOW!!!!!"

They're a bunch of millionaires playing a game.


Edit: Wow, that seems to have beat the OP's post. Oops. I'm "working" again today - doing tech support at an Open House event on campus, which involves making sure that projectors and microphones are working. Other than that, I get to sit here and nef. I hope you all appreciate this blessing.

 

[TheVrolok]

Originally posted by: Locut0s

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

Originally posted by: Locut0s
Interesting take. But that would mean I would be repressing my real nature and putting on this front. I assure you I am not. This is 100% just me. I don't attract the ladies and don't have any experience. Notice I said I like to "look" at the womenz.

I didn't mean to imply that you're acting, just that those are the likely results of being this way. Women always think they want to marry another woman until they find a man who is not manly. I think the Simpsons (or maybe it was South Park? I'm old ) did a show on this with Queer Eye for the Straight Guy turning everyone into metrosexuals.

Yeah I know the idea. Women want the nice guy but when push comes to shove their libido wants the tough guy. Meh probably true but I'm not changing who I am.

You know, it's possible to be both.

Eh, I'd say I have a decent number of man points - diehard football fan, weightlifting, some action flicks, etc. but I also have a solid number of chick flicks in my collection, love reading classic novels/lit, enjoy reading/writing poetry, etc.

 

[legoman666]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
I never got guys who weren't interested in sports. I guess it's what you've grown up around and it seems odd otherwise.

My father never gave sports any attention, and now I don't either. I guess it's what you've grown up around and it seems odd otherwise.

 

[herm0016]

i'm not all that interested in most sports but do watch an occasional football game or nascar race. though i am a Search and Rescue search manager, a soon to be gun owner, 4x4 driving engineer that love to hike long distances. I am not into fps games, like you i like rpg's and things i can work out my brain on. I am for small government and less social programs. I do not like paying people to do nothing ( welfare). I love to help people that need it and have dreams and ambitions and do my share of volunteering in the community.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: jjzelinski

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: pontifex
i couldn't care less about sports either

Yeah but are you going to post a thread questioning your masculinity about it like the OP? I bet not.

Wouldn't have figured you for the knee-jerk type, Red. I could be off base here but OP is simply curious about how he might compare to others since he obviously feels a significant degree of detachment from the people around him. He doesn't fit stereotypes (at least any I'm aware of) and yet he doesn't appear to hold that against himself; good for him.

I can already tell you one thing I admire about the guy is his sense of individualism; no heard mentality or group-think coming from his post, is there?

No just an attempt to validate himself to others as if there's a need.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: herm0016
i'm not all that interested in most sports but do watch an occasional football game or nascar race. though i am a Search and Rescue search manager, a soon to be gun owner, 4x4 driving engineer that love to hike long distances. I am not into fps games, like you i like rpg's and things i can work out my brain on. I am for small government and less social programs. I do not like paying people to do nothing ( welfare). I love to help people that need it and have dreams and ambitions and do my share of volunteering in the community.

Are you kind to your Mom?

 

[Gothgar]

Originally posted by: pontifex
i couldn't care less about sports either

 

[herm0016]

i am kind to everyone, including my step mom, and my mother (when she was alive 10 years ago)

 

[Sumguy]

This post reminded me of the MANtage

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: Sumguy
This post reminded me of the MANtage

"It's Joe playin' with a kitten! GOOTCHIE GOOTCHIE GOOTCHIE!!!"
:laugh:

 

[ViviTheMage]

were you home schooled?

 

[Linux23]

I turned in my "Man Card" and got a "Man of God" card.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard
You sound like someone who wants to appear sophisticated as a means of attracting women. Only too late will you realize that this approach is essentially handing your future spouse your balls in a jar (they're called "Ball Jars" for a reason) for her to keep on her desk. If you're lucky, she might want to get them out and play with them... once a year or so. I'm not a shrink, but that's my take on you from this one post.

Stupid generalization. While there is some truth to the fact that many women say they want a sensitive guy but really gravitate towards a more traditional, assertive, testoserone type, OP, I'm here to tell you that there is a woman who will like and want you just as you are, and who would want no one else BUT you.

And, OP, I simply don't understand why so many responding here seem either threatened or offended or incredulous that you may be and act somewhat different than they do.

So fucking what.

But, hey, I guess that's just me. :roll:

 

[MisterJackson]

The last girl I dated was more obsessed with football than most men I know. In fact, she's a jocks wet dream come true. Former high school cheerleader, nice sports car, killer looks/curves.....but somehow she ended up with me. She'd joke that I was a nerd, but the kinda cool nerd that other nerds wanted to be.

It worked for us....until football season rolled around....ha.

She'd try to get me to go to Clemson games and go tailgating. That just wasn't my thing, so I'd always say no. In hindsight, I guess I could have tried new things with her, but it wasn't high on my list at the time.

When she asked why I didn't follow footbal I told her that dressing in all orange and watching sweaty mens toss around a ball wasn't my idea of a good time (although it seemed to be hers!). I told her I couldn't follow the sheep mentality of pro/college sports. Any time she'd mention Clemson I'd go "BAAAAHHHH, BAHHHHHHH!" and she'd smack me in the arm.

Looking back though, she did try a lot of the things I liked. For example, even though she hated Transformers she went to see it with me, begrudgingly at first, but wholeheartedly after she saw Josh Duhmal (sp?) in the film!

I say to each his own, but sometimes you just gotta open yourself up to trying new things you think you might not like. I mean, how will you ever really know you won't have a good time unless you try it?

Even though we're not together now she keeps asking me if I'll go tailgating with her this year....I think I'll take my own advice and finally say yes.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Locut0s
I don't like sports, I'm not at all aggressive. I'd rather watch a nature documentary than watch just about any sports game or hear more about the latest sports stats on just about any sport. The only time I enjoy watching sports is during the Olympics and even there my interest is more academic than anything. I've always felt the "jock" mentality to be almost completely alien. But in the same stroke I've never understood 'nerds', again too aggressive a personality type. I can't stand most rock/pop I prefer classical music. I don't like almost any movie targeted at men my age, action flicks, horror, shallow special effects extravaganzas. I've never caught on to the gorefest FPS extravaganza that seems to pass for your average game these days. I far prefer complex dramas, RPGs, adventure games and the like. I'm anti violence, anti death penalty, anti gun (well not entirely), anti conservative. I have long hair and would probably have been a hippie in days of yore, except I'm probably not social enough to have been even that. No I don't think I would pass the prelims for man card certification. But then I don't care to own one really. You could say that in everything but sexuality and mannerisms I'm a fairly gay man, not that I care, but I love watching the womenz.

How do you compare?

Yes the above is a bit of an exaggeration about myself but not hugely.

I don't like watching sports or playing team sports but I do like skiing, mountain biking, running and weight lifting. Never was a "jock" nor was I a nerd.

I love rock, tolerate pop and am often in the mood for classical.

I like all kinds of movies, except those with terrible acting, direction or plot lines. Yes, even those labeled as chick flicks are fine with me as long as they are not horribly done.

I love FPS games simply because of the immersion factor. Though my reaction times are slowing now that I'm 40.

I'm anti-violence, except in self defense. I will never back down, yet will never strike first unless I fear for my own safety, or the safety of others. If I can resolve an issue with words, I will always do so. I am pro death penalty and VERY pro gun. The second amendment is there for a reason, and it ain't hunting or target shooting. I don't believe these things because I'm an aggressive manly man, but because if I'm not willing to stand up for my freedom, rights and individual safety, who will?

In short, I will never suffer a bully, be they political, governmental or individual. Nor will I ever be a bully.

I am anti-liberal AND anti-conservative. I am libertarian. Not a member of the Libertarian party, just that's what my ideology most closely fits. I believe individual freedom should only stop when you violate the rights of others. Period. Collectivism/socialism is an abject failure and ALWAYS results in the loss of freedom. It is my belief that anyone who is only "anti-conservative" or only "anti-liberal" is a hypocrite. Both ideologies are dangerous to our freedoms and rights. Each party is just picking different freedoms and rights to rob us of.

I had long hair as a teen, but have kept it short ever since I was in the military. It's just easier. I am moderately social, yet typical male bonding never appealed to me.

I don't give a flying fsck if someone questions my manhood.

 

[yllus]

I don't think you'll have an easy time associating with others in North American society, but you should certainly stay true to yourself regardless. Just make sure you haven't ruled out things like sports and violent movies because you want to be contrarian - make sure you truly don't enjoy them and aren't simply in a phase of rebellion.