I hate the people in academia

[Dissipate]

The more time I spend in college the more I hate the people in academia. These people couldn't be any more petty, obnoxious and downright rude.

Usually it is not the professors who are like this (or at least I haven't noticed). Usually it is the T.A.s or the bureaucrats in the administration offices.

Just today I went down to go to a T.A. office hour in the math building. They put a bunch of the T.A.s all in one big room with a number of rows of desks. These T.A.s don't have their own office. It is basically just one big open space.

So I go down there early before the T.A.'s office hour. The reason why I did that is because often the T.A. is there before their office hour starts and sometimes someone will go there before the office hour starts and after I show up at the actual start time I have to wait to ask them a question.

I walk into the place and my T.A. isn't there yet. There is a small desk-chair at the side of the room away from the main desks, so I get out my laptop and wait while sitting in the desk-chair.

All of a sudden this T.A./grader asks if I am waiting for a T.A. and I say yes. He asks me what time the T.A. shows up and for what class. I tell him. Then he tells me that I have to wait outside because people have 'their offices there' or some such B.S. Nevermind the fact that I am in a wide open room minding my own business at the side. It is not like these offices are very private, and most of the time there are a number of T.A.s having really loud conversations in there.

Anyways, I ended up just pretending like I was going along with what this pr!ck was telling me.

Anyone else have any stories like this?

 

[shortylickens]

Remember, anyone who is surviving off the teaching industry isnt making it in the real world.
You know, where you have to be productive.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: shortylickens
Remember, anyone who is surviving off the teaching industry isnt making it in the real world.
You know, where you have to be productive.

Sorry, but without teachers, how could one have an educated workforce? They help the real world by all the work they do.

Plus, many teachers become teachers because they love to teach, not because of money.

 

[desteffy]

Originally posted by: shortylickens
Remember, anyone who is surviving off the teaching industry isnt making it in the real world.
You know, where you have to be productive.

People teaching at a college level are generally more productive than regular "workers", they do things like write books, write papers for journals and come up with new ideas instead of just doing work for somebody.

 

[Platypus]

Academia is an enigma that exists with it's own rules completely void of all reason and logic.

 

[Neurorelay]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: shortylickens
Remember, anyone who is surviving off the teaching industry isnt making it in the real world.
You know, where you have to be productive.

Sorry, but without teachers, how could one have an educated workforce? They help the real world by all the work they do.

Plus, many teachers become teachers because they love to teach, not because of money.

 

[Nebor]

You should have told that guy to suck a dick. What's he going to do?

 

[CrazyShiz]

Originally posted by: shortylickens
Remember, anyone who is surviving off the teaching industry isnt making it in the real world.
You know, where you have to be productive.

Remember, anyone who insults the teaching profession was probably too stupid to understand the truly unique ideas being presented in the first place.

But hey, don't let that stop you from being a corporate slave

 

[CycloWizard]

I had the pleasure of having to TA two classes that I'd never even taken. Not only that, but I didn't get paid for it. Not only that, but they were taught on a different campus from where I work. Not only that, but the people in my class that asked for help, causing me to take the shuttle from one campus to the other (30 mins each way) to help them, would rarely show up for appointments at times that they had suggested. Then, these same people gave me 0/10 on my TA review forms because I 'wasn't available.'

Students, teachers, professors, TAs, whatever - there are always some that will suck. The solution is to find someone - another student or a professor - that actually gives a rat's ass and will help you. These people will probably help you 24/7 and are usually the ones with their doors open. For me here, it was an older grad student who helped me through my first semester, when all of the profs made themselves very scarce.

 

[cyclohexane]

Originally posted by: Nebor
You should have told that guy to suck a dick. What's he going to do?

lol.

 

[neegotiator]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard
I had the pleasure of having to TA two classes that I'd never even taken. Not only that, but I didn't get paid for it. Not only that, but they were taught on a different campus from where I work. Not only that, but the people in my class that asked for help, causing me to take the shuttle from one campus to the other (30 mins each way) to help them, would rarely show up for appointments at times that they had suggested. Then, these same people gave me 0/10 on my TA review forms because I 'wasn't available.'

Students, teachers, professors, TAs, whatever - there are always some that will suck. The solution is to find someone - another student or a professor - that actually gives a rat's ass and will help you. These people will probably help you 24/7 and are usually the ones with their doors open. For me here, it was an older grad student who helped me through my first semester, when all of the profs made themselves very scarce.

agreed, I've had some professors/TAs who were kind and helpful, and others who sucked donkey balls. luck of the draw I suppose.

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: shortylickens
Remember, anyone who is surviving off the teaching industry isnt making it in the real world.
You know, where you have to be productive.

Sorry, but without teachers, how could one have an educated workforce? They help the real world by all the work they do.
Plus, many teachers become teachers because they love to teach, not because of money.

You're not sorry.
You are using the word to help defuse the argument you know I'll come up. The one you cant handle. Thats a common tactic of weak and weak minded people.
(I learned that in the real world, not in school.)

I have no doubt people like to teach. Good for them. It doesnt change the fact they still arent making it in the workforce. Whether they want to or not or are even able to is irrelevant. Thats another thing I learned outside of school. What you want and what happens are two different things.

So far as the educated workforce goes, very little of what they learn in school translates directly into productivity once they get jobs. Its all very nice theory and not much more. You learn how to be productive by doing it. Which means a little failure now and again, but thats also where a lot of learning comes.
For example, MOST successful bussiness men and women did not complete higher forms of education. They made strong companies by getting lots of OJT and taking risks. All the folks who did well in school are their bean-counters.
Now bean-counters are useful. Got to have lots of them. But their jobs exist because someone else was working at making things happen. Not theory.

That also helps take care of CrazyShiz's argument. The bean-counters are the wage slaves, fella.
Now, with the issue of my insulting the teachers: None of their ideas are unique. They have been rehashed to be more compatible to modern students over the years, but they come down from the school district which sets up their curriculum. The only way it could be unique is if someone figures it out for themselves and didnt share. Unique is NOT the same info passed out to millions of kids every year. Please see a dictionary for "unique".
So far as my intelligence in concerned: According to their system, I had a 150 IQ upon graduation. If you think thats meaningless then it only serves to reinforce my argument.

As often happens in such discussions, the opponents ignorance and stupidy causes me to make arguments that help reenforce and clarify my position. Thanks folks.

P.S. Another point that helps my argument: Employers care very little for degrees or education when hiring. They give jobs to those with experience. And also those who dont act like useless morons during the interview. But again, thats something that benefits more from experience than education. (I already know about the catch 22 regarding experience. No one needs to point it out.)

 

[FoBoT]

you have a problem with authority?

 

[CollectiveUnconscious]

Originally posted by: shortylickens
Remember, anyone who is surviving off the teaching industry isnt making it in the real world.
You know, where you have to be productive.

I have completed countless research for advertising agencies and the military, all while teaching college students the basics of social psychology. I would call that productive. I could easily leave academia and procure a job in advertising making 3 times as much, but I love what I do.

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: shortylickens

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: shortylickens
Remember, anyone who is surviving off the teaching industry isnt making it in the real world.
You know, where you have to be productive.

Sorry, but without teachers, how could one have an educated workforce? They help the real world by all the work they do.
Plus, many teachers become teachers because they love to teach, not because of money.

You're not sorry.
You are using the word to help defuse the argument you know I'll come up. The one you cant handle. Thats a common tactic of weak and weak minded people.
(I learned that in the real world, not in school.)

I have no doubt people like to teach. Good for them. It doesnt change the fact they still arent making it in the workforce. Whether they want to or not or are even able to is irrelevant. Thats another thing I learned outside of school. What you want and what happens are two different things.

So far as the educated workforce goes, very little of what they learn in school translates directly into productivity once they get jobs. Its all very nice theory and not much more. You learn how to be productive by doing it. Which means a little failure now and again, but thats also where a lot of learning comes.
For example, MOST successful bussiness men and women did not complete higher forms of education. They made strong companies by getting lots of OJT and taking risks. All the folks who did well in school are their bean-counters.
Now bean-counters are useful. Got to have lots of them. But their jobs exist because someone else was working at making things happen. Not theory.

That also helps take care of CrazyShiz's argument. The bean-counters are the wage slaves, fella.
Now, with the issue of my insulting the teachers: None of their ideas are unique. They have been rehashed to be more compatible to modern students over the years, but they come down from the school district which sets up their curriculum. The only way it could be unique is if someone figures it out for themselves and didnt share. Unique is NOT the same info passed out to millions of kids every year. Please see a dictionary for "unique".
So far as my intelligence in concerned: According to their system, I had a 150 IQ upon graduation. If you think thats meaningless then it only serves to reinforce my arument.

As often happens in such discussions, the opponents ignorance and stupidy causes me to make arguments that help reenforce and clarify my position. Thanks folks.

P.S. Another point that helps my argument: Employers care very little for degrees or education when hiring. They give jobs to those with experience. And also those who dont act like useless morons during the interview. But again, thats something that benefits more from experience than education. (I already know about the catch 22 regarding experience. No one needs to point it out.)

What exactly do you do?

 

[Shiizu]

We hate you, too

Seriously though... if it persists get a complaint on record.

 

[Shiizu]

Originally posted by: shortylickens
Remember, anyone who is surviving off the teaching industry isnt making it in the real world.
You know, where you have to be productive.

Scholarly productivity at a reputable institutio is absolutely ballbreaking actually.

 

[iamwiz82]

The only profs I respected when I was in college were the ones who were successful in their field and then decided to share their knowledge. I only had one or two career professors and they were useless.

 

[markgm]

I liked your response shortylickens. I have to agree that for most majors, what you learn in school has nothing to do with what you do on the job. At best I would say it teaches you how to think.

How many people here say that college was useful, but not from what you learned in class, but what you learned outside of it?

 

[BlueFlamme]

My favorite professor was an adjunct who ran his own communications company. The dean of our college of engineering would joke with him that he was teaching a business course since he incorporated so much real-world issues into the lectures (ECE 355 - Intro to Networks and Data Comm).

That course has helped me more in my current career than both of my graduate level networking courses (ECE 555 - Network Engineering and Design, ECE 642 - Computer Networking). The difference is that in the workforce I do not work for CISCO building the backplanes of a router, but instead am using best-business practices to achieve a real-world solution.

 

[Krazefinn]

Academia? I love those nuts...

 

[MisterJackson]

Those who can't do.....teach

 

[remagavon]

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: shortylickens

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: shortylickens
Remember, anyone who is surviving off the teaching industry isnt making it in the real world.
You know, where you have to be productive.

Sorry, but without teachers, how could one have an educated workforce? They help the real world by all the work they do.
Plus, many teachers become teachers because they love to teach, not because of money.

You're not sorry.
You are using the word to help defuse the argument you know I'll come up. The one you cant handle. Thats a common tactic of weak and weak minded people.
(I learned that in the real world, not in school.)

I have no doubt people like to teach. Good for them. It doesnt change the fact they still arent making it in the workforce. Whether they want to or not or are even able to is irrelevant. Thats another thing I learned outside of school. What you want and what happens are two different things.

So far as the educated workforce goes, very little of what they learn in school translates directly into productivity once they get jobs. Its all very nice theory and not much more. You learn how to be productive by doing it. Which means a little failure now and again, but thats also where a lot of learning comes.
For example, MOST successful bussiness men and women did not complete higher forms of education. They made strong companies by getting lots of OJT and taking risks. All the folks who did well in school are their bean-counters.
Now bean-counters are useful. Got to have lots of them. But their jobs exist because someone else was working at making things happen. Not theory.

That also helps take care of CrazyShiz's argument. The bean-counters are the wage slaves, fella.
Now, with the issue of my insulting the teachers: None of their ideas are unique. They have been rehashed to be more compatible to modern students over the years, but they come down from the school district which sets up their curriculum. The only way it could be unique is if someone figures it out for themselves and didnt share. Unique is NOT the same info passed out to millions of kids every year. Please see a dictionary for "unique".
So far as my intelligence in concerned: According to their system, I had a 150 IQ upon graduation. If you think thats meaningless then it only serves to reinforce my arument.

As often happens in such discussions, the opponents ignorance and stupidy causes me to make arguments that help reenforce and clarify my position. Thanks folks.

P.S. Another point that helps my argument: Employers care very little for degrees or education when hiring. They give jobs to those with experience. And also those who dont act like useless morons during the interview. But again, thats something that benefits more from experience than education. (I already know about the catch 22 regarding experience. No one needs to point it out.)

What exactly do you do?

He's a bitter poster on ATOT, of course. Shocking. Way too many people need to pull the gigantic stick from their ass around here and just lighten up.

 

[CrazyShiz]

Originally posted by: remagavon

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: shortylickens

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: shortylickens
Remember, anyone who is surviving off the teaching industry isnt making it in the real world.
You know, where you have to be productive.

Sorry, but without teachers, how could one have an educated workforce? They help the real world by all the work they do.
Plus, many teachers become teachers because they love to teach, not because of money.

You're not sorry.
You are using the word to help defuse the argument you know I'll come up. The one you cant handle. Thats a common tactic of weak and weak minded people.
(I learned that in the real world, not in school.)

I have no doubt people like to teach. Good for them. It doesnt change the fact they still arent making it in the workforce. Whether they want to or not or are even able to is irrelevant. Thats another thing I learned outside of school. What you want and what happens are two different things.

So far as the educated workforce goes, very little of what they learn in school translates directly into productivity once they get jobs. Its all very nice theory and not much more. You learn how to be productive by doing it. Which means a little failure now and again, but thats also where a lot of learning comes.
For example, MOST successful bussiness men and women did not complete higher forms of education. They made strong companies by getting lots of OJT and taking risks. All the folks who did well in school are their bean-counters.
Now bean-counters are useful. Got to have lots of them. But their jobs exist because someone else was working at making things happen. Not theory.

That also helps take care of CrazyShiz's argument. The bean-counters are the wage slaves, fella.
Now, with the issue of my insulting the teachers: None of their ideas are unique. They have been rehashed to be more compatible to modern students over the years, but they come down from the school district which sets up their curriculum. The only way it could be unique is if someone figures it out for themselves and didnt share. Unique is NOT the same info passed out to millions of kids every year. Please see a dictionary for "unique".
So far as my intelligence in concerned: According to their system, I had a 150 IQ upon graduation. If you think thats meaningless then it only serves to reinforce my arument.

As often happens in such discussions, the opponents ignorance and stupidy causes me to make arguments that help reenforce and clarify my position. Thanks folks.

P.S. Another point that helps my argument: Employers care very little for degrees or education when hiring. They give jobs to those with experience. And also those who dont act like useless morons during the interview. But again, thats something that benefits more from experience than education. (I already know about the catch 22 regarding experience. No one needs to point it out.)

What exactly do you do?

He's a bitter poster on ATOT who uses a high IQ as a shield against the idea that he may be wrong, of course. Shocking. Way too many people need to pull the gigantic stick from their ass around here and just lighten up.

Fixed

 

[judasmachine]

wow all this from a few self righteous TAs, sheesh you guys are harsh.