I got my 7600GT KO updated ->83>79-80> 77 > 59 !

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This is what I'm trying to avoid, a f'd up card. It works but now it's Idling @ 71 C. And I know that's not what is supposed to be. I just received it today...just RMA it?


update 1

after a quick benchmark from AQ3...not the idle temp is 69 C

update 2

I just installed the latest drivers...Now it's reading @ mid 50 C

update 3


Sigh I ran 3dmark06 and it passed twice of the of two test :p (duh)

here's a screeny of the score

2997

meh it's not bad :)

update 4


I ran rthdribl_1_2 for 20 mins and that sucker made the GPU heat up to 82 C celsius !!!! Funny thing, there was no throttling, pauses nor artifacts. This card is a beast.

now it's @ 55-56 C on idle

update 5

AS5 failed on me...i'm really going to take my sweet time cleaning it up and reapplying it again. Yet the card still runs

update 6

I cleaned up and reapplied the AS5 again, and its temps went down by 1-2 (well my room was cooler now). Maybe I'm lucky that the card didn't crap on me when it was first installed, better than having a DOA. I'm going to take care of this lil critter for a really long time..by then I'll be getting a new cooler if I feel like it.

Darn...Idle temps went slightly up...:(

One thing I had noticed with the 7600GT KOs HSF, it's not really smooth :confused:

lol. EVGA

as a result from reseating the HSF twice with AS5, I had used

a small cup of isopropyl alcohol
5 coffee filters
2 latex gloves
20 cutips !!!!!!
and .... 1 diet 7up can.


update 7

I added a PCI exhaust fan, it made a good difference. Now the load is 76-77 :thumbsup:

woohoo !!!

update 8


I Just received my zalman VF900 and BAM what a difference. Now my Idle temps is 47 C ~ and load 59 C on Rhtdribl_1_2 for an hour !!!

Whooot !

Although I had a hard time installing the last fixing nut :( =/
 

Matt2

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Since it's an EVGA, I recommend popping off the HSF, reapplying thermal paste and reseating the HSF. That will most likely fix your temps and is a lot more convenient than sending the card back.
 

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Originally posted by: Matt2
Since it's an EVGA, I recommend popping off the HSF, reapplying thermal paste and reseating the HSF. That will most likely fix your temps and is a lot more convenient than sending the card back.


yeah...is there a tutorial for that? I'm a newbie in that field. I got AS5 on storage.
 

Matt2

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I dont know of any tutorials. Just look under the card and start unscrewing screws that line up with the HSF. As long as you remember where the screws go and you dont zap your card, there is nothing you can unscrew that will damage your card.

Once you get the screws off that hold down the HSF, it sahould just "pop" off.
 

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how would I clean up the left over paste? just isopropyl alcohol + coffee filters/cutips?

and as for re-apply the paste, I just let the HSF do all the squishing?
 

Matt2

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When I clean off GPU/CPUs I always take a paper towel and wipe the excess paste off the die. Then I go in with the alcohol and the q-tips to get it real clean.

You can either apply a small dab (smaller than u would for a CPU) and let the HSF do the squishing, or u can do what I do and just use a clean credit card and apply a small even layer.
 

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Originally posted by: Matt2
When I clean off GPU/CPUs I always take a paper towel and wipe the excess paste off the die. Then I go in with the alcohol and the q-tips to get it real clean.

You can either apply a small dab (smaller than u would for a CPU) and let the HSF do the squishing, or u can do what I do and just use a clean credit card and apply a small even layer.


would I do the same thing with the ram?
 

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Originally posted by: Powermoloch
Originally posted by: Matt2
When I clean off GPU/CPUs I always take a paper towel and wipe the excess paste off the die. Then I go in with the alcohol and the q-tips to get it real clean.

You can either apply a small dab (smaller than u would for a CPU) and let the HSF do the squishing, or u can do what I do and just use a clean credit card and apply a small even layer.


would I do the same thing with the ram?


RAM usually has it's own thermal tape/pad doesn't it??
 

Matt2

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no. DO not put AS5 on your RAM modules. I'm not sure about the 7600GT KO cooler, but I think it has thermal pads on the RAM chips. Just leave them be and clean/reapply paste to the GPU.
 

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Originally posted by: Matt2
no. DO not put AS5 on your RAM modules. I'm not sure about the 7600GT KO cooler, but I think it has thermal pads on the RAM chips. Just leave them be and clean/reapply paste to the GPU.

yeah...

I just installed the latest drivers..now it's reading @ 57 C idle. WTF !!!!!! :confused:

I'm scared now...what to trust
 

TheRyuu

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I wouldn't trust any software temp reader. The only read way to tell is to stick a temp reader right on the die (but please, don't do it).

You ABOUT in the area of 60C which is probably too hot. Since taking off the HSF is covered in warrenty, just go ahead and pop it off.
(Really, first you'll want to take off the HSF)
1.) First you'll want to clean off most of the gunk with a paper towel. Wait for the Alcohol.
2.) Now take some Q-tips and just stick them in the bottel of alcohol and get the tip wet. Then wipe off the rest and get it clean (might take a few Q-tips), and make sure there's no residue on the green part surouding the core.
3.) This is what I like to do next, just clean off the ram too a little (like take one Q-tip and just wipe off all the ram chips with it just to get it clean). I don't think that your card has RAM sinks though.
4.) Now that it's all clean, put a little AS5 (grain of rice, seriously, you won't need a lot of it). Now people here will say smooth it out really thin with a blade, but that's not really nessasary as the compression should do it. But I always just take an inside out plastic zip-lock bag and spread it out over the entire die.
5.) Put the HSF back on and screw it in place
6.) Profit :)

That should be all you really need to know. Everything else is just common sense. (like using the XTreme-G 91.31 Select Drivers :p)

Have Fun.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: wizboy11
I wouldn't trust any software temp reader. The only read way to tell is to stick a temp reader right on the die (but please, don't do it).

You ABOUT in the area of 60C which is probably too hot. Since taking off the HSF is covered in warrenty, just go ahead and pop it off.
(Really, first you'll want to take off the HSF)
1.) First you'll want to clean off most of the gunk with a paper towel. Wait for the Alcohol.
2.) Now take some Q-tips and just stick them in the bottel of alcohol and get the tip wet. Then wipe off the rest and get it clean (might take a few Q-tips), and make sure there's no residue on the green part surouding the core.
3.) This is what I like to do next, just clean off the ram too a little (like take one Q-tip and just wipe off all the ram chips with it just to get it clean). I don't think that your card has RAM sinks though.
4.) Now that it's all clean, put a little AS5 (grain of rice, seriously, you won't need a lot of it). Now people here will say smooth it out really thin with a blade, but that's not really nessasary as the compression should do it. But I always just take an inside out plastic zip-lock bag and spread it out over the entire die.
5.) Put the HSF back on and screw it in place
6.) Profit :)

That should be all you really need to know. Everything else is just common sense. (like using the XTreme-G 91.31 Select Drivers :p)

Have Fun.

I'll keep that in mind wiz :)

right now, i'm going to test it on 3dmark06. So far it played Dungeon Siege II @ 1600x1200 2AA/8AF fairly well.

scored on 63,000 on AQ3 so far :/
 

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Originally posted by: akshayt
your score is low
according to xbitlabs, a normal 7600GT gets around 3300
Since '06 scores are influenced by the CPU used, you just look at the SM 2.0 & SM 3.0 Scores. His are in the normal range.
 

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dont mean to thread jack but i put as5 on my mem chips, i have a x1800xl, is there anything wrong with that? there were thermal pads but i thought as5 was give it a better heat transfer from ram to thermal pad to cooler?
 

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Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Originally posted by: akshayt
your score is low
according to xbitlabs, a normal 7600GT gets around 3300
Since '06 scores are influenced by the CPU used, you just look at the SM 2.0 & SM 3.0 Scores. His are in the normal range.


yeah. I'm pretty happy with my scores. Since the PC's cpu is Intel 630 :p

lol I installed oblivion @ 1600x1200 on mid settings with adv tweaking w/ the tweaper program.

It's playable and managable. And I found out out from the temperature readings, underload so far showed the 7600GT @ 63-65 C range.
 

Modular

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Originally posted by: Running
dont mean to thread jack but i put as5 on my mem chips, i have a x1800xl, is there anything wrong with that? there were thermal pads but i thought as5 was give it a better heat transfer from ram to thermal pad to cooler?


Yes, you should never apply AS5 to the RAM chips. I don't remember the exact reason so I'll give you what I remember...

AS5 can pass a slight electromagnetic current which can mess up the memory chips. I believe the reason that the core is not in danger of this is because it has lower clock speeds than the memory.

I would uninstall your cooler and take the AS5 off of the RAM chips ASAP.

Replace it with some normal thermal paste or some thermal pads.



Edit:
Don't put AS5 on your memory chips since they're capacitive


http://planetamd64.com/lofiversion/index.php/t18394.html


The memory chips are capacitive, and since AS is electrically conductive, this can cause a charge to build on the chips and ruin them.

 

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Originally posted by: Modular
Originally posted by: Running
dont mean to thread jack but i put as5 on my mem chips, i have a x1800xl, is there anything wrong with that? there were thermal pads but i thought as5 was give it a better heat transfer from ram to thermal pad to cooler?


Yes, you should never apply AS5 to the RAM chips. I don't remember the exact reason so I'll give you what I remember...

AS5 can pass a slight electromagnetic current which can mess up the memory chips. I believe the reason that the core is not in danger of this is because it has lower clock speeds than the memory.

I would uninstall your cooler and take the AS5 off of the RAM chips ASAP.

Replace it with some normal thermal paste or some thermal pads.



Edit:
Don't put AS5 on your memory chips since they're capacitive


http://planetamd64.com/lofiversion/index.php/t18394.html


The memory chips are capacitive, and since AS is electrically conductive, this can cause a charge to build on the chips and ruin them.

good job.
 

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well...the 7600GT KO didn't crap on me yet so far it played oblivion, Fable lost chapters, aq3, some nvidia demos, other games without a hitch. For now lol :p

Lol i'm using a dell 5150, and there is NO outake fans (yeah...)
 

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Lifer
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updated..now I have to figure out to install an exhaust fan at the back :confused:

rthdribl_1_2 is a really hot program for the card...yet I don't have any problems @ 82 C max AFAIK. Kinda crazy.

from what I learned from evga forums

alot of people are having a hard time with 7600GT KOs...most artifacting or DOA. 40-55 C on idle is acceptable, anything below < 90 C during load is normal on most nvidia cards. I guess i'm pretty luck unless someone said otherwise....

 

TheRyuu

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Originally posted by: Modular
Originally posted by: Running
dont mean to thread jack but i put as5 on my mem chips, i have a x1800xl, is there anything wrong with that? there were thermal pads but i thought as5 was give it a better heat transfer from ram to thermal pad to cooler?


Yes, you should never apply AS5 to the RAM chips. I don't remember the exact reason so I'll give you what I remember...

AS5 can pass a slight electromagnetic current which can mess up the memory chips. I believe the reason that the core is not in danger of this is because it has lower clock speeds than the memory.

I would uninstall your cooler and take the AS5 off of the RAM chips ASAP.

Replace it with some normal thermal paste or some thermal pads.



Edit:
Don't put AS5 on your memory chips since they're capacitive


http://planetamd64.com/lofiversion/index.php/t18394.html


The memory chips are capacitive, and since AS is electrically conductive, this can cause a charge to build on the chips and ruin them.

Actually, technically, AS5 does not conduct electricity.

So, TECHNICALLY you should be alright putting them on the ram. (note, TECHNICALLY). Personally, I would never do it. But you should actually be alright if it's working fine with it on the ram chips. (but please, never do it agian ;))

@OP:
82C is actually fine. It's a little hot for my taste so I'd still re-seat the HSF just to lower it at least a little. After all, isn't the default thottle speed like 130C!??

At least it works...
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: wizboy11
Originally posted by: Modular
Originally posted by: Running
dont mean to thread jack but i put as5 on my mem chips, i have a x1800xl, is there anything wrong with that? there were thermal pads but i thought as5 was give it a better heat transfer from ram to thermal pad to cooler?


Yes, you should never apply AS5 to the RAM chips. I don't remember the exact reason so I'll give you what I remember...

AS5 can pass a slight electromagnetic current which can mess up the memory chips. I believe the reason that the core is not in danger of this is because it has lower clock speeds than the memory.

I would uninstall your cooler and take the AS5 off of the RAM chips ASAP.

Replace it with some normal thermal paste or some thermal pads.



Edit:
Don't put AS5 on your memory chips since they're capacitive


http://planetamd64.com/lofiversion/index.php/t18394.html


The memory chips are capacitive, and since AS is electrically conductive, this can cause a charge to build on the chips and ruin them.

Actually, technically, AS5 does not conduct electricity.

So, TECHNICALLY you should be alright putting them on the ram. (note, TECHNICALLY). Personally, I would never do it. But you should actually be alright if it's working fine with it on the ram chips. (but please, never do it agian ;))

@OP:
82C is actually fine. It's a little hot for my taste so I'd still re-seat the HSF just to lower it at least a little. After all, isn't the default thottle speed like 130C!??

At least it works...


yeah, I'm really glad about it. If it really going to poop on me anytime sooner, I might have to reseat it. But as of now, the default throttle speed is 115 C and it ran all of the games...I'm just going to make the PC circulation a bit better, gonna need to add an exhaust fan on the back to help the card take out the crappy hot heat.

From what I learned from the EVGA forums...theres a quite a few users not having any luck with their 7600GT KOs at all, too many to worry about it. Geeze :roll:
 

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82 max is nothign bad at all its a little high but not OMGWTFBBQ GET A COOLER ALALALALA