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I have a confession to make...

Fingolfin269

Fingolfin269

Lifer
This will come as a shock to many of you who have read about my disdain for the Apple cult.

I just bought a Macbook Pro 13" (2010) from Amazon. (Pliablemoose... stock price ^^^)

I've been looking for a laptop, initially thought I wanted a gaming behemoth with a ginormous screen that weighed more than a toddler, before deciding I wanted a smaller, more portable solution. 13" seemed to be the sweet spot. I researched for a while and couldn't get over just how nice the screen looked on the Apple relative to what I kept reading about the Alienware, Acer, and Asus laptops I was also considering on the other side. Even after I decided the Mac had the better hardware I still had to convince myself that paying a few hundred extra $$ was worth it. I had some coworkers kind of talk me into it today with the "Apple's have awesome resale value man" but ultimately it came down to this...

I'm a geek. And I realized I don't know much of anything about Macs, OSX, etc. And that was the clincher.

I should have it next Wednesday. Will report back once it arrives.
 
LOL

Am actually diversifying a bit lately 🙂 but still have a bit of Apple stock 😀

I keep looking at MB's too, am sorely tempted...
 
Similar to the reason why I got my MacBook initially. I hope you enjoy your purchase.

I recommend trying to use OS X exclusively for at least a couple of weeks so you can get a feel for the ins and outs, also just remember that it isn't Windows, so things are going to work the same.

And please, for the love of god, do not think that the + button is a full screen button, and learn to love the window layering and expose.
 
just remember osx is unix - *bsd variety - the best it gets 🙂

and fusion/parallels gives you the other things you might need.

but do yourself a favor and brush up on *nix commands.
 
Thanks guys. My goal is to act like Windows does not exist when using this machine, at least for the short term, so hopefully that will help me get acclimated much faster.
 
aphex said:
welcome to the dark side 🙂
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ftfy

In all honesty though, I was the same way. I had a general dislike for anything apple, but in the back of my mind, I was secretly admiring those new unibodies.

I too dabbled in the idea of a gaming laptop for a while, but eventually I figured I wanted something reasonably light (anything under 5 pounds) and full powered (not a netbook or CULV laptop). Gaming would be left to where it belongs: the desktop.

For a while, I looked at some of the other 13" offerings other companies had. In the end I went with Apple, because most other laptops around $1K were made out of plastic. Having just had a Dell inspiron, I decided I didn't want to go that route again (it didn't feel durable at all). So I decided to pony up a couple of extra dollars, and I ended up spending $1150 for my June 09 13" MBP. I couldn't be happier with my choice.

I've got a thin, relatively light, durable, portable, and powerful laptop that rivals just about anything at that price.
 
I mean, not everyone will agree, but it isn't just about specs sheets. You really do get something tangible out of the extra money that a Mac usually costs. The feel of the system, OS X of course, how solid it feels, and the new unibodies set a whole new standard for SOLID.
 
Once the honeymoon with the nice and slim is over, you'll find that OSX will annoy power users (who don't use command lines).

2 years with Leopard and Snow Leopard was enough.
 
Fingolfin269 said:
How so? And what is your definition of a power user?
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A power user works faster than the computer in work flow. If the computer isn't fast enough, you end up waiting for it.

For instance you will find document management to suck hugely in OS X.

Window management is OK but is now inferior to Windows 7 which can easily bring things back and forth between layers for multi-tasking.

A few things you will find actually are the same, such as Ctrl-W (for close) is equivalent to Apple (CMD)-W, which helps with moving back and forth.

You'll see. I've personally owned a Macbook and helped others buy Macbook Pros. Fine for everyday usage, but not for the frenetic ones like me.
 
I have a windows 7 test computer and I personally prefer the mac virtual desktops and expose to the way windows 7 works.

There are things windows 7 does I wish my mac did, but I find myself far more often wishing windows 7 did things my mac or linux computers did.
 
sourceninja said:
I have a windows 7 test computer and I personally prefer the mac virtual desktops and expose to the way windows 7 works.

There are things windows 7 does I wish my mac did, but I find myself far more often wishing windows 7 did things my mac or linux computers did.
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Like what? I found expose to be useless personally because it was an additional step to finding the window you wanted.
 
the original core duo white macbook was my gateway drug. 🙂 i also still built and keep pc rigs, but i used to be so vehemently against the idea of apple anything - but now i just really enjoy the user experience.
 
When I got my MacBook, XP was still out, Vista wasn't released yet. The amount of stuff that I could do, with just 512MB of RAM, was astounding. Office 04 was open all the time, Fusion/Parallels was open with an XP VM running, all the time. Safari with 4+ tabs open, all the time. iTunes, Terminal, TextEdit, XCode, Eclipse, all open, all the time. Windows 7 has some nice features, but at the end of the day, I just feel like I can fit more on the screen, and get to it quicker, in OS X.
 
MJinZ said:
Like what? I found expose to be useless personally because it was an additional step to finding the window you wanted.
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cmd-tab is your friend. You can easily switch between open programs. Osx has so many shortcut keys if one were so inclined they could work completely without mouse for most tasks.
 
JSt0rm01 said:
cmd-tab is your friend. You can easily switch between open programs. Osx has so many shortcut keys if one were so inclined they could work completely without mouse for most tasks.
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Command Tab is identical to Alt-Tab. If I don't use it for Windows, why bother with OS -X?

Alt-Tab is pretty useless in general anyway.
 
Join the crowd. I always made fun of my wife's Mac (she uses it for her design work) until my company switched to them exclusively...and I had to use one everyday. I'm more than happy with them and now have a hard time feeling as efficient when moving back to a PC.
 
Ns1 said:
wtf kind of "power user" are you
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A control W one, and one that doesn't switch between 2 full screen windows back and forth (because that's basically the only quick and useful way to use Alt-Tab, or to exit to Desktop in a game).

I have all my useful windows open side by side on multiple screens.
 
Hmm.. I used to use Windows solely from when I was a teenager until about 5 years ago, and I much prefer OS X to Windows. I know I could find many of the same utilities for Windows that I've found for OS X, but I just prefer it now. I'm used to it, and I like it a lot. I think Windows 7 has brought a lot of what OS X has had for a few versions now to it's plate, which definitely is a good thing. I just can't switch right now. I feel so slow when I'm using Windows now.
 
MJinZ said:
A power user works faster than the computer in work flow. If the computer isn't fast enough, you end up waiting for it.

For instance you will find document management to suck hugely in OS X.

Window management is OK but is now inferior to Windows 7 which can easily bring things back and forth between layers for multi-tasking.

A few things you will find actually are the same, such as Ctrl-W (for close) is equivalent to Apple (CMD)-W, which helps with moving back and forth.

You'll see. I've personally owned a Macbook and helped others buy Macbook Pros. Fine for everyday usage, but not for the frenetic ones like me.
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What is document management? I find window management to be horrible. When you have more than 6 windows open, it takes a while to find what your looking for. So when you have alot of things open it becomes really cumbersome. Also internet browsing isnt as good due to flash sucking in osx. My biggest complaints, besides gaming and required dual booting.

I dont think i can handle it anymore, i have been watching alot of hulu and its so annoying to see such high cpu usage when its not needed. Dual booting to use office and gaming sucks. I gave it a year, with over 6 months of pretty exclusive usage with an open mind. But its window management just really doesnt cut it. Expose needs some refinement and there dock need some windows 7age. Along with steam and office 2011, and it could be on par or possibly better than windows.

A couple things i like is the universal top bar, didnt think i liked it at first but it was nice. Hiding windows command h, figured out i liked a dedicated mail client, mail or outlook. Sleep is much faster.
 
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