I guess if you have money/famous, manslaughter isn't a problem

NoStateofMind

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Another NFL star has gotten into trouble, but this time its manslaughter. Dante Stallworth was driving drunk and killed a man. His punishment? $10,000 fine, loses his license for life, 30 days in jail, two years house arrest and eight years probation. What? Really? Lets see Joe Shmoe down the street get that with his $7hr Burger King job....

Oh yeah, he did pay the family an undisclosed amount of money. Still doesn't make up for the slap on the wrist IMO.

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Cleveland Browns wide receiver Donte Stallworth begins his second day of a 30-day jail sentence today for killing a pedestrian while driving drunk in Florida.

The 28-year-old National Football League star's abbreviated jail term came because of his cooperation with investigators and the wishes of the victim's family.

Stallworth pleaded guilty Tuesday to manslaughter while driving under the influence of alcohol in exchange for a lighter sentence. He was sentenced to 30 days in jail for the car crash that killed a pedestrian in Miami Beach.

The player had faced up to 15 years in jail for the death of 59-year-old construction worker Mario Reyes, who apparently was running across the street to catch a bus when the athlete hit him with his car March 14.

The average jail sentence for similar crimes in Florida is 10 years, but Stallworth reached a confidential financial settlement with Reyes' family.

Seems like the law only applies to those without money....

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JKing106

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Next in the seris is "Corporate CEO's raid worker's pensions, still get severance packages."
 

MovingTarget

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You only get the justice you can afford. For the poor, access to justice is a HUGE problem. The rich can get away with murder with a few well-placed campaign contributions and a crack teem of the best hired legal goons. Everybody else just hopes they can get a lawyer provided that actually gives a shit...which doesn't happen near often enough.
 

Craig234

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Everyone's happy to complain about money buying leniency, until a liberal lays out the things needed to change it, and then it's right back to the usual ideology.

Of course, the same thing goes on every day in terms of corporations, domestically and internationally.

We should resists the urge to cynicism and oppose these things. For a start, if your state or county elects judges who take campaign contributions - write a letter.
 

Wreckem

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He got what 24 days in jail, 2 years house arrest, 10 years probation, no NFL career, and likely unemployable for the rest of his life. It seems fair, considering it was going to be an atypical DUI manslaughter trial. If they went to trial they would never of been able to get him with 10 years, and no it wouldnt be because of he was an NFL player but because of the facts of the case and Florida law.

If he went to trial he would have probably got 5 years and out in less than 3. While he is free, 10 years of probation is not a light punishment.
 

NeoV

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he'll be back in the NFL - Leonard Little -DE for the Rams - also killed a person while driving intoxicated - was suspended 8 games - and several years later got another DUI - and is still playing in the NFL - hard to see how Stallworth's suspension goes past 8 games
 

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Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
If OJ drove a bus, he wouldn't be OJ Simpson. He'd be Orenthal, the Bus Driving Murderer.

werd

or Kobe Bryant, the butt rapist.
 

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Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
$10,000 fine, loses his license for life, 30 days in jail, two years house arrest and eight years probation.
Seems like a fair punishment for hitting a guy who was running across a 6-lane-highway.

According to reports, Reyes violated traffic laws by walking on the highway instead of using a crosswalk.
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Everyone's happy to complain about money buying leniency, until a liberal lays out the things needed to change it, and then it's right back to the usual ideology.

:laugh: I have no idea what you're trying to say, but because you said it, it's funny.
 

themusgrat

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Everyone's happy to complain about money buying leniency, until a liberal lays out the things needed to change it, and then it's right back to the usual ideology.

Of course, the same thing goes on every day in terms of corporations, domestically and internationally.
Bwahahaha, I hope they pay you money, you're like a little advertising energizer bunny, the ones that just don't stop no matter what.
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: themusgrat
Originally posted by: Craig234
Everyone's happy to complain about money buying leniency, until a liberal lays out the things needed to change it, and then it's right back to the usual ideology.

Of course, the same thing goes on every day in terms of corporations, domestically and internationally.
Bwahahaha, I hope they pay you money, you're like a little advertising energizer bunny, the ones that just don't stop no matter what.

Public service. You're welcome.
 

RyanPaulShaffer

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Everyone's happy to complain about money buying leniency, until a liberal lays out the things needed to change it, and then it's right back to the usual ideology.

Of course, the same thing goes on every day in terms of corporations, domestically and internationally.

We should resists the urge to cynicism and oppose these things. For a start, if your state or county elects judges who take campaign contributions - write a letter.

Wait...

So this is a thread about an NFL player who's money and/or fame probably bought him a light sentence, and Craig brings partisan politics into the thread?

Color me shocked. :Q
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Craig234
Everyone's happy to complain about money buying leniency, until a liberal lays out the things needed to change it, and then it's right back to the usual ideology.

:laugh: I have no idea what you're trying to say, but because you said it, it's funny.

Says the guy with a clown face:)

It's not that complicated a point - we see this and say 'how outrageous for money to buy rich people leniency and have inequality under the law'.

But then let me suggest, say, that we actually beef up the 'public defenders' office to give poorer defendants better quality representation, and you get "oh, no! That costs money, and I want my money, not going to taxes to pay for lawyers for those scumbag criminals who already have too many rights!'

Lots of improvements can be made - including better prevention of crimes - but they're investments, and so people won't pay and they just keep complaining.
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
Originally posted by: Craig234
Everyone's happy to complain about money buying leniency, until a liberal lays out the things needed to change it, and then it's right back to the usual ideology.

Of course, the same thing goes on every day in terms of corporations, domestically and internationally.

We should resists the urge to cynicism and oppose these things. For a start, if your state or county elects judges who take campaign contributions - write a letter.

Wait...

So this is a thread about an NFL player who's money and/or power probably bought him a light sentence, and Craig brings partisan politics into the thread?

Color me shocked. :Q

It's a thread about leniency for a rich guy in comparison to the just others get, and the problem with improving it is right-wing ideologues who won't support improvements.
 

RyanPaulShaffer

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
Originally posted by: Craig234
Everyone's happy to complain about money buying leniency, until a liberal lays out the things needed to change it, and then it's right back to the usual ideology.

Of course, the same thing goes on every day in terms of corporations, domestically and internationally.

We should resists the urge to cynicism and oppose these things. For a start, if your state or county elects judges who take campaign contributions - write a letter.

Wait...

So this is a thread about an NFL player who's money and/or power probably bought him a light sentence, and Craig brings partisan politics into the thread?

Color me shocked. :Q

It's a thread about leniency for a rich guy in comparison to the just others get, and the problem with improving it is right-wing ideologues who won't support improvements.

:laugh:

You try too hard.
 

MotF Bane

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
Originally posted by: Craig234
Everyone's happy to complain about money buying leniency, until a liberal lays out the things needed to change it, and then it's right back to the usual ideology.

Of course, the same thing goes on every day in terms of corporations, domestically and internationally.

We should resists the urge to cynicism and oppose these things. For a start, if your state or county elects judges who take campaign contributions - write a letter.

Wait...

So this is a thread about an NFL player who's money and/or power probably bought him a light sentence, and Craig brings partisan politics into the thread?

Color me shocked. :Q

It's a thread about leniency for a rich guy in comparison to the just others get, and the problem with improving it is right-wing ideologues who won't support improvements.

I've been ignoring your posts lately, but this one was too funny. :laugh:
 

Thump553

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Yesterday I was chatting with a few attorneys who do a whole lot more DUI work than me. The general consensus is that in my state 3-4 years of real jail time would be almost certain, and a 30 day sentence is an absolute home run.

I'm betting his celebrity status had as much to do with it as money, though.
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
Originally posted by: Craig234
Everyone's happy to complain about money buying leniency, until a liberal lays out the things needed to change it, and then it's right back to the usual ideology.

Of course, the same thing goes on every day in terms of corporations, domestically and internationally.

We should resists the urge to cynicism and oppose these things. For a start, if your state or county elects judges who take campaign contributions - write a letter.

Wait...

So this is a thread about an NFL player who's money and/or power probably bought him a light sentence, and Craig brings partisan politics into the thread?

Color me shocked. :Q

It's a thread about leniency for a rich guy in comparison to the just others get, and the problem with improving it is right-wing ideologues who won't support improvements.

:laugh:

You try too hard.

You don't.
 

OCGuy

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This hits close to home with me, as I said in OT about this.


I did 30 days for missing alcohol ed after a non-injury DUI when I was 19. The fact that this asshole is getting the same punishment as me..well....yea.

Although 30 days sounds short, when you are in there dealing with race riots/gangs...it seems like a lifetime. But still, he took a life.


I hope his NFL career is ruined.
 

TruePaige

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Originally posted by: OCguy
This hits close to home with me, as I said in OT about this.


I did 30 days for missing alcohol ed after a non-injury DUI when I was 19. The fact that this asshole is getting the same punishment as me..well....yea.

Although 30 days sounds short, when you are in there dealing with race riots/gangs...it seems like a lifetime. But still, he took a life.


I hope his NFL career is ruined.

Did you do prison though or county lock up?

County jails are pretty tame I'd imagine. At least I've heard they are around here.

He probably gets segregated from the rest of the "masses" anyway. :roll: