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I hate people, especially those who avoid jury duty...

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Originally posted by: goku
Originally posted by: ironwing
I sympathize with some folks trying to get out of it. Some employers will fire folks for missing work, regardless of the reason. Other folks don't get paid while on jury duty and really can't afford to miss the wages. My employer will cover wages during jury duty but this is probably the exception.
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Ok, well I was under the impression that was illegal. If it isn't, then it SHOULD BE.
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It is. Employeers must provide time off for jury duty.

I want to serve on a jury, I've got the notice a couple times, but have never had to show up.
 
Originally posted by: KarenMarie
I have never been called for jury duty.

But I think that juror should be a profession. I think juries would be a much more educated and aware lot if they were paid. They could get a training course on procedures and etc. to prepare them for their new profession.

I mentioned this to a judge friend of mine and he said that he wishes it was like that.
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That's an idea I have discussed with others as well. Also, imagine if juries actually had to have background knowledge concerning the types of cases they were going to have to sit in on?
 
i am 24 and i got my first jury duty summons a few weeks ago starting December 26th! FVCK THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i am sorry but not only do i not want to do jusy duty but i am supposed to be on call from after xmas to new years? no thank you! I am not even a registered voter so if i don't care about that why would i care about the jury syste, i don't complain about it and don't want to be a part of it. I also served in the USAF and so my public service is done.
 
I hate people, especially those who avoid jury duty...
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So, you hate people? That is anti-social attitude. Are you a serial killer?

Btw, not to be mean, or anything, but ur still an idiot.
 
I did grand jury duty which was easier since all we had to do was decide if the case was trial-worthy and we move onto the next one. Had us for 10 business days. Done for 8 more years. Trial jury duty with one case going XX amount of days is quite scary.
 
Originally posted by: I Saw OJ
Originally posted by: goku
Originally posted by: ironwing
I sympathize with some folks trying to get out of it. Some employers will fire folks for missing work, regardless of the reason. Other folks don't get paid while on jury duty and really can't afford to miss the wages. My employer will cover wages during jury duty but this is probably the exception.
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Ok, well I was under the impression that was illegal. If it isn't, then it SHOULD BE.
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It is. Employeers must provide time off for jury duty.

I want to serve on a jury, I've got the notice a couple times, but have never had to show up.
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Unfortunately employees still get fired for it. The expense of going after an employer for this is too much for an employee to deal with.
 
The way to fix the jury system is to either require businesses to pay people a full days wage for every day they are on the jury, or to have the government cough up that money instead of the measly $5 that doesnt even cover transportation costs to go.
 
Pff forget Jury duty. Ill be pissed if I ever get called up for it, since I work for an IT contractor there is no way I will get reimbursed for the time I missed. And what does jury duty pay? Minimum wage? ugh.

Just imprison or execute everyone and save us hard working people the hassle of losing money.
 
Originally posted by: KarenMarie
I have never been called for jury duty.

But I think that juror should be a profession. I think juries would be a much more educated and aware lot if they were paid. They could get a training course on procedures and etc. to prepare them for their new profession.

I mentioned this to a judge friend of mine and he said that he wishes it was like that.
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So who does actually sit on juries? Well, you have those not smart enough to figure out how to get out of doing it. And, if they aren't smart enough to figure that out, do you really want them sitting in judgement of a criminal case? Because that is how events like [a] mistrial occur. Then there are the under-employed. They have nothing better to do. Or the aged and retired. While smart enough, most seniors I know would have a great deal of difficulty understanding the technology involved in many trials today such as forensic digital analysis of a computer's hard drive in the search for evidence, which seems to have become an issue in many, if not most, cases these days. Then there's DNA evidence. As demonstrated in the OJ Simpson trial, with a mountain of DNA evidence conclusively demonstrating guilt, the jury simply didn't understand it and were left with Johnnie Cochrane's pithy but ridiculous; "If the glove don't fit..." nonsense.
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What would be the potential drawbacks of professional jurors? The single biggest -- and hardest to quantify -- effect would be a further degree of separation between most people and "The System." Jury duty, like voting, is often trumpeted as one of those rare, wonderful times when "the little guy" has a say and can make a difference. Take that away by establishing professional jurors and our societal sense of "civics" may diminish.

Might justice itself also be compromised by professional jurors? If being a juror is -- yawn -- an occupation, does it therefore lose its solemnity? Would full-time jurors come to grow cynical in their duties, as many seasoned attorneys do? In New York State at least, there is a flip side to mandatory jury duty: an equally mandatory waiting period: once you have served you must wait four years before serving again. There might be some wisdom in such a policy -- having the jury pool fresh and unsullied by a repetitive career of trial after trial.

Overall, a very difficult thought experiment. It would be fascinating to see a jurisdiction, even if another country, implement the idea, even on a trial basis (no pun intended). Perhaps professional jurors would only be used in certain specialized cases such as antitrust or involving expert testimony of some kind.

There's a thick fuzzy line between the current jury system being "imperfect" and being "broken." It's definitely one or the other. Determining which one would help in deciding whether a system of professional jurors is the correct solution.
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I was picked for Jury Dity and even got to sit up in front of the court until I told the prosecuting attorney in response to a question put forth by her stating-- as a juror the law says you must do this...will you abide the law and do this?

To which I responded...there are stupid and assinine laws in the books.

An hout latwer I was the first person removed from the jury before the trial....

Just a postlude it was a "spousal abuse case...with supposed witness intimidation.

The trial ended up in a hung Jury.
Obviously there were others who believed the same way I did but didn`t speak up!

Also finally the United States is one of only 6 nations with a trial by Jury system!!
 
This is the problem with jury duty.

you get called and told "report here on these days and sign in that you are here."
then you just sit around with a bunch of other people and do absolutely jack waiting for someone to tell you to go home.

i remember when i got called cases would span hours and then they would say. well we settle so everybody can go home. damn lawyers...........arg

biggest waste of time on the planet.

what ought to happen is an overhaul of the system and it ought to be.
alright we are going to trial and this is the day and all pleas have been useless.

ok lets call the jurors.

not lets call the potential jurors and have them sitting around waiting doing nothing until yall figure out if you need them or not.

crap

-fish
 
Repeat after me:

I am very certain the police would not arrest anyone if they did not have proof they were guilty.
 
I've been summoned once. At the time I was going to school part-time, working full-time, and had a new baby on the way.

Needless to say, there was no effing way I was going.

Now days, wife and I work opposite hours, there are now 2 kids, and $5 doesn't cover bus fare downtown, let alone the parking. Still no effing way I would go.

One of my co-workers got called and was out for 3 days and then wasn't even selected. Total waste of time.
 
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Also finally the United States is one of only 6 nations with a trial by Jury system!!
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Not sure where you got that information, but you might want to recheck it. There are many more than 6 countries with jury trials.

Aside from that - I don't know what the rules are everywhere, but where I live I can go volunteer to serve when it is convenient for me. I don't have to wait to be called and then say, "Darn! I can't serve at that time."

 
Originally posted by: ariafrost
Originally posted by: KarenMarie
I have never been called for jury duty.

But I think that juror should be a profession. I think juries would be a much more educated and aware lot if they were paid. They could get a training course on procedures and etc. to prepare them for their new profession.

I mentioned this to a judge friend of mine and he said that he wishes it was like that.
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Interesting idea.
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The problem is that then you get a biased pool, not a fair trial by peers (not that such a thing is possible anyway). Athens paid well for their jurors; so much so that there would be a line and it was first come first seated. Of course, their juries were MUCH larger. Vancouver WA is currently experimenting with paying minimum wage during jury duty. No data collected on it yet though.
 
I did jury duty earlier this year, I got lucky and didnt have to serve on a trial. All joking aside, if I was forced to serve on some trial, I'd have voted for or against, based on which one was more spiteful. :thumbsdown:
 
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