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TitanDiddly

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Originally posted by: SampSon
your argument is ridiculous. it is no more greedy for a consumer to want the most value for their dollar than it is for a company to want to maximize their profit.
No, it's not ridiculous. You're missing the point. The comsumer expect, hell they even feel entitled, to fares so low that airlines cannot even stay afloat. Sure consumers should get the most bang for their buck, but they shouldn't be able to fly across the country for $99 round trip. The consumers demanding unsustainable fares and the loads of websites that cater to this mentality by searching all flights by the lowest fare first. Then when the service sucks, or they get hit with fees, or the food sucks, or the whole experience just "isn't what it used to be", they actually have the gall to bitch about it. Well you get what you pay for, you want to pay next to nothing to fly, expect next to nothing.

I've quickly learned that SampSon is a total moron.
Why? Because you're carrying a grudge when I was arguing with you in another thread? I do throughly apologize for being correct while you are wrong too many times.

$320 for a roundtrip ticket is nowhere cheap.

Tip for the OP. I use the search engines all the time to purchase my tickets and when I do find one that's really cheap, I buy it directly from the airline's website. Last month, I got roundtrip tickets from DC to Texas for $103 + tax each.
No, $320 roundtrip is a realistic price for airline fares. At $103 per ticket, that airline is losing money everytime that jet takes off. The only reason they offer it is because people demand incredibly low prices and there will be someone there to offer low quality product for low prices (think Wal-Mart). So the consumer starts a price war that causes airline companies to lose massive amounts of money just to draw in customers. Sounds like a great deal for the consumer, if you want to fly like cattle.

Have you taken an introductor economics course?

Flying like cattle > not flying. Not everyone can afford the luxuries of paying for first-class as a donation to the airline.
 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: TitanDiddly
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: SampSon
Here is the real problem.
You (and not just you, but most of America) are a bunch of cheap skates that use services like priceline and orbitz to get moronically cheap rates and stick it to airline companies.
Cutting all the corners you can while bitching about horrible service and extra fees. Makes sense...
It's amazing that any airlines can actually stay afloat, let alone turn a profit with these bargain hunting services everyone flocks to these days.

You can thank these sites and the consumer demand for unrealistic, unsustainable fares that require airlines to cut every corner possible and apply incredible fees like these.
Flying shouldn't be cheap, I don't understand why everyone expects it to be.

But anyway, that sucks, next time deal directly with the airline and cut out the middle man.

$320 for a roundtrip ticket is nowhere cheap.

Tip for the OP. I use the search engines all the time to purchase my tickets and when I do find one that's really cheap, I buy it directly from the airline's website. Last month, I got roundtrip tickets from DC to Texas for $103 + tax each.


Nice. How far in advance?

Update- just did my change directly through AA. $170.

About a month
 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: SampSon
your argument is ridiculous. it is no more greedy for a consumer to want the most value for their dollar than it is for a company to want to maximize their profit.
No, it's not ridiculous. You're missing the point. The comsumer expect, hell they even feel entitled, to fares so low that airlines cannot even stay afloat. Sure consumers should get the most bang for their buck, but they shouldn't be able to fly across the country for $99 round trip. The consumers demanding unsustainable fares and the loads of websites that cater to this mentality by searching all flights by the lowest fare first. Then when the service sucks, or they get hit with fees, or the food sucks, or the whole experience just "isn't what it used to be", they actually have the gall to bitch about it. Well you get what you pay for, you want to pay next to nothing to fly, expect next to nothing.

I've quickly learned that SampSon is a total moron.
Why? Because you're carrying a grudge when I was arguing with you in another thread? I do throughly apologize for being correct while you are wrong too many times.

$320 for a roundtrip ticket is nowhere cheap.

Tip for the OP. I use the search engines all the time to purchase my tickets and when I do find one that's really cheap, I buy it directly from the airline's website. Last month, I got roundtrip tickets from DC to Texas for $103 + tax each.
No, $320 roundtrip is a realistic price for airline fares. At $103 per ticket, that airline is losing money everytime that jet takes off. The only reason they offer it is because people demand incredibly low prices and there will be someone there to offer low quality product for low prices (think Wal-Mart). So the consumer starts a price war that causes airline companies to lose massive amounts of money just to draw in customers. Sounds like a great deal for the consumer, if you want to fly like cattle.

I flew on Midwest airlines which had comfortable business class type seats throughout the cabin. We're talking 2 seats on each side that had plenty of leg room and were leather. Regardless, $320 is very expensive and way over priced. A reasonable price would be around $200-250 at most for a domestic flight.
 

skim milk

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United just made me pay 1800 for a one way ticket to the U.S. from Asia.

I have to pay that much because I purchased a ticket for a $1000 to return to the U.S. but had to make changes. Since it's nonrefundable, only exchangeable, I got screwed.

I'm throwing away about $600 that I can save by purchasing the ticket with a different airline
I hate airlines, too.
$1800 for a one way international ticket is damn insane but i'm left with no choice :|
 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: fritolays
United just made me pay 1800 for a one way ticket to the U.S. from Asia.

I have to pay that much because I purchased a ticket for a $1000 to return to the U.S. but had to make changes. Since it's nonrefundable, only exchangeable, I got screwed.

I'm throwing away about $600 that I can save by purchasing the ticket with a different airline
I hate airlines, too.
$1800 for a one way international ticket is damn insane but i'm left with no choice :|

Which part of Asia? The most I've ever paid for a round trip was $1400 and the lowest I've paid is around $900. That's not counting standby tickets I get through my wifes cousin :) For those, it came out to a few hundred bucks for a roundtrip ticket.
 

skim milk

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Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: fritolays
United just made me pay 1800 for a one way ticket to the U.S. from Asia.

I have to pay that much because I purchased a ticket for a $1000 to return to the U.S. but had to make changes. Since it's nonrefundable, only exchangeable, I got screwed.

I'm throwing away about $600 that I can save by purchasing the ticket with a different airline
I hate airlines, too.
$1800 for a one way international ticket is damn insane but i'm left with no choice :|

Which part of Asia? The most I've ever paid for a round trip was $1400 and the lowest I've paid is around $900. That's not counting standby tickets I get through my wifes cousin :) For those, it came out to a few hundred bucks for a roundtrip ticket.


Beijing China

Apparently August is the hot season and the tickets are in demand
$1,800 is an insane amount of money to me.. for a one way ticket, I could've purchased a student ticket for less than a $1K if I wasn't tied to united the bastards.
 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: fritolays
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: fritolays
United just made me pay 1800 for a one way ticket to the U.S. from Asia.

I have to pay that much because I purchased a ticket for a $1000 to return to the U.S. but had to make changes. Since it's nonrefundable, only exchangeable, I got screwed.

I'm throwing away about $600 that I can save by purchasing the ticket with a different airline
I hate airlines, too.
$1800 for a one way international ticket is damn insane but i'm left with no choice :|

Which part of Asia? The most I've ever paid for a round trip was $1400 and the lowest I've paid is around $900. That's not counting standby tickets I get through my wifes cousin :) For those, it came out to a few hundred bucks for a roundtrip ticket.


Beijing China

Apparently August is the hot season and the tickets are in demand
$1,800 is an insane amount of money to me.. for a one way ticket, I could've purchased a student ticket for less than a $1K if I wasn't tied to united the bastards.

That's weird. For Asia, I go to India and even during peak travel times I've only paid $1400 at most. Did you use a travel agent or did you go through the airline itself? When I fly internationally, I always use a travel agent because they can get me a better deal that fits my needs.
 

skim milk

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Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: fritolays
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: fritolays
United just made me pay 1800 for a one way ticket to the U.S. from Asia.

I have to pay that much because I purchased a ticket for a $1000 to return to the U.S. but had to make changes. Since it's nonrefundable, only exchangeable, I got screwed.

I'm throwing away about $600 that I can save by purchasing the ticket with a different airline
I hate airlines, too.
$1800 for a one way international ticket is damn insane but i'm left with no choice :|

Which part of Asia? The most I've ever paid for a round trip was $1400 and the lowest I've paid is around $900. That's not counting standby tickets I get through my wifes cousin :) For those, it came out to a few hundred bucks for a roundtrip ticket.


Beijing China

Apparently August is the hot season and the tickets are in demand
$1,800 is an insane amount of money to me.. for a one way ticket, I could've purchased a student ticket for less than a $1K if I wasn't tied to united the bastards.

That's weird. For Asia, I go to India and even during peak travel times I've only paid $1400 at most. Did you use a travel agent or did you go through the airline itself? When I fly internationally, I always use a travel agent because they can get me a better deal that fits my needs.

Well, I originally paid about $1000 to return to the U.S. (which was the lowest price I could find on the net)... I bought the tickets. (non-refundable)

I then had to make changes to the originating city and departure date, and since I have already paid $1000 to united, I figured I would just pay the difference. (It's also non-refundable, non transferable, and I didn't want the ticket to go to waste)
The cheapest united would give me was $1800.. I paid $800 extra in difference.
I can find the flight for about $1,000 elsewhere, maybe even cheaper at a travel agency

I feel like I got ripped off on many levels, I know there are much cheaper tickets out there but I can't do anything. I makes me sick to my stomach. Lesson learned