I hate to copy and paste chain stuff from Facebook but...

Red Squirrel

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This one is pretty good. :awe:


Professor : You are a Christian, aren’t you, son ?

Student : Yes, sir.

Professor: So, you believe in GOD ?

Student : Absolutely, sir.

Professor : Is GOD good ?

Student : Sure.

Professor: Is GOD all powerful ?

Student : Yes.

Professor: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to GOD to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didn’t. How is this GOD good then? Hmm?

(Student was silent.)

Professor: You can’t answer, can you ? Let’s start again, young fella. Is GOD good?

Student : Yes.

Professor: Is satan good ?

Student : No.

Professor: Where does satan come from ?

Student : From … GOD …

Professor: That’s right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?

Student : Yes.

Professor: Evil is everywhere, isn’t it ? And GOD did make everything. Correct?

Student : Yes.

Professor: So who created evil ?

(Student did not answer.)

Professor: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don’t they?

Student : Yes, sir.

Professor: So, who created them ?

(Student had no answer.)

Professor: Science says you have 5 Senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son, have you ever seen GOD?

Student : No, sir.

Professor: Tell us if you have ever heard your GOD?

Student : No , sir.

Professor: Have you ever felt your GOD, tasted your GOD, smelt your GOD? Have you ever had any sensory perception of GOD for that matter?

Student : No, sir. I’m afraid I haven’t.

Professor: Yet you still believe in Him?

Student : Yes.

Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesn’t exist. What do you say to that, son?

Student : Nothing. I only have my faith.

Professor: Yes, faith. And that is the problem Science has.

Student : Professor, is there such a thing as heat?

Professor: Yes.

Student : And is there such a thing as cold?

Professor: Yes.

Student : No, sir. There isn’t.

(The lecture theater became very quiet with this turn of events.)

Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don’t have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can’t go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.

(There was pin-drop silence in the lecture theater.)

Student : What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?

Professor: Yes. What is night if there isn’t darkness?

Student : You’re wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light. But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and its called darkness, isn’t it? In reality, darkness isn’t. If it is, well you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn’t you?

Professor: So what is the point you are making, young man ?

Student : Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.

Professor: Flawed ? Can you explain how?

Student : Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good GOD and a bad GOD. You are viewing the concept of GOD as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, Science can’t even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing.

Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?

Professor: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.

Student : Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?

(The Professor shook his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument was going.)

Student : Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor. Are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?

(The class was in uproar.)

Student : Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor’s brain?

(The class broke out into laughter. )

Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor’s brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?

(The room was silent. The Professor stared at the student, his face unfathomable.)

Professor: I guess you’ll have to take them on faith, son.

Student : That is it sir … Exactly ! The link between man & GOD is FAITH. That is all that keeps things alive and moving.
 
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Zeze

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I received this crap back in AOL 3.0 days on my 28.8K modem. I was a pimple faced virgin who hardly spoke much English.

No joke, I was like 14.
 

Red Squirrel

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You know that this never happened, right?

http://www.snopes.com/religion/einstein.asp

Common sense, I'd think... nobody would talk like that to a professor unless they were dropping the class the next day. Besides, Einstein was a horrible student anyway.

I did not even think they were trying to make it look like it happened. It's just a fictional story, but I thought the kid's explanation was pretty good. I should have left out the part about Einstein since think someone just added that after.
 

Jeff7

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Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor’s brain?Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor’s brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so.
Nope, but there's sure a lot of evidence of it, and the evidence can be used to make testable predictions about the behavior of a system.

It's one thing to have faith in something that can be proven, though in that case, I would call it "trust" and not "faith."

Blind faith is saying that something which is inherently lacking evidence, or the ability to prove it, or the ability to form a testable hypothesis, is true.
Simple faith in the sense of "I have faith that <family member> loves me" is not a blind statement. There is a lot of evidence to back that up, specifically the person's behavior toward you. Or faith in the sense of, "Your blood contains many tiny cells." I've never seen a blood cell myself, but I'm trusting that I'm not being deceived in that matter.
I've never written a mathematical proof myself, and so have not spent dozens upon dozens of pages on this issue, but I'm still going to trust that 1+1=2. Within my comparatively limited exposure to mathematics, this does seem to hold true quite well.

The difference there is that, should I want to go about investigating these things myself, doing so is possible.
Also possible is that, through my investigations of existing knowledge, I'll find something that seems to be in error. If the scientific method is applied to these findings, they may end up becoming established as the new correct theory, and humanity's knowledgebase expands a tiny bit more.


Knowing that which can be proven, and which is based on evidence, is rational faith; simple trust that what you are being taught is accurate.
Knowing that which cannot be proven, and for which there is no reliable evidence, is blind faith; and yet this terribly irrational behavior is so often romanticized as a virtue by many people.





And now back to your regularly scheduled program.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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So, let me get this straight, people are dismissing the argument because Einstein didn't make it? I thought all nonbelievers worshipped logic? :D
 
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So, let me get this straight, people are dismissing the argument because Einstein didn't make it? I thought all nonbelievers worshipped logic? :D
Ugh... don't even get us started on the logic...

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JD50

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So, let me get this straight, people are dismissing the argument because Einstein didn't make it? I thought all nonbelievers worshipped logic? :D

People are dismissing it because it's an old chain mail that's been debunked countless times. Jeff just explained why the argument doesn't make sense, did you read his post?
 

OverVolt

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It was better when people didn't take this shit so seriously. Its funny without all the modern day slant to everything. People took this stuff like this wayyyy too seriously.
 

Subyman

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Poor Einstein, he's runner up to god for the award of being most exploited for someone else's agenda. "Einstein dropped out of college" "Einstein wasn't that great at math" "Einstein believed in god." Etc etc. Whatever makes people feel better I guess.
 

Rakehellion

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:rolleyes:

Oh, more "science is based on faith" religious bullshit. Keep this ignorant crap in Politics and News.
 

SP33Demon

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Go watch God is Not Dead is this interests you. More of a student owning a professor who is atheist and wants to push his agenda via a position of authority.

Neither would happen anyway due to today's lawsuit climate but it makes for good entertainment.
 

_Rick_

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I stopped reading attentively, when the argument "cold doesn't exist" came up.

Of course cold exist. Cold is where heat goes to, to achieve a state of equilibrium. It's a relative term, much like hot. Hot isn't linked to absolute temperature, but to heat (- energy transfer). Something just a smidge above absolute zero can be hot, but most of the time, it will be cold, and be heated, by cooling the surroundings.

With this first argument being demonstrably false, I see no need to further evaluate the following statements.

Also, ban.
 

JTsyo

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So, let me get this straight, people are dismissing the argument because Einstein didn't make it? I thought all nonbelievers worshipped logic? :D

Logic would dictate that if sin results from lack of faith, then those that have faith shouldn't sin. Of course this isn't true since the church has confession so that those that do sin can make things right again. Also many that don't have faith may sin less than those that do. The two aren't linked well.

It's a shame we can't just repeat the tests from the Bible for God.

examples:
Then Gideon said to God, “If You will deliver Israel through me, as You have spoken, 37 behold, I will put a fleece of wool on the threshing floor. If there is dew on the fleece only, and it is dry on all the ground, then I will know that You will deliver Israel through me, as You have spoken.” 38 And it was so. When he arose early the next morning and squeezed the fleece, he drained the dew from the fleece, a bowl full of water. 39 Then Gideon said to God, “Do not let Your anger burn against me that I may speak once more; please let me make a test once more with the fleece, let it now be dry only on the fleece, and let there be dew on all the ground.” 40 God did so that night; for it was dry only on the fleece, and dew was on all the ground.
—Judges 6:36–40

22 Then Elijah said to them, “I am the only one of the Lord’s prophets left, but Baal has four hundred and fifty prophets. 23 Get two bulls for us. Let Baal’s prophets choose one for themselves, and let them cut it into pieces and put it on the wood but not set fire to it. I will prepare the other bull and put it on the wood but not set fire to it. 24 Then you call on the name of your god, and I will call on the name of the Lord. The god who answers by fire—he is God.”
-1 Kings 18:22-24
 

disappoint

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Moron this in a moment but first, a word from our sponsor: Condom Burning Effigies. Condom burning effigies: because God loves you, but only if you practice unsafe sex with the opposite sex.

Hey OP lets do this for real. I'll play the professor and you play the student.