I hate how the NBA draft sometimes plays out.

oiprocs

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Guys like Ricky Rubio and Hasheem Thabeet are purposely canceling/not scheduling workouts with teams they do not want to play for.

I just read an article on ESPN that pretty much states Thabeet's disain for playing for Memphis, and there was one last week that discussed how Rubio's "camp" was intent on having Ricky play for a team in a big market.

Fucking selfish retards. This shit happens every year, but it seems like it's more irritating this year because after Blake Griffin there aren't that many sure-fire players.

Just sign a 2 or 3 year deal, suck it up, get paid millions, and then sign with whoever the fuck you want.

I hope neither of these fuckers plays for the Lakers at any point their respective careers.
 

Vette73

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Don't know if the NBA is like MLB. But the Nationals did not sign their first round last year. So they got more option in this year first round. The person that played hard ball, he has to sit out 1 year and most teams will not offer much to someone like that.

Best picture of a crybaby ever is Eli holding up a Chargers uniform.
 

Hacp

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Don't know if the NBA is like MLB. But the Nationals did not sign their first round last year. So they got more option in this year first round. The person that played hard ball, he has to sit out 1 year and most teams will not offer much to someone like that.

Best picture of a crybaby ever is Eli holding up a Chargers uniform.

He just didn't want to end up like Ryan Leaf.
 
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I don't see a problem with players not wanting to play for certain teams, especially one like Memphis. As long as they aren't completely immature about it like the aforementioned Eli Manning, then I don't mind if someone refuses to work out for a team.
 

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The NBA is different than the NFL. In the NFL it goes completely by record (not counting trades & trade-ups). So the worse team in the NFL typically takes the best prospect.

The NBA has a lottery system where the non-playoff teams get increasing numbers of "chances" to take the best pick. It works out to where the worst team in the leage has a 25% chance of getting the number one pick. It's an interesting system.

As for these guys pissing and moaning on where they want to go...I agree. Suck it up and deal with your horrible million dollar + contracts. Play a few years and improve yourself, then really wheel and deal yourself in free agency to a better place.
 

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I think they should suck it up as well, just play ball. On the other hand I see why an athlete would not want to play for certain teams, they might feel like its going to put out their fire and ruin their image. Heck... some soccer players were called to play World Cup qualifiers for my country and they never showed because they thought the team has no chances.. why ruin our image internationally just to play for my country... yep all kinds of fine.. if I am not mistake they have to go to court and defend their actions.
 

Gibson486

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Originally posted by: vi edit
The NBA is different than the NFL. In the NFL it goes completely by record (not counting trades & trade-ups). So the worse team in the NFL typically takes the best prospect.

The NBA has a lottery system where the non-playoff teams get increasing numbers of "chances" to take the best pick. It works out to where the worst team in the leage has a 25% chance of getting the number one pick. It's an interesting system.

As for these guys pissing and moaning on where they want to go...I agree. Suck it up and deal with your horrible million dollar + contracts. Play a few years and improve yourself, then really wheel and deal yourself in free agency to a better place.

wow...he is going to a place that he does not want to be....and he will get millions....I work at a place i do not want to be....I will never get millions. Suck it up.
 

geno

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Originally posted by: Hacp
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Don't know if the NBA is like MLB. But the Nationals did not sign their first round last year. So they got more option in this year first round. The person that played hard ball, he has to sit out 1 year and most teams will not offer much to someone like that.

Best picture of a crybaby ever is Eli holding up a Chargers uniform.

He just didn't want to end up like Ryan Leaf.

Brees had no problem, but that's because he's a good QB, unlike Leaf.
 

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Nobody is stopping them from getting a real job where they want to live. No pity for millionaires who play their favorite game for a living!
 

Miramonti

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Cancelling workouts usually doesn't work for top players, they can get drafted by the team anyways.
 

lupi

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meh, if I was a high caliber player expected to go in one of the top spots, I'd have no problem not playing for a handful of teams.
 

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It's funny because if they were drafted by the top teams in the league, chances are they wouldn't get any major minutes. Yet when they can go to a team and prove how good they are with major starting minutes, and perhaps be the franchise player - they hate it!
 

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Originally posted by: peritusONE
I don't see a problem with players not wanting to play for certain teams, especially one like Memphis. As long as they aren't completely immature about it like the aforementioned Eli Manning, then I don't mind if someone refuses to work out for a team.

this.

who are you all to tell these guys what direction they should take their careers?
 

Homerboy

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Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: peritusONE
I don't see a problem with players not wanting to play for certain teams, especially one like Memphis. As long as they aren't completely immature about it like the aforementioned Eli Manning, then I don't mind if someone refuses to work out for a team.

this.

who are you all to tell these guys what direction they should take their careers?

Agreed 100%. If I was a highly sought out prospect for ANY job/profession, why shouldn't I be picky about who I want to work for or with? Since in the NBA they don't have complete control as to where they go (well they do, they can just choose not to sign) why wouldn't and why SHOULDN'T they be able to discourage certain teams from picking them up? It makes complete sense.
 

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Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: peritusONE
I don't see a problem with players not wanting to play for certain teams, especially one like Memphis. As long as they aren't completely immature about it like the aforementioned Eli Manning, then I don't mind if someone refuses to work out for a team.

this.

who are you all to tell these guys what direction they should take their careers?

Or instead of getting a fat check directly out of college with the risk of going to a less desirable team they could do the NHL/MLB path and play in regional teams for $20,000 a year until they get called up.
 

Gibsons

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Generally I agree; just take your million dollar paycheck and work hard, whatever team it is. Unless it's the Clippers...
 

Homerboy

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Originally posted by: Gibsons
Generally I agree; just take your million dollar paycheck and work hard, whatever team it is. Unless it's the Clippers...

Or try to get yourself on a bigger marketed, higher profile team and double that million dollar check via endorsements and product sales?
 

vi edit

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Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: peritusONE
I don't see a problem with players not wanting to play for certain teams, especially one like Memphis. As long as they aren't completely immature about it like the aforementioned Eli Manning, then I don't mind if someone refuses to work out for a team.

this.

who are you all to tell these guys what direction they should take their careers?

Agreed 100%. If I was a highly sought out prospect for ANY job/profession, why shouldn't I be picky about who I want to work for or with? Since in the NBA they don't have complete control as to where they go (well they do, they can just choose not to sign) why wouldn't and why SHOULDN'T they be able to discourage certain teams from picking them up? It makes complete sense.

Why? Because the NBA and the NFL are a business entitiy. They do what protects their interest. The drafts are structured as such so that weaker teams can rebuild and promote parity among the league. The are thousands of want to be ballers and NFL players. There's only one NFL or NBA.
 

dainthomas

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Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: peritusONE
I don't see a problem with players not wanting to play for certain teams, especially one like Memphis. As long as they aren't completely immature about it like the aforementioned Eli Manning, then I don't mind if someone refuses to work out for a team.

this.

who are you all to tell these guys what direction they should take their careers?

Agreed 100%. If I was a highly sought out prospect for ANY job/profession, why shouldn't I be picky about who I want to work for or with? Since in the NBA they don't have complete control as to where they go (well they do, they can just choose not to sign) why wouldn't and why SHOULDN'T they be able to discourage certain teams from picking them up? It makes complete sense.

It makes no sense, for the reasons dougp mentioned. These guys are all mercenaries anyway, and everyone's money spends the same, so why should they care who signs the check?

 

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If I were a young player about to be drafted, had a team preference or teams I didn't want to go to, and had leverage, you better damn well believe I'd use that leverage to go where I want to go.

The league's rules are for the league's financial benefit, I'd be watching out for my benefit as much as I could. That's pretty much how the free market works.
 

Homerboy

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Originally posted by: vi edit
Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: peritusONE
I don't see a problem with players not wanting to play for certain teams, especially one like Memphis. As long as they aren't completely immature about it like the aforementioned Eli Manning, then I don't mind if someone refuses to work out for a team.

this.

who are you all to tell these guys what direction they should take their careers?

Agreed 100%. If I was a highly sought out prospect for ANY job/profession, why shouldn't I be picky about who I want to work for or with? Since in the NBA they don't have complete control as to where they go (well they do, they can just choose not to sign) why wouldn't and why SHOULDN'T they be able to discourage certain teams from picking them up? It makes complete sense.

Why? Because the NBA and the NFL are a business entitiy. They do what protects their interest. The drafts are structured as such so that weaker teams can rebuild and promote parity among the league. The are thousands of want to be ballers and NFL players. There's only one NFL or NBA.

So the players should put the league before themselves? Until the league steps in and changes the "rules" (which I'm sure the NBA will... gotta love Stern), why shouldn't the player protect themselves, their pocket books and their own dreams and wants?

FYI, there's tons of parity in the NFL too.
 

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So the players should put the league before themselves? Until the league steps in and changes the "rules" (which I'm sure the NBA will... gotta love Stern), why shouldn't the player protect themselves, their pocket books and their own dreams and wants?

FYI, there's tons of parity in the NFL too.

Simply put, if the NBA didn't exist then these guys would either be playing some d-league ball for barely above minimum wage or some other profession that pays them a fraction of what they would make even playing for bottom end team.

the NBA doesn't exist as a courtesy to young men aspiring to be better basketball stars. It's there to make money.
 

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Originally posted by: vi edit
So the players should put the league before themselves? Until the league steps in and changes the "rules" (which I'm sure the NBA will... gotta love Stern), why shouldn't the player protect themselves, their pocket books and their own dreams and wants?

FYI, there's tons of parity in the NFL too.

Simply put, if the NBA didn't exist then these guys would either be playing some d-league ball for barely above minimum wage or some other profession that pays them a fraction of what they would make even playing for bottom end team.

the NBA doesn't exist as a courtesy to young men aspiring to be better basketball stars. It's there to make money.

This. I mean seriously, this is stupid. Out of college, most young professionals HAVE to prove they're worth the money, right? So why should it be any different for these kids? Come out, impress everyone on a bad team and then get max contract. If you don't like it, go play in Europe where things are completely different.
 

Homerboy

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Originally posted by: vi edit
So the players should put the league before themselves? Until the league steps in and changes the "rules" (which I'm sure the NBA will... gotta love Stern), why shouldn't the player protect themselves, their pocket books and their own dreams and wants?

FYI, there's tons of parity in the NFL too.

Simply put, if the NBA didn't exist then these guys would either be playing some d-league ball for barely above minimum wage or some other profession that pays them a fraction of what they would make even playing for bottom end team.

the NBA doesn't exist as a courtesy to young men aspiring to be better basketball stars. It's there to make money.

So those players can't aspire to make the most that is available to them? They must "suffer" (I use the term loosely) for the benefit of the league? "Take one or the team/league." Yeah... so many people do that for their employer.
 

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Originally posted by: scorpious
Guys like Ricky Rubio and Hasheem Thabeet are purposely canceling/not scheduling workouts with teams they do not want to play for.

I just read an article on ESPN that pretty much states Thabeet's disain for playing for Memphis, and there was one last week that discussed how Rubio's "camp" was intent on having Ricky play for a team in a big market.

Fucking selfish retards. This shit happens every year, but it seems like it's more irritating this year because after Blake Griffin there aren't that many sure-fire players.

Just sign a 2 or 3 year deal, suck it up, get paid millions, and then sign with whoever the fuck you want.

I hope neither of these fuckers plays for the Lakers at any point their respective careers.

I agree 100% , reminds me of Eli whining about only wanting to play for Giants.