I got seriosuly f'ed up.

[Clair de Lune]

Yesterday my friend and I got together and drank. Lots of it.

We drank, let's see 3 beers with food. Then the full scotch night with 2 fingers of Macallan Cask Strength (nearly x1.75 serving), 2 fingers of Cragganmore, 1 finger of Blue label and I couldn't finish Maker's Mark.

We finished at midnight and GF drove me home. I forgot to drink excess water.. bad bad mistake.

I woke up at 5am absolutely ill. Man, a soul-ripping nausea. I wasn't just throwing up. I kept 'throwing up' when nothing was coming out... (dry heaving / non-productive emesis) so. much. pain. My body was rejecting EVERYTHING. I also became cold. Very cold. My immune system was fucked up and gave me massive chills like having a fever.

So I drank some spring water out of terrible thirst.

I threw up all the fucking water in 30 mins. God, another round of hell.

Now the questions:

1. Why did my body throw up the water I drank AFTER I initially threw up? Is it because the body thinks it's alcohol and indiscriminately aborting everything?

2. When does your body decide to threw up? Is it simply when your liver says "Fuck this shit"?

3. It's 10:30am and strangely, I feel quite okay. I'm at my 90% with no actual hang over. It came and went like a storm. What the hell? Isn't it a myth different alchy gives you different hangover? I thought alchy was alchy (ethanol). Was it because I consumed nicer drinks?

Thanks.

 

[CRXican]

not sure about why the body throws up water but I've been there

yay dry heaving!

 

[IceBergSLiM]

rookie.

 

[Insomniator]

wuss

 

[boomerang]

The most important thing is ... did you have a good time?

 

[buck]

You can't forget the water like that buddy, you just can't....

You ask some great questions though.

 

[MrChad]

Alcohol is a poison. Your body can process / handle some of it through your liver, but it will start rejecting it outright when you've had too much (vomiting).

 

[Clair de Lune]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
rookie.

Hey can't argue against that.

During college I was the wise one to always force everyone to drink excess amounts of water (2-3 glasses). This guarantees almost no hang over as it occurs from dehydration.

I'm 28 now and forgot to hydrate. A very bad mistake.

 

[bonkers325]

bad idea to guzzle water. should've sipped it over time, would've kept more of it down

 

[Wonderful Pork]

Originally posted by: Clair de Lune

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
rookie.

Hey can't argue against that.

During college I was the wise one to always force everyone to drink excess amounts of water (2-3 glasses). This guarantees almost no hang over as it occurs from dehydration.

I'm 28 now and forgot to hydrate. A very bad mistake.

If you are dehydrated you need more than just water. I like to drink Gatorade before bed & after I wake up to make sure all the electrolytes and everything are replenished.

Plus, mixing beer and then scotch never results in good news.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Alcohol will give you a hangover eventurally. When I was young I could drink like nuts then feel fine the next day. This is no longer the case. Also, in my experiences I'll typically feel better the next day, after I've had too much if I throw up. If I hold it in then it's pretty much a gaurantee that the hangover the next day will be pretty rough.

 

[techs]

Amateur

 

[Bill Brasky]

Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
Now the questions:

1. Why did my body throw up the water I drank AFTER I initially threw up? Is it because the body thinks it's alcohol and indiscriminately aborting everything?

2. When does your body decide to threw up? Is it simply when your liver says "Fuck this shit"?

3. It's 10:30am and strangely, I feel quite okay. I'm at my 90% with no actual hang over. It came and went like a storm. What the hell? Isn't it a myth different alchy gives you different hangover? I thought alchy was alchy (ethanol). Was it because I consumed nicer drinks?

Thanks.

I think it's because of the increased amounts of acetaldehyde (a 'toxic' intermediate of ethanol break down) in the blood. Since its in the blood, that would explain why you continue to vomit even when the stomach is clear. I just learned this from googling, so who knows.

Did you experience any dizziness? Vertigo can strongly induce nausea as well.

Nice work gettin' it done properly. :thumbsup:

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: Clair de Lune
Yesterday my friend and I got together and drank. Lots of it.

We drank, let's see 3 beers with food. Then the full scotch night with 2 fingers of McCallan Cask Strength (nearly x1.75 serving), 2 fingers of Cragganmore, 1 finger of Blue label and I couldn't finish Maker's Mark.

We finished at midnight and GF drove me home. I forgot to drink excess water.. bad bad mistake.

I woke up at 5am absolutely ill. Man, a soul-ripping nausea. I wasn't just throwing up. I kept 'throwing up' when nothing was coming out... so. much. pain. My body was rejecting EVERYTHING. I also became cold. Very cold. My immune system was fucked up and gave me massive chills like having a fever.

So I drank some spring water because desperately thirsty.

I threw up all the fucking water in 30 mins.

Now the questions:

1. Why did my body throw up the water I drank AFTER I initially threw up? Is it because the body thinks it's alcohol and indiscriminately aborting everything?

2. When does your body decide to threw up? Is it simply when your liver says "Fuck this shit"?

3. It's 10:30am and strangely, I feel quite okay. I'm at my like 90%. No actual hang over. It came and went like a storm. What the hell? Isn't it a myth different alchy gives you diff. hangover? I thought alchy was alchy (ethanol). Was it because I drank nicer drinks?

Thanks.

Congratulations on getting alcohol poisoning...

Nausea - Yup
Vomiting - Yup
Hypothermia - Yup
Hypoglycaemia - Yup

1) Your body decides to throw the water back up because it needs the poison out more than it needs water. It doesn't know that it is water... it just knows that on an instinctual level most poisons are ingested and if you expel the poison you improve your survival chances. See point 2.

It is better to stay up and keep vomiting than drink some water and go to bed, about half of all alcohol related deaths are due to aspirating vomit (vomit gets in your lungs)

This is also why they pump your stomach... be glad you didn't go through that. It isn't subtle, hose into the stomach and pump till you can get no more...

2) The alcohol in your system is triggering the chemoreceptor trigger zone (CTZ) in your brain. The CTZ recognises that there is a shit load of poison in you, and decides that is a bad thing. It then triggers vomiting to try and remove the poison from your system - which is normally pretty effective (it can struggle with alcohol if you down a lot in a short period, due to requiring time for the alcohol to be absorbed and distributed).

3) There would still be a decent amount of alcohol in your stomach when your body decided it didn't like the contents (since you drank with/after food). That means the alcohol level in your body stopped rising, and your liver could get to work metabolising it, without worrying about more alcohol coming in. If you hadn't thrown up your body would still have been "drinking" for a few hours...

It is likely that if you threw up at 5 am your are still drunk at 10 am... and it is uncommon* to have a hangover when you are still drunk (you can feel rough and tired, which will get worse as the alcohol leaves...)

*Asian flush is essentially a hangover while drinking due to the accumulation of ethanal (acetaldehyde).

3) All ethyl alcohol is ethyl alcohol... not all drinks are the same. The other components can have a dramatic effect on hangovers. Since spirits are distilled they tend not to give such bad hangovers - a lot of the side products of fermentation are gone. Also their diuretic effect is slightly different due to their smaller volume - think about it -if you drink 2 litres of water you will piss like a race horse, similarly if you drink gallons of beer/wine you will piss, but there is an additive effect because the alcohol is also a diuretic, as your body will go "I need to get rid of a large amount of fluids", the alcohol will potentiale this and your body will be like - "opps too much!". Thus you will end up more dehydrated with beer/wine - and since dehydration plays a major role in hangovers - worse hangover.

If you want to know more ask

Edit:

Originally posted by: bonkers325
bad idea to guzzle water. should've sipped it over time, would've kept more of it down

This is true, but a good "flush" will make sure as much of the alcohol is expelled as possible. You can then resume sipping the water. A small amount of sugary solution can also help combat the hypoglycaemia.

 

[SparkyJJO]

And people wonder why I don't drink so much to get drunk.

 

[Gibsons]

Congeners

From wiki:

In addition, it is thought that the presence of other alcohols (such as fusel oils), by-products of the alcoholic fermentation also called congeners, exaggerate many of the symptoms (congeners may also be zinc or other metals added primarily to sweet liqueurs to enhance their flavor); this probably accounts for the mitigation of the effects when distilled alcohol, particularly vodka, is consumed instead[10].

Red wines have more congeners than white wines, and some people note less of a hangover with white wine. Some individuals have a strong negative reaction to red wine, distinct from hangover, called red wine headache that can affect them within 15 minutes after drinking a single glass of red wine. The headache is usually accompanied by nausea and flushing[citation needed].

 

[mugs]

I had that happen a few times... no headache or anything, but I couldn't keep anything down. In my case I didn't stop throwing up until around dinner time each time. I believe each time it happened was after I had been drinking hard liquor.

You question whether different types of alcohol can have different types of hangovers, but I'm not sure I'd call this a hangover. It seems more like your body is reacting to being poisoned by trying to expel everything it can.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: Gibsons
Congeners

From wiki:

In addition, it is thought that the presence of other alcohols (such as fusel oils), by-products of the alcoholic fermentation also called congeners, exaggerate many of the symptoms (congeners may also be zinc or other metals added primarily to sweet liqueurs to enhance their flavor); this probably accounts for the mitigation of the effects when distilled alcohol, particularly vodka, is consumed instead[10].

Red wines have more congeners than white wines, and some people note less of a hangover with white wine. Some individuals have a strong negative reaction to red wine, distinct from hangover, called red wine headache that can affect them within 15 minutes after drinking a single glass of red wine. The headache is usually accompanied by nausea and flushing[citation needed].

Yes red wine can induce migraines...

 

[Modelworks]

sucking on ice chips is best

 

[xSauronx]

Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
And people wonder why I don't drink so much to get drunk.

seriously. i just need a few drinks and ive got *quite* the buzz and pretty much just need a place to sleep.

or a hockey game to scream at, whatever.

 

[Kirby]

Originally posted by: mugs
I had that happen a few times... no headache or anything, but I couldn't keep anything down. In my case I didn't stop throwing up until around dinner time each time. I believe each time it happened was after I had been drinking hard liquor.

You question whether different types of alcohol can have different types of hangovers, but I'm not sure I'd call this a hangover. It seems more like your body is reacting to being poisoned by trying to expel everything it can.

yeah, when i have a hangover, it's an all day affair. fucking sucks.

 

[Clair de Lune]

PlasmaBomb, good stuff you wrote there. A lingering question:

I ate at 8pm (had a FEAST), started drinking at 9ish til midnight. Why would my body throw up as LATE as 5am? Was it because the food was 'buffering' the alcohol and my body was effectively still drinking while asleep and when it couldn't take it anymore at 5am, it woke me up to throw up?

This sounds about right, what do you think?

As for:

It is likely that if you threw up at 5 am your are still drunk at 10 am... and it is uncommon* to have a hangover when you are still drunk (you can feel rough and tired, which will get worse as the alcohol leaves...)

As stated, when I woke up at 10am, I was surprisingly okay. No hangover, completely sober, and just exhausted.

It literally came and went like a storm. It's 1pm now, I feel better.

 

[Hacp]

Step one: Get some saline water
Step two: Inject it into your blood stream.

 

[lxskllr]

That's why I try not to drink much. I've never gotten a headache from drinking, but I've done my share of puking. Beer and sweet drinks are more likely to make me sick. Curiously, I can drink scotch until I pass out, and wake up feeling fine.

 

[Locut0s]

Been there.

Here's hoping you feel better buddy! Best thing to do curl up with a large bowl or pot and keep throwing up till your body stops. when you can finally keep it down drink lots of water and get SLEEP!!

edit: Doh! didn't read your last post. Yeah the couple of times I got sick like that on alcohol was the same, no real hangover just horribly sick for several hours.