I guess we know where the Obama Administration stands on the border issues

[Socio]

Secretary Napolitano Issues Additional Action Directives on "Northern" Border Strategy

U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary Janet Napolitano today issued a second round of action directives on cyber security and the northern border strategy.

These action directives instruct specific offices to gather information, review existing strategies and programs, and to provide oral and written reports back to her by mid February.

Northern Border Strategy. The northern border of the United States has become, since 9/11, important to our national security. As we have designed programs to afford greater protection against unlawful entry, members of Congress and homeland security experts have called for increased attention to the Canadian border. What are the current vulnerabilities, the overall strategy for reducing those vulnerabilities, the requirements, the programs, the budget, and the timeframe for improving security along this border and what level of risk will remain once the programs are completed? An oral report is due by Feb. 10, with a final report due Feb. 17

Not so much as one word about the Southern border like it does not even exist!

Thus it seems pretty evident the Obama Administration intends to ease up on the Mexican border and are going to use the Canadian border as a red herring to divert attention from the fact.

This also begs the question; What in the hell does Mexico have on the US Government that makes them want to do as little as possible on the Southern border?

It must be huge what ever it is.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Socio
Secretary Napolitano Issues Additional Action Directives on "Northern" Border Strategy

U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary Janet Napolitano today issued a second round of action directives on cyber security and the northern border strategy.

These action directives instruct specific offices to gather information, review existing strategies and programs, and to provide oral and written reports back to her by mid February.

Northern Border Strategy. The northern border of the United States has become, since 9/11, important to our national security. As we have designed programs to afford greater protection against unlawful entry, members of Congress and homeland security experts have called for increased attention to the Canadian border. What are the current vulnerabilities, the overall strategy for reducing those vulnerabilities, the requirements, the programs, the budget, and the timeframe for improving security along this border and what level of risk will remain once the programs are completed? An oral report is due by Feb. 10, with a final report due Feb. 17

Not so much as one word about the Southern border like it does not even exist!

Thus it seems pretty evident the Obama Administration intends to ease up on the Mexican border and are going to use the Canadian border as a red herring to divert attention from the fact.

This also begs the question; What in the hell does Mexico have on the US Government that makes them want to do as little as possible on the Southern border?

It must be huge what ever it is.

When discussing the Northern Border, Mexico usually doesn't come into the conversation. Wait for them to discuss the Southern Border, I suspect it will be soon.

 

[CLite]

Originally posted by: Socio
Secretary Napolitano Issues Additional Action Directives on "Northern" Border Strategy

U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary Janet Napolitano today issued a second round of action directives on cyber security and the northern border strategy.

These action directives instruct specific offices to gather information, review existing strategies and programs, and to provide oral and written reports back to her by mid February.

Northern Border Strategy. The northern border of the United States has become, since 9/11, important to our national security. As we have designed programs to afford greater protection against unlawful entry, members of Congress and homeland security experts have called for increased attention to the Canadian border. What are the current vulnerabilities, the overall strategy for reducing those vulnerabilities, the requirements, the programs, the budget, and the timeframe for improving security along this border and what level of risk will remain once the programs are completed? An oral report is due by Feb. 10, with a final report due Feb. 17

Not so much as one word about the Southern border like it does not even exist!

Thus it seems pretty evident the Obama Administration intends to ease up on the Mexican border and are going to use the Canadian border as a red herring to divert attention from the fact.

This also begs the question; What in the hell does Mexico have on the US Government that makes them want to do as little as possible on the Southern border?

It must be huge what ever it is.

/facepalm

It's been recognized for quite a while that the northern border is a huge vulnerability due to the length of the border and relative amount of uninhabited land. This is obviously an initiative to address that. The fact that you try to paint this as Obama ignoring the southern border is very revealing of your intelligence, or lack there of.

 

[Socio]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Socio
Secretary Napolitano Issues Additional Action Directives on "Northern" Border Strategy

U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary Janet Napolitano today issued a second round of action directives on cyber security and the northern border strategy.

These action directives instruct specific offices to gather information, review existing strategies and programs, and to provide oral and written reports back to her by mid February.

Northern Border Strategy. The northern border of the United States has become, since 9/11, important to our national security. As we have designed programs to afford greater protection against unlawful entry, members of Congress and homeland security experts have called for increased attention to the Canadian border. What are the current vulnerabilities, the overall strategy for reducing those vulnerabilities, the requirements, the programs, the budget, and the timeframe for improving security along this border and what level of risk will remain once the programs are completed? An oral report is due by Feb. 10, with a final report due Feb. 17

Not so much as one word about the Southern border like it does not even exist!

Thus it seems pretty evident the Obama Administration intends to ease up on the Mexican border and are going to use the Canadian border as a red herring to divert attention from the fact.

This also begs the question; What in the hell does Mexico have on the US Government that makes them want to do as little as possible on the Southern border?

It must be huge what ever it is.

When discussing the Northern Border, Mexico usually doesn't come into the conversation. Wait for them to discuss the Southern Border, I suspect it will be soon.

I doubt it, as it is pretty apparent that Cyber security and the "northern" border are the only thing she is concerning herself with. If it was not then why didn't she add the southern border to her list of directives in her first actions?

Which by the way should have been a blatantly obvious first step for her!

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

Originally posted by: Socio

Not so much as one word about the Southern border like it does not even exist!

Just because they didn't say anything, doesn't mean they aren't thinking about it....

Thus it seems pretty evident the Obama Administration intends to ease up on the Mexican border and are going to use the Canadian border as a red herring to divert attention from the fact.

Uhhh there is NO relationship between the announcement they want to tighten up the Canada border, and their policy on the Mexican border.

This also begs the question; What in the hell does Mexico have on the US Government that makes them want to do as little as possible on the Southern border?

It must be huge what ever it is.

Okay you're a troll.

*tosses a into the cave for the troll to get the troll back in his cave*

 

[jackschmittusa]

Socio

Does your twisted logic come naturally, or do you have to work at it?

Maybe it would help if you showed your work. Please I think there is a premise missing.

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: Socio
Secretary Napolitano Issues Additional Action Directives on "Northern" Border Strategy

U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary Janet Napolitano today issued a second round of action directives on cyber security and the northern border strategy.

These action directives instruct specific offices to gather information, review existing strategies and programs, and to provide oral and written reports back to her by mid February.

Northern Border Strategy. The northern border of the United States has become, since 9/11, important to our national security. As we have designed programs to afford greater protection against unlawful entry, members of Congress and homeland security experts have called for increased attention to the Canadian border. What are the current vulnerabilities, the overall strategy for reducing those vulnerabilities, the requirements, the programs, the budget, and the timeframe for improving security along this border and what level of risk will remain once the programs are completed? An oral report is due by Feb. 10, with a final report due Feb. 17

Not so much as one word about the Southern border like it does not even exist!

Thus it seems pretty evident the Obama Administration intends to ease up on the Mexican border and are going to use the Canadian border as a red herring to divert attention from the fact.

This also begs the question; What in the hell does Mexico have on the US Government that makes them want to do as little as possible on the Southern border?

It must be huge what ever it is.

???

I live in Az, and Napolitano has wanted much tighter security. That wont change. This is not the entire border strategy you are listening too, its just the one portion... but nice try... anything to criticize the Obama admin, is fair game, isnt it.

 

[Socio]

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: Socio
Secretary Napolitano Issues Additional Action Directives on "Northern" Border Strategy

U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary Janet Napolitano today issued a second round of action directives on cyber security and the northern border strategy.

These action directives instruct specific offices to gather information, review existing strategies and programs, and to provide oral and written reports back to her by mid February.

Northern Border Strategy. The northern border of the United States has become, since 9/11, important to our national security. As we have designed programs to afford greater protection against unlawful entry, members of Congress and homeland security experts have called for increased attention to the Canadian border. What are the current vulnerabilities, the overall strategy for reducing those vulnerabilities, the requirements, the programs, the budget, and the timeframe for improving security along this border and what level of risk will remain once the programs are completed? An oral report is due by Feb. 10, with a final report due Feb. 17

Not so much as one word about the Southern border like it does not even exist!

Thus it seems pretty evident the Obama Administration intends to ease up on the Mexican border and are going to use the Canadian border as a red herring to divert attention from the fact.

This also begs the question; What in the hell does Mexico have on the US Government that makes them want to do as little as possible on the Southern border?

It must be huge what ever it is.

???

I live in Az, and Napolitano has wanted much tighter security. That wont change.

Hardly!

She does not support the enforcement of the current immigration laws, she is pro-amnesty, she does not even want them to leave get in line and come back. We have millions in this country without jobs and she thinks we need even more immigrants. So it should be no surprise she will ignore the Southern Border as much as possible. In fact I would bet we will see resources diverted from the Southern border to the interior or Northern border in the next six months.

Obama Taps Open Borders & Pro Amnesty Gov. Napolitano for Homeland Security

In the January 2008 interview, Napolitano

While Napolitano would focus on interior enforcement of employer sanctions, she would also urge Congress to increase the number of work visas because, in her view, the current number is "obviously inadequate to meet our current and future labor needs."

Earned legalization for illegal immigrants must be on the next president's agenda, added Napolitano. In contrast with some congressional Republicans who want to delay earned legalization until new border security measures are enacted, Napolitano said, "I don't know that you should do those sequentially."

In exchange for a pathway to citizenship, Napolitano would require illegal immigrants to pay a fine, learn English, and "get in line."

She would not, however, require illegal immigrants to "touchback" in their country of origin before getting a pathway to earned legalization.

Napolitano Receiving Mixed Reviews

"She's been an impediment to securing our borders. She's been an impediment to enforcing the law," Arizona Rep. Russell Pearce told the Arizona Capitol Times.

Even some Democrats have viewed Napolitano?s experience with border control and immigration with some skepticism.

"I think immigration came at her. She was very effective at countering, but it wasn't her choosing," Rep. Ben Miranda told the Arizona Capitol Times. "We were at Ground Zero for immigration in Arizona."

Now it is her choosing and she will choose to not, of that I have no doubt.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Socio
Secretary Napolitano Issues Additional Action Directives on "Northern" Border Strategy

U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary Janet Napolitano today issued a second round of action directives on cyber security and the northern border strategy.

These action directives instruct specific offices to gather information, review existing strategies and programs, and to provide oral and written reports back to her by mid February.

Northern Border Strategy. The northern border of the United States has become, since 9/11, important to our national security. As we have designed programs to afford greater protection against unlawful entry, members of Congress and homeland security experts have called for increased attention to the Canadian border. What are the current vulnerabilities, the overall strategy for reducing those vulnerabilities, the requirements, the programs, the budget, and the timeframe for improving security along this border and what level of risk will remain once the programs are completed? An oral report is due by Feb. 10, with a final report due Feb. 17

Not so much as one word about the Southern border like it does not even exist!

Thus it seems pretty evident the Obama Administration intends to ease up on the Mexican border and are going to use the Canadian border as a red herring to divert attention from the fact.

This also begs the question; What in the hell does Mexico have on the US Government that makes them want to do as little as possible on the Southern border?

It must be huge what ever it is.

When discussing the Northern Border, Mexico usually doesn't come into the conversation. Wait for them to discuss the Southern Border, I suspect it will be soon.

I doubt it, as it is pretty apparent that Cyber security and the "northern" border are the only thing she is concerning herself with. If it was not then why didn't she add the southern border to her list of directives in her first actions?

Which by the way should have been a blatantly obvious first step for her!

/facepalm

Because they are two totally different areas with very different problems.

Socio, this is dumb, even for you.

 

[Elias824]

Quick close the border! No more Canadians in the US! cmon people lets get some gun's and camp out by the fence!

 

[waggy]

err what does the northern border have to do with mexico? maybe im missing something.


Just as i get on the people for wanting to already elect obama in 2012 im not going to nail him on something that is not there. Until they either ignore (he has not been in office that long) or say they are doing nothing just be quite and give the man some time.

 

[MovingTarget]

Originally posted by: Socio
/snip
Obama Taps Open Borders & Pro Amnesty Gov. Napolitano for Homeland Security

In the January 2008 interview, Napolitano

While Napolitano would focus on interior enforcement of employer sanctions, she would also urge Congress to increase the number of work visas because, in her view, the current number is "obviously inadequate to meet our current and future labor needs."

Earned legalization for illegal immigrants must be on the next president's agenda, added Napolitano. In contrast with some congressional Republicans who want to delay earned legalization until new border security measures are enacted, Napolitano said, "I don't know that you should do those sequentially."

In exchange for a pathway to citizenship, Napolitano would require illegal immigrants to pay a fine, learn English, and "get in line."

She would not, however, require illegal immigrants to "touchback" in their country of origin before getting a pathway to earned legalization.

Napolitano Receiving Mixed Reviews

"She's been an impediment to securing our borders. She's been an impediment to enforcing the law," Arizona Rep. Russell Pearce told the Arizona Capitol Times.

Even some Democrats have viewed Napolitano?s experience with border control and immigration with some skepticism.

"I think immigration came at her. She was very effective at countering, but it wasn't her choosing," Rep. Ben Miranda told the Arizona Capitol Times. "We were at Ground Zero for immigration in Arizona."

Now it is her choosing and she will choose to not, of that I have no doubt.

Been listening to Lou Dobbs lately? Look, the Southern boarder IS a problem that we need to deal with ASAP. There are very few who dispute this. However, in the articles you posted I do not see anything about "amnesty" as you call it. More work permits? Logistically, it makes sense as the demand for Mexican workers is exponentially higher than the legal (i.e. permitted) supply. Having Mexicans apply for a permit and then come over to work legally is not amnesty. Note that in the first article, Napolitano is talking about further enforcing the law and implementing a way for Mexicans to EARN a legalized status by paying a fine, learning English, and getting in line like everybody else who wants to immigrate and/or work over here. Although in principle I agree with enforcing a "touchback" policy, it is a logistical nightmare and does not deal with the problem in any pragmatic way. People tend to associate "amnesty" with the lack of a touchback policy by overgeneralizing things and somehow keeping the illusion that all the illegal immigrants can just go to some office and get a green card without any requirements whatsoever. However, the lack of a touchback policy can be easily gotten around if we cooperated with the Mexican government to try and deal with their citizens. Embassies and Consulates are often considered the sovereign soil of their represented country, so we could set up a system to use those to do all the paperwork, background checks, etc. just like with any other country. If we do not deal with this problem in a comprehensive and pragmatic way, and soon, it will really come back to bite us in the ass in the future. See what happened with the first "amnesty" under Reagan.

Personally, I'll wait until the administration's policy on the Southern boarder is announced. They don't have to announce them at the same time though, and I expect there to be much larger complexities on the Southern boarder than the northern one. Give Obama/Napolitano the benefit of the doubt until they actually DO something.

 

[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
Socio

Does your twisted logic come naturally, or do you have to work at it?

Maybe it would help if you showed your work. Please I think there is a premise missing.

Twisted logic?

How many illegal aliens come into the US from the northern boarder versus the southern?

I know which border problem I think is the greater risk.

 

[soccerballtux]

Originally posted by: CLite

Originally posted by: Socio
Secretary Napolitano Issues Additional Action Directives on "Northern" Border Strategy

U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary Janet Napolitano today issued a second round of action directives on cyber security and the northern border strategy.

These action directives instruct specific offices to gather information, review existing strategies and programs, and to provide oral and written reports back to her by mid February.

Northern Border Strategy. The northern border of the United States has become, since 9/11, important to our national security. As we have designed programs to afford greater protection against unlawful entry, members of Congress and homeland security experts have called for increased attention to the Canadian border. What are the current vulnerabilities, the overall strategy for reducing those vulnerabilities, the requirements, the programs, the budget, and the timeframe for improving security along this border and what level of risk will remain once the programs are completed? An oral report is due by Feb. 10, with a final report due Feb. 17

Not so much as one word about the Southern border like it does not even exist!

Thus it seems pretty evident the Obama Administration intends to ease up on the Mexican border and are going to use the Canadian border as a red herring to divert attention from the fact.

This also begs the question; What in the hell does Mexico have on the US Government that makes them want to do as little as possible on the Southern border?

It must be huge what ever it is.

/facepalm

It's been recognized for quite a while that the northern border is a huge vulnerability due to the length of the border and relative amount of uninhabited land. This is obviously an initiative to address that. The fact that you try to paint this as Obama ignoring the southern border is very revealing of your intelligence, or lack there of.

This is a joke right?

 

[soccerballtux]

Originally posted by: nobodyknows

Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
Socio

Does your twisted logic come naturally, or do you have to work at it?

Maybe it would help if you showed your work. Please I think there is a premise missing.

Twisted logic?

How many illegal aliens come into the US from the northern boarder versus the southern?

I know which border problem I think is the greater risk.

People that don't have a problem with the current southern boarder problem quite obviously do not have America's best interests at heart. It is a religion for them, like it is for most lefties.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: nobodyknows

Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
Socio

Does your twisted logic come naturally, or do you have to work at it?

Maybe it would help if you showed your work. Please I think there is a premise missing.

Twisted logic?

How many illegal aliens come into the US from the northern boarder versus the southern?

I know which border problem I think is the greater risk.

again what does the southern boarder have to do when discussing the northern? give the man time.


And yes the northern boarder is a huge risk also.

 

[Thump553]

As 9/11 PROVED the northern border is a security issue.

The southern border is primarily a financial/civil liberties issue. Not really relevant to a discussion on security.

OP is grasping for any pretense to criticize the new Administration.

 

[BoomerD]

We NEED to strengthen our northern border. Gotta stop those hosers from crossing and smuggling snowballs across...

(or especially in the west, stop the BC Bud smuggling)

The border with Canuckistan is more porus than a colander...hell, the southern border is a fortress by comparison.

As much as I'd LOVE to see the Obama administration lock up the southern border, it just ain't a gonna happen.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Since 2007 there has been a substantial 'self-deportation' - some estimates greater than 10%. Some organizations have noted the 'unskilled' or low-skilled labor market as 'at-risk'. I'm sure those Wall Street bankers (and others) who lose their jobs will go work in a factory 'chicken line'.

And, yes. The northern border would be considered a significant risk - as are our ports.

AMERICA'S NORTHERN BORDER
from Sept, 2007

~~~~~ I hope my colleagues are as attentive as the media is on this issue. Let me take a moment to read some of the Government Accountability Office's report.

It said:

Our visits [referring to the GAO's investigations of the Northern border] show that Customs and Border Protection faces significant challenges in effectively monitoring the border and preventing undetected entry into the United States. Our work shows that a determined cross-border violator would likely be able to bring radioactive materials or other contraband undetected into the United States by crossing the United States-Canadian border at any of the locations we investigated.

Think about that for a moment. The Government Accountability Office is saying that terrorists are currently able to smuggle radiological, biological, or chemical weapons into our country without much difficulty. If this were to happen, our worst nightmare scenario would become a reality.

Finally. An administration that pays attention.

 

[Xellos2099]

This prove that financial issue is nto of Obama best interest.

 

[Danwar]

too many crackheads & marijuana smokers in the US.

if you close the southern border you would have civil uprising.

 

[CitizenKain]

Originally posted by: soccerballtux

People that don't have a problem with the current southern boarder problem quite obviously do not have America's best interests at heart. It is a religion for them, like it is for most righties.

You misspelled something there.

 

[alien42]

the OP is just plain silly.

 

[rudder]

Originally posted by: Danwar
too many crackheads & marijuana smokers in the US.

if you close the southern border you would have civil uprising.

How about clsoing the southern border and buying domestically grown weed?

With all that extra revenue... Tennessee could probably get out of its budget crisis.

 

[nixium]

Not to encourage the paranoid OP of this thread - but I sure hope the US government is closely monitoring developments in Mexico. The past few months have not been good.

http://online.wsj.com/article/...tml?mod=googlenews_wsj

Tally all this up and what you get is Mexico on the edge of chaos, and a mess that could easily bleed across the border. The U.S. Joint Forces Command in Norfolk, Va., warned recently that an unstable Mexico "could represent a homeland security problem of immense proportions to the United States." In a report titled "Joint Operating Environment 2008," the Command singles out Mexico and Pakistan as potentially failing states. Both "bear consideration for a rapid and sudden collapse . . . . The Mexican possibility may seem less likely, but the government, its politicians, police, and judicial infrastructure are all under sustained assault and pressure by criminal gangs and drug cartels."