I hate Dodge/Chrysler and would like to see them fail

[spaceman]

how about you?

 

[dug777]

Giants fan, so yeah.

 

[shortylickens]

OK, are we talking about cars or sports?
Or both?

 

[spaceman]

the cahs...automobiles

 

[boomerang]

Are you really, actually serious?

Thousands of people losing their jobs, potentially their homes, their kids college educations now questionable. The ripple effect of other businesses failing because of their dependency on the those wage earners. All the pain, anguish and misery would make you feel better?

This would be justice in your eyes?

 

[RichardE]

You wanna make people lose there jobs huh...

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: boomerang
Are you really, actually serious?

Thousands of people losing their jobs, potentially their homes, their kids college educations now questionable. The ripple effect of other businesses failing because of their dependency on the those wage earners. All the pain, anguish and misery would make you feel better?

This would be justice in your eyes?

Of course.

Should we bail out every mismanaged and unprofitable business?

Or should we let them fail?

How about the corner porn shop who can't make money now because of the web?

People, the whole point of a free market and capitalism is to compete. If the big three cannot compete, they need to change, or fail.

The main reason there is no innovation in US cars and no new US car maker in decades is because of the big three. They are, and have been for a long time a government endorsed triopoly.

I think it would be exciting to see the new auto companies that pop up in the wake of the big three's demise. Maybe, for the first time in 30+ years, the US can be proud of it's cars.

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: spaceman
how about you?

I try to limit my irrational hatred of corporations to Apple.

 

[spaceman]

every single person i know who has purchased a dodge..from the omni's in the 80s to cirrus in the 90s to durangos in the 00's has had nothing but trouble with them.
they make junk..i dont have any hard statistical data to link to but you wont have to google long to find it.
i loathe the dodge emblem, their patronizing commercials and slogans.

 

[boomerang]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: boomerang
Are you really, actually serious?

Thousands of people losing their jobs, potentially their homes, their kids college educations now questionable. The ripple effect of other businesses failing because of their dependency on the those wage earners. All the pain, anguish and misery would make you feel better?

This would be justice in your eyes?

Of course.

Should we bail out every mismanaged and unprofitable business?

Or should we let them fail?

How about the corner porn shop who can't make money now because of the web?

People, the whole point of a free market and capitalism is to compete. If the big three cannot compete, they need to change, or fail.

The main reason there is no innovation in US cars and no new US car maker in decades is because of the big three. They are, and have been for a long time a government endorsed triopoly.

You're missing the point of his post and my reply. This isn't about loans. He wants them to fail because he "hates" them. My response is geared towards that statement.

 

[Born2bwire]

Originally posted by: spaceman
every single person i know who has purchased a dodge..from the omni's in the 80s to cirrus in the 90s to durangos in the 00's has had nothing but trouble with them.
they make junk..i dont have any hard statistical data to link to but you wont have to google long to find it.
i loathe the dodge emblem, their patronizing commercials and slogans.

It's a car company, it's not like it snuck into your house at night and raped your dog.

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: spaceman
every single person i know who has purchased a dodge..from the omni's in the 80s to cirrus in the 90s to durangos in the 00's has had nothing but trouble with them.
they make junk..i dont have any hard statistical data to link to but you wont have to google long to find it.
i loathe the dodge emblem, their patronizing commercials and slogans.

Anecdotal data trumps hard statistics every day of the week, at least on ATOY anyway.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: Born2bwire

Originally posted by: spaceman
every single person i know who has purchased a dodge..from the omni's in the 80s to cirrus in the 90s to durangos in the 00's has had nothing but trouble with them.
they make junk..i dont have any hard statistical data to link to but you wont have to google long to find it.
i loathe the dodge emblem, their patronizing commercials and slogans.

It's a car company, it's not like it snuck into your house at night and raped your dog.

lmfao :beer:

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: boomerang

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: boomerang
Are you really, actually serious?

Thousands of people losing their jobs, potentially their homes, their kids college educations now questionable. The ripple effect of other businesses failing because of their dependency on the those wage earners. All the pain, anguish and misery would make you feel better?

This would be justice in your eyes?

Of course.

Should we bail out every mismanaged and unprofitable business?

Or should we let them fail?

How about the corner porn shop who can't make money now because of the web?

People, the whole point of a free market and capitalism is to compete. If the big three cannot compete, they need to change, or fail.

The main reason there is no innovation in US cars and no new US car maker in decades is because of the big three. They are, and have been for a long time a government endorsed triopoly.

You're missing the point of his post and my reply. This isn't about loans. He wants them to fail because he "hates" them. My response is geared towards that statement.

Ah. I see.

But his hate isn't making them fail. Mismanagement and the inability to compete is. I was addressing that.

Objectively, they should be allowed to fail. As long as they are subsidized by the government, there will be no new car companies in the US and that means no real competition within the US and little innovation.

 

[spaceman]

Originally posted by: Born2bwire

Originally posted by: spaceman
every single person i know who has purchased a dodge..from the omni's in the 80s to cirrus in the 90s to durangos in the 00's has had nothing but trouble with them.
they make junk..i dont have any hard statistical data to link to but you wont have to google long to find it.
i loathe the dodge emblem, their patronizing commercials and slogans.

It's a car company, it's not like it snuck into your house at night and raped your dog.

they are an inferior car company that needs to die.
they are purveyors of junk..
they manufacture brand new lemons.
they are the american yugo.
they need to DIE!

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: spaceman

Originally posted by: Born2bwire

Originally posted by: spaceman
every single person i know who has purchased a dodge..from the omni's in the 80s to cirrus in the 90s to durangos in the 00's has had nothing but trouble with them.
they make junk..i dont have any hard statistical data to link to but you wont have to google long to find it.
i loathe the dodge emblem, their patronizing commercials and slogans.

It's a car company, it's not like it snuck into your house at night and raped your dog.

they are an inferior car company that needs to die.
they are purveyors of junk..
they manufacture brand new lemons.
they are the american yugo.
they need to DIE!

Dude, seriously. Look up "irrational" and get back to us, k?

 

[boomerang]

Originally posted by: spaceman
every single person i know who has purchased a dodge..from the omni's in the 80s to cirrus in the 90s to durangos in the 00's has had nothing but trouble with them.
they make junk..i dont have any hard statistical data to link to but you wont have to google long to find it.
i loathe the dodge emblem, their patronizing commercials and slogans.

Oh, I see now. You hate them because other people have had trouble with their cars. Well, that's entirely justified. :roll:

 

[spaceman]

Originally posted by: boomerang

Originally posted by: spaceman
every single person i know who has purchased a dodge..from the omni's in the 80s to cirrus in the 90s to durangos in the 00's has had nothing but trouble with them.
they make junk..i dont have any hard statistical data to link to but you wont have to google long to find it.
i loathe the dodge emblem, their patronizing commercials and slogans.

Oh, I see now. You hate them because other people have had trouble with their cars. Well, that's entirely justified. :roll:

yes other people.
i wouldnt purchase one..........ever

 

[Born2bwire]

Originally posted by: spaceman

Originally posted by: Born2bwire

Originally posted by: spaceman
every single person i know who has purchased a dodge..from the omni's in the 80s to cirrus in the 90s to durangos in the 00's has had nothing but trouble with them.
they make junk..i dont have any hard statistical data to link to but you wont have to google long to find it.
i loathe the dodge emblem, their patronizing commercials and slogans.

It's a car company, it's not like it snuck into your house at night and raped your dog.

they are an inferior car company that needs to die.
they are purveyors of junk..
they manufacture brand new lemons.
they are the american yugo.
they need to DIE!

You never thought maybe it was your shifty eyed neighbor that did that to your dog. I'm jus saying you know, there are probably better candidates for what happened here.

 

[Bignate603]

Originally posted by: spaceman

Originally posted by: boomerang

Originally posted by: spaceman
every single person i know who has purchased a dodge..from the omni's in the 80s to cirrus in the 90s to durangos in the 00's has had nothing but trouble with them.
they make junk..i dont have any hard statistical data to link to but you wont have to google long to find it.
i loathe the dodge emblem, their patronizing commercials and slogans.

Oh, I see now. You hate them because other people have had trouble with their cars. Well, that's entirely justified. :roll:

yes other people.
i wouldnt purchase one..........ever

Then don't. That's fine, but right now you sound like a nutjob.

 

[DomS]

DODGE RAM CHALLENGE....NEVER BACK DOWN!!

IT'S THE COWBOYS VS. THE CONTRACTORS VS. FIREMEN VS. PEDOPHILES VS. ARMY

seriously though, toyota, nissan, honda, they're talking mainly about quality, warranties, dependability. Dodge has a shitty series of commercials with a horrible aerosmith song in a long line of horrible aerosmith songs.

 

[moshquerade]

I'd rather they didn't fail, but it's all their own stupidity, cheapness, greed, and unions that got them where they are.

 

[phreaqe]

i dont want them to, i love jeeps. if jeeps went away i think i would shed a tear.

 

[vshah]

Originally posted by: spaceman
every single person i know who has purchased a dodge..from the omni's in the 80s to cirrus in the 90s to durangos in the 00's has had nothing but trouble with them.
they make junk..i dont have any hard statistical data to link to but you wont have to google long to find it.
i loathe the dodge emblem, their patronizing commercials and slogans.

would you take a dodge viper if someone offered it to you for free?

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Originally posted by: spaceman
every single person i know who has purchased a dodge..from the omni's in the 80s to cirrus in the 90s to durangos in the 00's has had nothing but trouble with them.
they make junk..i dont have any hard statistical data to link to but you wont have to google long to find it.
i loathe the dodge emblem, their patronizing commercials and slogans.

Well I bought a Toyota based on their "superior" quality and frankly I had less issues with our dodge mini van than the toyota. The dodge went into the shop 1 time in 3 years. The toyota has been in 5 times in less than a year.

The American car companies products have vastly improved, so much so that I believe that their offering are on par with, if not better than the Japanese or other similar mfgers.
The new Dodge Ram is a sweet truck. I've hated the Ram for as long as I can remember, but I checked out the 09 and it is a sweet truck. Dodge may be the bottom of the big 3 but they can at least make a truck. No one outside of the US can design and produce a truck that can match or beat a Chevy or Ford or even a Dodge truck.

As far as cars go, The new Malibu, and some of the Saturns are very nice cars that are way better than the boring and no longer reliable Camry or Accord.
It used to be I saw Ford, Chevy, and Dodge cars broken down on the side of the highway. Now I see Hondas and Toyotas all over the place.