I hate it how Christians attribute random events of life to "miracles."

DainBramaged

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I had dinner with my grandparents and their friends whom they haven't seen in ages, tonight. The couple kept sharing these stories about minor, everyday events and then attritubed them to god. WTH...do they *seriously* think that god determines when their car tire blows out? Do they really think that it was God that made them run into an old friend that they hadn't seen in a year? Come on, these are seemingly educated people who spout this crap. I find it almost nauseous. My grandparents are getting a little edgy also, but the couple keeps doing it.

You know what? Here's some tap water, turn it into motherfvcking wine. Here's my friend with cancer, heal her. Here's my dead friend, raise him from the grave. Otherwise quit fvcking talking to me about the angels that you see. Come back to me when you quit hopping up on LSD. :roll:
 

yllus

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You should spend half an hour with a gathering of older age Muslims. Every second word is "Allah".

I don't begrudge anyone their worship, but lord does it get audibly tiring after a while.

Edit: Typo and clarification.
 

dxkj

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I hate how Heathens always think these 1 in 1,000,000 things that happen are just random, and not being directed by some greater power. Sure there is a chance that everything will line up and these things will happen, but for how often they happen, it is obviously a miracle most of the time.

 

TraumaRN

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*backs out of the thread very slowly*

Was gonna post something....but after the initial responses i'll keep my trap shut and just goto bed.
 

DainBramaged

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Originally posted by: dxkj
I hate how Heathens always think these 1 in 1,000,000 things that happen are just random, and not being directed by some greater power. Sure there is a chance that everything will line up and these things will happen, but for how often they happen, it is obviously a miracle most of the time.

There may or may not be a god; however, I refuse to believe in this divine intervention crap. It fvcks with free will too much and I'm most definitly not pre-destined to do something.
 
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Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: dxkj
I hate how Heathens always think these 1 in 1,000,000 things that happen are just random, and not being directed by some greater power. Sure there is a chance that everything will line up and these things will happen, but for how often they happen, it is obviously a miracle most of the time.

There may or may not be a god; however, I refuse to believe in this divine intervention crap. It fvcks with free will too much and I'm most definitly not pre-destined to do something.

depends on your view. You can have free will and still be predestined, at least within your own perspective
 

DainBramaged

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Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: dxkj
I hate how Heathens always think these 1 in 1,000,000 things that happen are just random, and not being directed by some greater power. Sure there is a chance that everything will line up and these things will happen, but for how often they happen, it is obviously a miracle most of the time.

There may or may not be a god; however, I refuse to believe in this divine intervention crap. It fvcks with free will too much and I'm most definitly not pre-destined to do something.

depends on your view. You can have free will and still be predestined, at least within your own perspective

Regardless, don't tell me that this bum talking to you was an angel sent from God when all he does is mumble a bunch of sh!t about Jesus' mighty power.
 

dxkj

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Originally posted by: DainBramaged
You know what? Here's some tap water, turn it into motherfvcking wine. Here's my friend with cancer, heal her. Here's my dead friend, raise him from the grave. Otherwise quit fvcking talking to me about the angels that you see. Come back to me when you quit hopping up on LSD. :roll:

Obviously you are well informed on how miracles work based on those last statements. :roll:
 

TimMyMac

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some people have trust in a higher power. When you know that power has control of your life, when've you've submitted fully to it. It's not a thing of possibility. Life happens for a reason.
 

DainBramaged

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Originally posted by: dxkj
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
You know what? Here's some tap water, turn it into motherfvcking wine. Here's my friend with cancer, heal her. Here's my dead friend, raise him from the grave. Otherwise quit fvcking talking to me about the angels that you see. Come back to me when you quit hopping up on LSD. :roll:

Obviously you are well informed on how miracles work based on those last statements. :roll:

Oh, and you are a miracle expert? Please educate me. Maybe you were placed by god in my life JUST FOR THIS MOMENT!!!11
 

chambersc

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Originally posted by: dxkj
I hate how Heathens always think these 1 in 1,000,000 things that happen are just random, and not being directed by some greater power. Sure there is a chance that everything will line up and these things will happen, but for how often they happen, it is obviously a miracle most of the time.

......riiiiighhhtttt

Originally posted by: mchammer
Way to tolerate others beleifs :thumbsup:

Do you know what tolerance is? Tolerance is respecting the right that they can say what they want. Qualifying the beliefs isn't beling intolerant it just means that one has a negative opinion of those specific beliefs. Think of tolerance as an abstract concept and specific beliefs as being able to be criticized.
 

upsciLLion

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Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: upsciLLion
The fact that you and I met in this crazy world, Andrew, is a FVCKING MIRACLE.

I wonder what god intended for us, David.

Big things. Specifically our big things. In each others' butts. LOL.
 

Armitage

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You always here it after some big accident "but for the grace of God, I would have been on that plane. It's a miracle!"

Yea - so what about the other 238 men women and children who were on that plane? Apparently it was His will to let them all DIAF.
 

Antisocial Virge

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Edit ^^^ Damn you!!

I like when they survive a car accident it was "God looking out for me". When its a drunk driver who kills their child its "the drunk drivers fault!!"
 

kindest

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its vastly entertaining to me at least.. when i help someone (work retail) and after like every sentence they exclaim praise jesus and say god has them on a mission to fix whatever.

usually the person is very happy.. so its all good.

 

mchammer

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Originally posted by: chambersc
Originally posted by: dxkj
I hate how Heathens always think these 1 in 1,000,000 things that happen are just random, and not being directed by some greater power. Sure there is a chance that everything will line up and these things will happen, but for how often they happen, it is obviously a miracle most of the time.

......riiiiighhhtttt

Originally posted by: mchammer
Way to tolerate others beleifs :thumbsup:

Do you know what tolerance is? Tolerance is respecting the right that they can say what they want. Qualifying the beliefs isn't beling intolerant it just means that one has a negative opinion of those specific beliefs. Think of tolerance as an abstract concept and specific beliefs as being able to be criticized.

So you don't think anti-gay protesters are intolerant then?
 

dxkj

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Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: dxkj
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
You know what? Here's some tap water, turn it into motherfvcking wine. Here's my friend with cancer, heal her. Here's my dead friend, raise him from the grave. Otherwise quit fvcking talking to me about the angels that you see. Come back to me when you quit hopping up on LSD. :roll:

Obviously you are well informed on how miracles work based on those last statements. :roll:

Oh, and you are a miracle expert? Please educate me. Maybe you were placed by god in my life JUST FOR THIS MOMENT!!!11

Nope, not an expert.

Just seems that miracles arent the type of thing to be performed on demand, I mean, I dont think I have the right to tell God to perform a miracle, do you?

 

DainBramaged

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Originally posted by: Antisocial Virge
Edit ^^^ Damn you!!

I like when they survive a car accident it was "God looking out for me". When its a drunk driver who kills their child its "the drunk drivers fault!!"

Exactly. WHERE WAS GOD WHEN OUR LITTLE GIRL GOT KILLED? I feel really bad for people when they die before there time. However, the reason that your little girl died was because a man drank too much alcohol and decided to drive and because he had too much alcohol he made an incorrect decision and plowed into your car. Life's a bitch.
 

DainBramaged

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Originally posted by: dxkj
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: dxkj
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
You know what? Here's some tap water, turn it into motherfvcking wine. Here's my friend with cancer, heal her. Here's my dead friend, raise him from the grave. Otherwise quit fvcking talking to me about the angels that you see. Come back to me when you quit hopping up on LSD. :roll:

Obviously you are well informed on how miracles work based on those last statements. :roll:

Oh, and you are a miracle expert? Please educate me. Maybe you were placed by god in my life JUST FOR THIS MOMENT!!!11

Nope, not an expert.

Just seems that miracles arent the type of thing to be performed on demand, I mean, I dont think I have the right to tell God to perform a miracle, do you?

Nope, especially since I don't believe in miracles.
 

dxkj

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Originally posted by: Armitage
You always here it after some big accident "but for the grace of God, I would have been on that plane. It's a miracle!"

Yea - so what about the other 238 men women and children who were on that plane? Apparently it was His will to let them all DIAF.

It was a miracle he saved one person. Maybe out of those 238 people, who freely chose to get on that plane, 50 of them were already saved, and going to Heaven, but if they had continued living they would lose faith and end up in hell.

These arguments are circular, waste of time for any of us to claim to know anything about this.... so I guess in the light of that, the OP is just as right as I am :)
 

DainBramaged

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OMG, latest quote. "Thank god that he sent me to Florida when he did. I wouldn't have learned HALF of what I learned about the antiques business and how to run my own shop had I not been in god's will right then."

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