I have my first new computer ever - I need general maintenance tips please.

xboxist

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What kinds of things can I do to maintain my investment's performance and lifespan? I consider myself a slightly-above-average computer user. I know of:

Anti-viral programs and/or a firewall.
Regular defragmentations.
Has anyone ever had some freak electrical occurences where they're actually glad that they bought that $75 surge protector?
What about the guts of my beast? Take a can of compressed air to it every other month or something?

Anything else?

Thanks!
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: xboxist
What kinds of things can I do to maintain my investment's performance and lifespan? I consider myself a slightly-above-average computer user. I know of:

Anti-viral programs and/or a firewall.
Regular defragmentations.
Has anyone ever had some freak electrical occurences where they're actually glad that they bought that $75 surge protector?
What about the guts of my beast? Take a can of compressed air to it every other month or something?

Anything else?

Thanks!

Yes to all of that. A firewall is more an issue if you're on broadband. Compressed air is a good thing, and so is a quality surge protector. Remember to fill out and mail the warranty card.

Good luck!
 

m2kewl

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firewall (software/hardware), surge protector, and regularly backing up your files are a must.

why? b/c sh!t happens.
 

dcdomain

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Surge protector??? Go and grab a $100 UPS! =T I've used mine on occassion...
 

Migroo

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Remember that software cant damage the hardware - if youre not too concerned about things happening to your data, remember that you can always reinstall the operating system.

Regular backups are good as are antivirus programs.

 

xboxist

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Thanks!

To those that use the can-o-air, how often do you think I should do that to my machine?
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: xboxist
Thanks!

To those that use the can-o-air, how often do you think I should do that to my machine?

Depends. Since I moved to Indiana, the amount of dust in my system quintipled. Mississippi isn't a dusty place, but Indiana is. If you look in your case and say, "Whoa", it's time to dust.

:D
 

Apotherix

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Has anyone ever had some freak electrical occurences where they're actually glad that they bought that $75 surge protector?
In response to your question, no. And I frankly think that unless you live in the Amazon rainforest, your house will probably not get struck by lightning, and unless you are on your computer 24/7 for work or something, then you don't need one. I can't justify the cost.
 

Devcon

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The best anti-virus is common sense. All those AV programs do nothing more than slow down and screw up computers. I've never had a virus on my machine and I never use AV software despite the fact that I download ALOT. As far as the firewall goes... If you are that concerned about privacy protection I guess its a good idea, but unless you constantly hang around on IRC, I don't see much need for that either.

Definately get a surge protector though, and yeah cleaning out the dust every once and awhile is always good.
 

xboxist

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Alright... so I'm going to blow (heh) my computer every now and then, and I'm going to pick up a mid-range surge protector and I'll get the latest Norton's from someone. I'm undecided about a firewall. *ponders*

How long can I expect a defrag to take on a 120gig drive?
 

syberscott

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Originally posted by: xboxist
Alright... so I'm going to blow (heh) my computer every now and then, and I'm going to pick up a mid-range surge protector and I'll get the latest Norton's from someone. I'm undecided about a firewall. *ponders*

How long can I expect a defrag to take on a 120gig drive?
My favorite firewall is the "Kerio Personal Firewall". It is free for home use and works very well. I tested it it with some port scanners and it was better than ZoneAlarm.

 

ynot167

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Preventative maintenance is important, but if the unthinkable happens...then what?

If you have important files such as pictures, videos, music, data, etc., then you should burn them on cds. That way, if your computer does crash you won't have to spend mucho bucks to retreive them.

 

TheWart

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i agree with syberscott, Kerio is my fav. as far as antivirus goes, i recommend the free AVG Anti-Virus. excellent performance for me, no noticeable slowdown when configured correctly.

what OS do you have? if you have Win2k or WinXP then defrags won't be too slow. for any other OS i would get Diskeeper 6.0, a really fast and thorough defrag utility (i use it on WinXP machines). but that is not really necessary, as you dont have to defrag too often if your computer experiences pretty normal use.
 

oynaz

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I'd just pop by and recommand the Antivir viruskiller. It doesn't slow toyr system down - not even on my 300 mhz beat.
 

tsapiano

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Originally posted by: Apotherix
Has anyone ever had some freak electrical occurences where they're actually glad that they bought that $75 surge protector?

Our house was hit by lightning a few years back - a surge came up through the ground and fried most of the plugged-in electronics in the house that weren't hooked up to surge protectors or UPSs. The only part of my computer (a 486 at the time) that got fragged was the opto-isolators on the parallel port (thankfully on an ISA expansion card so easy to replace) connected to the LaserJet III that wasn't protected (which was one of the few unprotected devices that didn't have a problem with the surge). I've still got piles of scortched PCBs from various pieces around the house (actually quite interesting because you can see exactly where the failure occured) ;)

We're not in a lightning prone area, nor is the house in a large open space - it unfortunately happens every once and a while and as we learned a few bucks spent beforehand saved us a good deal of trouble. Lighting hits fast and hard, and fuses can't react fast enough to do much good ;) When it happens, UPS' are worth their weight in gold!
 

Mitzi

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Originally posted by: Devcon
The best anti-virus is common sense. All those AV programs do nothing more than slow down and screw up computers. I've never had a virus on my machine and I never use AV software despite the fact that I download ALOT. As far as the firewall goes... If you are that concerned about privacy protection I guess its a good idea, but unless you constantly hang around on IRC, I don't see much need for that either.

Err.....thats debatable....

How do you know you've not had a virus if you've never had any anti-virus software? No anti virus software I've ever used has slowed down a machine noticably (sp??) and if you have a broadband connection a firewall (hard or soft) IS common sense.

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GRIFFIN1

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First, you will want to install Kazza, Real Player, and Quicktime.

Then you will want to start surfing warez and porn sites. Click "yes" to every dialogue box that pops up on the screen. Always make sure you click yes to any program that says it will speed up your computer.

 

Harabecw

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A lightning hit somewhere near my house and fried my P3 system. result? I got a new P4 system :)
 

dskaplan

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Some user wrote "All those AV programs do nothing more than slow down and screw up computers. I've never had a virus on my machine and I never use AV software despite the fact that I download ALOT."

My question is: How do you know you have never had a virus if you have no antivirus software? Is that like telling someone you KNOW you're not gonna get AIDS if you screw some random chick without a condom?

Common sense tells you to protect your computer. If you download "ALOT", then get an antivirus program. Don't listen to this nieve fool. If you have broadband and you intend to download a lot of stuff, then by personal experience the best thing to do is to make a download folder, download EVERYTHING you download to that folder, and scan it before you do anything with those files. This way you only have to scan one folder, which doesn't take long, instead of your entire system, which can be a nuisance.

A firewall program is a must if you have broadband. Free firewall progarms can be just as good as the expensive ones. Go do some research and see what would work best for you.

Remember, you can always download the full versions of retail programs with Kazaa : ) I use Norton Antivirus and Norton Personal Firewall, both retail downloaded from Kazaa, and they work great on my system. No performance degredation at all. It all depends on your system. Obviously, if you have a slow computer, programs which continually scan your system will slow it down.

Feel free to PM me if you have any other questions.
 

dullard

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1) If you won't use your computer overnight - then turn it off since prolonged use will wear down parts. But also turning it on and off will put strain on parts - so if you are leaving just for an hour or less, then leave the computer on.
2) Defragmentations can speed up your computer a very slight amount (after intense benchmarking I found I get about a 2% speed boost in opening programs). Other than that, defragmenting really doesn't do much. So often I hear this type of conversation: "Person 1) My printer doesn't work. Person 2) Did you defrag?" I'm sorry but defragging won't fix any problems you have. I tend to do it every 6 months or so (and on the NT computers at work they are going on 6 years without a defrag and are running perfectly - since Win NT doesn't have a defrag included). Do it when you want, but it is certainly well overhyped.
3) I've run some computers for years without anti-virus programs, and other computers for years with them. I've had no problem with either - just one harmless virus which was quickly and easilly eradicated. Thus a responsible user will have an anti-viral program handy and won't be harmed in any way by running it at all times. However I've seen many people infected with about a dozen viruses a day (My in-laws for example, or one of my coworkers). If you click on everything and download everything, you will be infected - so an antivirus program is a must.
4) I've never been hit by a surge that caused damage, but my sister did. It fried everything in her apartment except her computer (microwave, TV, fridge, etc. were all goners). She had a $5 surge protecter on her computer that saved it. So no there is no reason to get a $75 one. The key is to replace them every 2 years or so - since all degrade quickly in protection while being used.
5) I've never used a can of compressed air for anything but the keyboard. Unless you are trying to get the best overclock possible, the small amount of dust won't cause harm. If you see a big dust bunny, then reach in and, pull it out of course...
6) Yes some parts may eventually fail. I've seen quite a few video cards become blurry (all the same model from the same manufacturer), I've seen a couple hard drives go bad, I've seen quite a few bad CD drives or bad floppy drives, and I've seen smoke come from a monitor. In each case, there was no user error - parts just have a finite lifetime. So the best advice is to be prepared. Backup your important files, keep your old computer for temporary parts if one part goes bad in your new computer, etc.

Basically it is all common sense.
 

dskaplan

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One comment I'd like to make about 'dullard's post...

Keeping your system on will 'not' wear down parts. Computer components are not like automobile parts, they do not wear after continual use. He is correct, however, in that turning the computer off and on will put a strain on the components, as a slight surge might be sent through the motherboard when the system is powered on (not off, usually). The only difference between a computer powered on and a computer powered off is that when on, there's electrical current running through the computer. It's not mechanical (save the fans), and again, prolonged use will not wear the parts.

If you have broadband and you plan on being gone for a day, I would recommend leaving the computer powered down, simply to prevent hacking and such.

Also, if this is a new computer make sure you do a burn-in test. Meaning, leave the computer powered on for 48-72 hours without shutting down. More often than not, if anything is going to fail, it'll fail during this period.
 

dullard

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Keeping your system on will 'not' wear down parts. Computer components are not like automobile parts, they do not wear after continual use. He is correct, however, in that turning the computer off and on will put a strain on the components, as a slight surge might be sent through the motherboard when the system is powered on (not off, usually). The only difference between a computer powered on and a computer powered off is that when on, there's electrical current running through the computer. It's not mechanical (save the fans), and again, prolonged use will not wear the parts.
Except several studies of computer labs with identical computers, identical programs, and the same technician in each lab have shown the labs that turn them off at night have fewer parts going bad...

Hard drives running continually do eventually wear out, same goes with fans. These are mechanical parts running nonstop that friction does eventually get to. If you've found a way to eliminate friction and have parts running forever, I'd love to help you get a patent on it. ;)