I had 3 problems, 1. the computer would freezup. 2. It did not let me restore Norton Ghost backups I have questins.

TungFree

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On my 3 year old "IWill kk266-R" Motherboard My heatsink fan died.
I had 3 problems, prior to discovering the fan dies 1. the computer would freezup. and only a "Ctrl-Alt-Del" would unfreez it

2. It did not let me restore Norton Ghost backups, it griped even when I mirror copied The C: drive to the D: drive. Saying it had too little paging memeory, but no increases of paging memory would change the griping and left me without being able to use that copied drive to boot from or from any restored copy.

3 Finally the computer gave a blue screen and an autoreboot that got me looking inside it, and found the fan was dead.

A. My first thought is to try and get a new fan only ( a 60mm x 60mm x 10mm .25A fan) but I cannot find a vener who has those alone, they want to sell me the entire heatsink and fan.

B. My Second thought is could I use a 12" home cooling fan to cool the CPU and see if it stops freezing up and/or lets me rwestore Norton Ghost files that work without griping.

C. If my CPU is fried should I upgrade the fastest CPU My board can take or get a modern board and spend for new COU with Hewatsink Fan and get all new Memory The motherboard can handle.
I am not a game player I do not overclock.

What is your suggestion to me?
 

TungFree

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I just put a 12 inch fan on my processor's heatsink and am posting this with that computer. I am testing to see if my processor willrequire the "ctrl-alt-del" to unfreeze frezes or if the fan indeed was my source of that problem.

If anyone knows where Ican get just a fan without a heaatsink for my 1.333 ghz socket "A" Athlon 60mm x 60mm x 10mm .25A current fan please list a link I can purchase a heatsink for a socket A chip up to 2.8 GHZ Athlon with a 60mm x 60mm x 13mm and it looks very similar to mine but the fan is 3mm deeper and I am not 100% certain the heatsink will sit right on it, they are borth from Cool Master.

So far it looks lkike my freezes have stopped so my former problems appear to have been from the fan going out (maybe it intermitently went out and kicked in snd hence did not fry my CPU.)

I Am still interested in any inputs of the answers to my questions.


 

Davegod

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A. Unless you live somewhere with a REALLY small computing scene, i'd be more than a little surprised if you couldnt find a 60mm fan at the first e-tailer you looked at. If all else fails try some cheap but decent heatsink-fan like one of those Speeze jobs.

B. erm, dont mess about with your backup files while the comp is going nuts - its like wobbling the ladder you're standing on because it feels a bit unstable. I cant fathom why youre messing with them anyway, the problem seems to be the cpu overheating, so fix that and THEN mess with ghost backups if you need to.

C. I've no idea what cpu or ram you have, nor either what your computing needs are or what your cash situation is like, so cannot possibly answer C. Since your computer is working enough to get into the forums i suspect it's just you need to replace the fan - or possibly restore a ghost backup / fresh OS install because it's not uncommon for a overheating cpu to mess up data on hard drives.
 

TungFree

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B. erm, dont mess about with your backup files while the comp is going nuts - its like wobbling the ladder you're standing on because it feels a bit unstable. I cant fathom why youre messing with them anyway, the problem seems to be the cpu overheating, so fix that and THEN mess with ghost backups if you need to.
I have a large 12 inch home fan cooling the heatsink and it is doing a good job because the ctrl-alt-del buttons did not need to be pressed every few minutes. However I tried once again to mirror copy my C: Partition on one 160 gig hard drive to the D: partition of another 160 gig hard drive where the boot partitions were both 40 gig (C and D both) The drive copies but the new drive goes part way to the booting process makes the Microsoft Windows music sound then goes into a repeating loop of boot save and plays that music over and over as it repeats the look every 15 seconds or so. While the original C drive boots up fine. I even tried reversing the Drive belts in my promise card.

Now why won't an exact Mirror image boot up LOL? interesting question.

I did order a heatsink that was selling with the same processor I have on sale, for 13 dollars and more than that gain for shipping. I may just unscrew the fan off of the new one anjd screw it into my present heatsink. The 2 look alike on the picture. except that my old fan was 10 mm thick and the new one is 13, maybe it is sturdier. It seems to be approved by AMD for my chip and twice the speed of mine too.

 

TungFree

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C. I've no idea what cpu or ram you have, nor either what your computing needs are or what your cash situation is like, so cannot possibly answer C. Since your computer is working enough to get into the forums i suspect it's just you need to replace the fan - or possibly restore a ghost backup / fresh OS install because it's not uncommon for a overheating cpu to mess up data on hard drives.
I have presaently Iwill kk266-R MoBo and Athlon 1.333 GHZ CPU I have 516 MB of non DDR cas 2 RAM 186 pins. I use a 9700 ATI AIW and very occasionally use a video editor. I use Photoshop and macromedia tools and do Panorama stitching of pics. If I ever did play games they would be Pool table or Billiards or Snooker :) If they were decent enough to approximate reality if at all. The CPU is not overheating now, but it refuses to boot up with an exact copy I just mad on an identically partitioned and sized drive, where the old one boots fine and the new one goes into a repeat cycle every 15 seconds playing the Microsoft bootup tune.
 

Davegod

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Unfortunately, the VIA KT133A chipset does not support DDR memory. (source)
ouch, upgrading would be a new cpu+mobo+ram job. well, wouldnt HAVE to be, but wouldnt see the point otherwise.

no idea what's up with the OS locking up on startup. tried going into safe mode? (usually done by hammering, erm, F8 [?] at the right point during the bootup sequence). Maybe just try ghost again - either clone to the new drive or just make a backup image and try to load it onto the other drive. Probably would be wise to keep the current backup if possible...