I hate to say it but McClintock should just bow out now

[friedpie]

With many in the conservative movement from Issa to Sean Hannity endorsing Arnold, it's obvious that McClintock doesn't have the backing of the GOP. He has passed up for a celebrity.

I have been trying to figure out why the conservatives are so enamored with Arnold. My first inclination is they want a celebrity in their camp so badly they overlook the fact that Arnold isn't really all that conservative (pro-choice, pro gun control, etc.). But is that what it really is? Maybe they don't want a real contender in there because they know McClintock would never get anywhere with the liberal state legislature, or maybe they think Arnold will pull in a lot of undecides who might eventually switch over. I don't know.

Anyway, it's time McClintock bow out because he will cost Arnold the governoship if he doesn't. I'd rather have Arnold with all his inexperience and socially-liberal views in there than Bustamante or Davis.

 

[daniel1113]

Unfortunately, you are correct in that McClintock doesn't have a chance. However, I don't think it is because the GOP wants a celebrity to endorse. Rather, I think Arnold is the only candidate that the Republicans can win with, and even that may not be enough.

 

[daniel1113]

Ooops... I misread your post, so I pretty much just resaid what you posted

 

[DealMonkey]

McClintock will split the vote with Ahnuld. Excellent. The plan is going perfectly.

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
McClintock will split the vote with Ahnuld. Excellent. The plan is going perfectly.

Doesn't look to go for Cruz or Davis.

Arnold is pulling ahead reguardless.

Even though Mclintock is the overall is a better choice, i would much rather have Arnold in there than Cruz or Davis..

Tom already said he would not bow out however..

 

[Moonbeam]

Thousands of people voted for McClintock via absentee ballot. If he drops he wastes their vote. You Republicans who want him to drop out should learn something about principles and right and wrong. People who think like him are entitled to someone who represents their vote. You should ask yourself also how ethical it is that a recall that should be used to remove somebody for real crimes should not be allowed to be able to run to replace himself. The entire recall is a joke. If there is justice the recall will be defeated. If Arnold wins he needs to be recalled tut suite.

 

[LunarRay]

Moonster,
If ahold is elected I will immediately start a petition here..

 

[DealMonkey]

LR, yeah I think a great many people feel similarly. This republican-led recall effort will spur a tit-for-tat vicious cycle of recalls. Eventually, our governor will only serve for 6 to 12 months. The time between recalls...

 

[LunarRay]

Dealer,
I can get maybe 30 folks within an hour... so its a start.. Moonster has the commune he can canvass and you've got maybe a million or so... He's toast...

 

[Moonbeam]

Grasas roots democracy is wonderful. We'll get the recall on the net. Mail in recall signature will make it cheap. Maybe B Clinton should move here.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

No - McClintock MUST stay in. Arnold is pulling ahead in the polls, so if that is any indication of what will really happen - Arnold will win regardless of what Tom does. Tom is an upstanding man(as much as a politician can) and needs to stay with this or lose credibility. He promised he wouldn't drop out and if he hopes to move "up" in politics he must stay the course. McClintock will likely challenge Boxer, or even run for Govenor next time so he needs to keep his face front and center and follow through with this. Alot of Conservates need to have their voice heard in this recall, and sorry to say - Arnold isn't that conservative.

CkG

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam Maybe B Clinton should move here.

Don't for a minute think that is out of the realm of possibilities for him

CkG

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Moonbeam Maybe B Clinton should move here.

Don't for a minute think that is out of the realm of possibilities for him

CkG

Yeah, well you just repeated everything I said in my post without credit. so there.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Moonbeam Maybe B Clinton should move here.

Don't for a minute think that is out of the realm of possibilities for him

CkG

Yeah, well you just repeated everything I said in my post without credit. so there.

WTF are you smoking I quoted your sarcastic quip about Clinton - and basically said it wasn't without possibility. That is not repeating everything you said - it was only one statement.

CkG

 

[LunarRay]

McClintock will stay in because he knows that we will recall Swartzenhilda with in two weeks and since he can't run to replace himself it will be Davis and McClintock.. round about march.. if we can get it done fast enough..

 

[ReiAyanami]

they know arnold is one with the machines...

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: LunarRay
McClintock will stay in because he knows that we will recall Swartzenhilda with in two weeks and since he can't run to replace himself it will be Davis and McClintock.. round about march.. if we can get it done fast enough..

It would go very fast if we could get a wealthy benefactor (a la Issa) to pony up, oh, around $1.5M to $2M for an army of signature gatherers. A small price to pay for an endless cycle of recall stupidity.

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: LunarRay
McClintock will stay in because he knows that we will recall Swartzenhilda with in two weeks and since he can't run to replace himself it will be Davis and McClintock.. round about march.. if we can get it done fast enough..

It would go very fast if we could get a wealthy benefactor (a la Issa) to pony up, oh, around $1.5M to $2M for an army of signature gatherers. A small price to pay for an endless cycle of recall stupidity.

I'm certain there are a few thousand volunteers in California that will undertake the task. I now know of 32 folks who'd sign up. We'd need about 1.2m and I'll bet we can get that many in short order. Just to spite the Issa folks and Anurld.

I'd just love it if the recall fails.. so lets get every democrate to the polls. Drive at least 2 folks and call everyone you know. We'll win if we don't sit on our duff as they expect.

 

[sciencewhiz]

You guys are late. The recall campaign for arnold started this morning in the comics.

http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dailydose/index.html?uc_full_date=20030928

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
You guys are late. The recall campaign for arnold started this morning in the comics.

http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dailydose/index.html?uc_full_date=20030928

 

[Miramonti]

McClintock won't bow out.

To many of his supporters it would be unconcionable bordering on immoral for the only "pro-life" candidate to leave the field.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Moonbeam Maybe B Clinton should move here.

Don't for a minute think that is out of the realm of possibilities for him

CkG

Yeah, well you just repeated everything I said in my post without credit. so there.

WTF are you smoking I quoted your sarcastic quip about Clinton - and basically said it wasn't without possibility. That is not repeating everything you said - it was only one statement.

CkG

If something I say makes no sense to you remember it's because your nuts. Then go back and figure out what I must actually have meant, OK:

Me------->Thousands of people voted for McClintock via absentee ballot. If he drops he wastes their vote. You Republicans who want him to drop out should learn something about principles and right and wrong. People who think like him are entitled to someone who represents their vote. You should ask yourself also how ethical it is that a recall that should be used to remove somebody for real crimes should not be allowed to be able to run to replace himself. The entire recall is a joke. If there is justice the recall will be defeated. If Arnold wins he needs to be recalled tut suite.

You--------->No - McClintock MUST stay in. Arnold is pulling ahead in the polls, so if that is any indication of what will really happen - Arnold will win regardless of what Tom does. Tom is an upstanding man(as much as a politician can) and needs to stay with this or lose credibility. He promised he wouldn't drop out and if he hopes to move "up" in politics he must stay the course. McClintock will likely challenge Boxer, or even run for Govenor next time so he needs to keep his face front and center and follow through with this. Alot of Conservates need to have their voice heard in this recall, and sorry to say - Arnold isn't that conservative.

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
LR, yeah I think a great many people feel similarly. This republican-led recall effort will spur a tit-for-tat vicious cycle of recalls. Eventually, our governor will only serve for 6 to 12 months. The time between recalls...

Consider it's legal by law, and that you guys tried to recall Reagan makes it fine by me.

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Moonbeam Maybe B Clinton should move here.

Don't for a minute think that is out of the realm of possibilities for him

CkG

Yeah, well you just repeated everything I said in my post without credit. so there.

WTF are you smoking I quoted your sarcastic quip about Clinton - and basically said it wasn't without possibility. That is not repeating everything you said - it was only one statement.

CkG

If something I say makes no sense to you remember it's because your nuts. Then go back and figure out what I must actually have meant, OK:

Me------->Thousands of people voted for McClintock via absentee ballot. If he drops he wastes their vote. You Republicans who want him to drop out should learn something about principles and right and wrong. People who think like him are entitled to someone who represents their vote. You should ask yourself also how ethical it is that a recall that should be used to remove somebody for real crimes should not be allowed to be able to run to replace himself. The entire recall is a joke. If there is justice the recall will be defeated. If Arnold wins he needs to be recalled tut suite.

You--------->No - McClintock MUST stay in. Arnold is pulling ahead in the polls, so if that is any indication of what will really happen - Arnold will win regardless of what Tom does. Tom is an upstanding man(as much as a politician can) and needs to stay with this or lose credibility. He promised he wouldn't drop out and if he hopes to move "up" in politics he must stay the course. McClintock will likely challenge Boxer, or even run for Govenor next time so he needs to keep his face front and center and follow through with this. Alot of Conservates need to have their voice heard in this recall, and sorry to say - Arnold isn't that conservative.

What... no way! Huffington should stay in. So should the green guy. To suggest they should leave so McClintock (who should sell the mcck for an 'n') can win against Davis makes no sense. Arnouldstien should drop out Bustamonte wins and should be forced to resign before he takes office and be replaced by Davis who should appoint himself and then Bustamonte resigns and Davis becomes Govenor.

 

[DealMonkey]

Right, but Reagan was a freakin' muppet. I just don't know about McClintock. He's just so damn conservative and so pro-life and you know that don't play in CA. A true conservative (R) is simply unelectable in this state. As it should be.