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I have $300. ATA133 raid or SCSi??? What to do?

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docgonzo

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I have some extra cash! and what better thing to spend it on than an upgrade! I am considering a raid set up with the Maxtor 80gig ATA133 since my motherboard has highpoint controller on board. But I have never used any raid device. I know SCSi is the good stuff but I am on a budget🙁 So for about 250-300 what direction do you all think I should go?

Or should I just put it in the bank and wait till I can afford ultra160 raid😉 Or should I go with a cheap SCSi raid like fast? and if so can you daisy chain SCSi and raid them? or do you need a dual channel controller card? or or or what to do😕
 
for 300.00 dollar budget
get two ide harddrives and raid them

1 scsi drive will cost you the same or more than as two ide drives and then you need to buy a scsi controller so add another 140.00 to 200.00 dollars

raid scsi cards start at 400.00 dollars and the better ones are 600.00 to 800.00 dollars
then you have to spent 500.00 dollars (total) for two scsi 15000 rpm drives or about 400.00 dollars for two 10000 rpm drives

the 36 gb scsi drives are even more 500.00 dollars for 15000 rpm drives 350.00 dollars for 10000 rpm drives

and for 200.00 dollars you could buy 2 40 t0 60 gb ide drives since your motherboard supports this already

and you never said what you would use it for?

one scsi 15000 rpm drive and a raid 0 setup would be nice but again out of your budget so again what would you want to spend and what are you planning on using it for?

hope this helps
 

I hate budgets... I would be using it for games mostly. Maybe some video editing. I would love the SCSi stuff, but for $300 bucks I think I could only afford the 20 or 40 meg/sec stuff, ie. fast or ulta SCSi. From what I have read the ata133 raid is around 40megs/sec (is that realistic?) Plus if I go raid, I can get more storage capacity then like 18gig SCSi. So I am leaning EIDE, but I wanted to bounce it off some one who has more experience than me. Thanks for the help!
 
seagate x15 36lp 18.4 gb drive 215 here a hypermicro one of the cheapest i've seen
and the 36.7 is 395.00

a seagate 10000 18 gb is 155.00 and 165.00 and the 36 gb is 279.00

maxtor 3 are 10000 rpm and are 18 gb 189.00 and 36 gb 299.00

also unless you go 10000 rpm drives or better you won't get better str's over ide but you will get the benifits of scsi

daisy chaining?
you can run 15 drives off 1 channel or 30 drives off 2 channels

here are some links to help you

link 1
link 2
link 3
link 4
link 5

these will help you in your quest🙂
 
For enhancing gaming and OS performance, you'd be better off getting the WD 1200JB than using RAID. RAID gives you higher STR for video editing and large file transactions, but the bigger cache and better firmware on the WD give you better performance with small files - which is where you're going to notice it.
 
If you're patient you can get in on some good SCSI deals from Dell Home and Small Office online store.

I got my Fujitsu 18 GB 10,000 RPM drive with 2 device cable and Adaptec 29160LP controller for a little less than $250 shipped a few months ago.

SCSI is so smoooth, I won't go back to IDE unless something drastic occurs. 😉

I use SCSI for my OS and games, IDE for general storage.
 
Some of my company's clients have recently started requesting the cheap DELL RAID IDE systems. Bearing in mind that most companies don't fill up their server disks before they go obsolete, the fact that there are many U160 systems out there with a single 32Gb 7200rpm HDD is plainly ridiculous. This is because even the latest 10K SCSI disks can't supply the data fast enough to the SCSI bus to fill up that 160MB/sec capacity. Neither can, to be honest, 2 SCSI disks. Now if you're looking at 4 disks, well that starts to make sense.

I know that some of my engineers (who are now well and truly fed up of me butting my head in on a regular basis, now I'm an 'expert' after having spent time on Anandtech... The boss has outgeeked the geeks, bwahahaha. ) have also played with ATA133 RAID, and the results they're getting is that dollar-for-dollar, the IDE RAID 1 option is pretty untouchable, while providing exactly what most people are looking for in a 2-drive setup - especially since there's no evidence to suggest that high quality EIDE drives are significantly less reliable than their SCSI counterparts.

Beyond this, the economics of IDE are outweighed by the advantages that SCSI provides in flexibility from a business standpoint.

I'd say that on a 2-drive RAID system, you're best off going IDE. More? Look to SCSI.
 
what the hell, go for IDE for storage space, SCSI for pure speed (120mb/sec is fastest but forget frickin' name of standard)#
80 to 100GB would be your range at 300 for IDE 18GB max for SCSI:frown:
 

Thanks for the help everyone. The debate is still raging in my head. TO SCSI OR NOT TO SCSI. that is the question. Is a one SCSI ultra 10k rpm 18gig set-up better then a 60-80 gig IDE raid set up? Hmmmm. I am leaning to the large storage space, but all I hear is, "Once you go SCSI you will NEVER go back..." So I am at a bit of a loss... I have read that to boot from SCSI the controller card needs its own BIOS, but my friend says that is not true anymore. Does anyone know? That would add to the expense and put the SCSI option out of my budget 🙁


Still shoppin!
 
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