I hate to copy and paste chain stuff from Facebook but...

[Markbnj]

Common sense, I'd think... nobody would talk like that to a professor unless they were dropping the class the next day. Besides, Einstein was a horrible student anyway.

My first thought was that no professor would fall into the "such a thing as cold" or "such a thing as darkness" traps. No professor of science or mathematics, anyway.

 

[Markbnj]

I stopped reading attentively, when the argument "cold doesn't exist" came up.

Of course cold exist. Cold is where heat goes to, to achieve a state of equilibrium. It's a relative term, much like hot. Hot isn't linked to absolute temperature, but to heat (- energy transfer). Something just a smidge above absolute zero can be hot, but most of the time, it will be cold, and be heated, by cooling the surroundings.

With this first argument being demonstrably false, I see no need to further evaluate the following statements.

Also, ban.

Eh, I'm no physicist but energy == heat, and "cold" is a subjective label for what a human perceives as a low level of heat energy. Is the word "cold" even useful in science? Anyway, can you say that something which is completely the result of a lack of something else exists? I've always operated on the assumption that in this dichotomy only "heat" was an actual thing, and cold merely its lack.

 

[Ichinisan]

I never post groan-worthy Facebook vomit...but this is sooo good!

"[Mega ultra groan-worthy Facebook vomit]"

:awe: :awe: :awe: :awe:

*facepalm

 

[disappoint]

I've always operated on the assumption that in this dichotomy only "heat" was an actual thing, and cold merely its lack.

While that is correct, it's interesting to note that approaching absolute zero requires the use of energy in the form of laser light. Most people assume lasers would add energy and therefore heat to a system but that is not always the case.

Edit: in case you want more info but don't want to bother looking it up, the laser light is used to slow the oscillation, vibration or movement of the atom, which cools it down. Remember heat is movement (for lack of a better term, I didn't look it up to dins the correct terminology, just going on memory which might be flawed).

 

[Murloc]

Einstein went to college before WWI - no professor would have been openly anti-religion.

and einstein was 1. from a jewish family 2. not so religious

 

[T_Yamamoto]

tldr

 

[akahoovy]

Hey OP lets do this for real. I'll play the professor and you play the student.

I like where this is going! I love role play! :awe:

 

[Soundmanred]

"I hate to copy and paste chain stuff from Facebook but..."
Is equal to:
"I'm not racist, but..."

 

[biostud]

Much better:

Ricky Gervais| Rumours on the Bible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9YzOkxB-Gc

 

[Binarycow]

Much better:

Ricky Gervais| Rumours on the Bible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9YzOkxB-Gc

That sums it up right there.

 

[_Rick_]

Is the word "cold" even useful in science?

That's what I was trying to explain.
Cold is very much useful in science, especially in engineering, as it is a state of low heat, compared to another state of high heat. Between the two, there is an energy gradient.
Cold and Hot are what makes turbines work.
Cold and Hot are what makes thermoelectrics work.
Cold and Hot are what makes refrigerators work.
As soon as you have more than a single measurement of heat, cold and hot become very interesting, as they are going to make a dynamic system. They are important concepts of heat, as they describe the basic relation between heat levels.

It's equivalent to saying "there is no less, there are only numbers!"
But numbers are only useful because we have this ordinal relation on them, otherwise they'd just be pointless.

 

[luv2liv]

Oh, more "science is based on faith" religious bullshit. Keep this ignorant crap in Politics and News.

amen! last time i checked a hotel bible, it wasnt written by Jesus nor God, and it wasnt even published in heaven. it was made in China. i wouldnt be surprised if they slowly changed the bible over years and then everyone will be worshiping Confucius or whatever

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Logic would dictate that if sin results from lack of faith, then those that have faith shouldn't sin. Of course this isn't true since the church has confession so that those that do sin can make things right again. Also many that don't have faith may sin less than those that do. The two aren't linked well.

It's a shame we can't just repeat the tests from the Bible for God.

examples:

Both of the bolded above are incorrect assumptions and the argument would be a logical fallacy even if they weren't.

First, sin does not result from a lack of faith but, from inherent human weakness. Second, those who have faith, still sin due to that same inherent human weakness. Third, a negative statement (lack of faith causes people to sin), can not prove a positive (faith prevents sinning) in any form of logical argument.

 

[Rakehellion]

You know that this never happened, right?

http://www.snopes.com/religion/einstein.asp

Common sense, I'd think... nobody would talk like that to a professor unless they were dropping the class the next day. Besides, Einstein was a horrible student anyway.

I talked to all of my teachers like that through grade school and in college. Get some balls, man.

 

[Rakehellion]

Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor’s brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?

That isn't how science works at all. You don't assume something to be true or false based on a hunch, you perform an experiment to test a theory.

If I'm a brain surgeon, I have to make sure that you have a brain before I offer any treatment. If I say I'm going to remove a tumor, I perform an MRI to make absolute certain you have a tumor before I cut you open. It isn't a guessing game.

That why you see a doctor and not a priest when you have a health problem, correct? One works on science and the other works on faith.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Bunch of rubes...

 

[raildogg]

Poor Einstein, he's runner up to god for the award of being most exploited for someone else's agenda. "Einstein dropped out of college" "Einstein wasn't that great at math" "Einstein believed in god." Etc etc. Whatever makes people feel better I guess.

Yes, "God" is used for our agenda all the time. Same goes for Christ. Same goes for science. Or whatever else. Yet, I doubt that anyone has any clue whatsoever about these people or topics. They are repeating what somebody else told them or what they read.

This is what we humans are - a bunch of repeaters.

 

[disappoint]

Hey OP lets do this for real. I'll play the professor and you play the student.

I like where this is going! I love role play! :awe:

OP seems to have made a run for it. I don't blame him. For sure he realized it wouldn't be so easy to try that with me. Offer still stands if he changes his mind.

 

[mikeford]

People with plenty of food, shelter, internet, etc may have no need for a god, but why the lack of tolerance to those that for whatever reason do need a god to believe as they wish?

 

[_Rick_]

People with plenty of food, shelter, internet, etc may have no need for a god, but why the lack of tolerance to those that for whatever reason do need a god to believe as they wish?

Because it is upon us to advance the human race, and to do this, we need to extinguish ignorance.

 

[Jeff7]

People with plenty of food, shelter, internet, etc may have no need for a god, but why the lack of tolerance to those that for whatever reason do need a god to believe as they wish?

Is it healthy for kids to retain an imaginary friend as they grow older, and increasingly believe that that imaginary friend directly influences their life and the surrounding world? Even to the point of basing real-world decisions off of what they think this imaginary friend wants them to do? (Just do what the voices tell you.)
What if they start listening to what someone else's imaginary friend is saying?


Or, a potentially dangerous example: Earth has been hit by large asteroids in the past, and small ones too. There was just the Tunguska Event in the early 1900s. The only thing that helped us out is that our planet has a lot of uninhabited area as a percentage of its total surface - it was just random chance that it didn't flatten a large populated area. The recent one that blew up over Chelyabinsk (fun one to spell right there) was another close call.
There are a few hundred thousand potentially dangerous asteroids in our orbital neighborhood.

If you're full into the "god has a plan for us/god loves us/god is benevolent" thing, then you may be prone to believe that none of these things will ever pose a threat, because your god won't let it happen. (Or maybe he will, because he might feel like punishing people because he sometimes totally loses it. At least he promised he wouldn't genocide us again using floods.) So you might therefore not want to invest anything at all into asteroid mitigation efforts. That's already got an uphill battle simply because the statistical interval of asteroid impacts is a good bit longer than a human lifespan, therefore "It probably won't kill me, so I don't care" is the usual mindset.
It's something that has a low chance of happening in your lifetime, but a high chance of happening period, and very serious consequences when it does happen.

 

[rh71]

as dumb as arguing politics or sports teams

 

[IronWing]

and einstein was 1. from a jewish family 2. not so religious

Give it time, we'll make Einstein a closet fundamentalist Christian yet!

 

[IronWing]

as dumb as arguing politics or sports teams

Einstein wanted the Badgers to win. That UK won is the moral equivalent of the Nazis getting the bomb first.

 

[88keys]

I'm astounded at the idiocy of the OP.

There might have been some people gullible enough to believe this 10 or more years ago. But who the fuck shares things like that without checking Snopes.com first?