I had always thought the XP password system was somewhat secure...

Sukhoi

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Pop in a little ERD Commander CD, and *presto* you have admin access! I'm surprised I hadn't heard of that until Wednesday.
 
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:confused:

Hi, and welcome to 1993 (Windows NT release)

Screw ERD, I can bust one in under 30 seconds with Linux on a stick and ntpasswd.

- M4H
 

yowolabi

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The truth has always been and will always be that if you have physical access to a computer, you can probably get into it.
 

MrWizzard

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Uh it is somewhat secure, most people don't know how to use that.

Just like all alarms can be cracked all locks picked ETC.

General public does not know how to get around it or does not want to go threw the trouble.
 

KrillBee

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correct me if im wrong, but,
if you reset the admin password, you can get access to anyone's files on that machine, right?
 
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Originally posted by: KrillBee
correct me if im wrong, but,
if you reset the admin password, you can get access to anyone's files on that machine, right?

/not correcting you, since you're not wrong

- M4H
 

tweakmm

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If someone has physical access to something, with the proper knowlege and resources, it's possible to break into anything.
 

Phoenix86

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Originally posted by: Sukhoi
Pop in a little ERD Commander CD, and *presto* you have admin access! I'm surprised I hadn't heard of that until Wednesday.

Physical access is the highest level of security.

edit: bah, beaten by over 10 minutes. :(
 

yowolabi

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Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: Sukhoi
Pop in a little ERD Commander CD, and *presto* you have admin access! I'm surprised I hadn't heard of that until Wednesday.

Physical access is the highest level of security.

edit: bah, beaten by over 10 minutes. :(

Actually you were beaten by 4 hours :)
 

Turin39789

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I forget the 6 key combination from my novell internship, but if you have physical access to a novell server, at least back in 00, you just pressed those keys and it would reset the admin pass or at least let you in.
 

KrillBee

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: KrillBee
correct me if im wrong, but,
if you reset the admin password, you can get access to anyone's files on that machine, right?

/not correcting you, since you're not wrong

- M4H

hmm, it just amazes me how unsecure windows computers are :)

unless you use a good encryption program or something,
 

her209

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HAHAHA... if I had physical access to a critical server, I can DoS the thing without having any knowledge. Just unplug it. :laugh:
 

Matthias99

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Originally posted by: KrillBee
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: KrillBee
correct me if im wrong, but,
if you reset the admin password, you can get access to anyone's files on that machine, right?

/not correcting you, since you're not wrong

- M4H

hmm, it just amazes me how unsecure windows computers are :)

unless you use a good encryption program or something,

If your data's not encrypted, and the attacker has physical access to the system, they can just yank the hard drive, mount it in another system, and read whatever data they want.

It's easier to get admin access to the install on Windows than some other OSes, but you can break into a Linux/UNIX machine as well pretty easily. The password encryption algorithms are known, and generally are not strong enough to keep out an attacker indefinitely. This is deliberate, so that it's not possible to permanently lock yourself out of your own system if you forget the root password.