after purchasing 2 sunon highout put fan, i simply was not getting good enough airflow in my system. I really do not want invest anymore money in fans to cool a cheap overclocked system. I was running 44c idle temp's with my duron with the case closed with the 1 fan setup as intake and 1 fan setup as exhaust as well as the ps setup as the exhaust. the intake fan is an 80mm high output which is LOUD as all hell. I just got sick of this crap and unplugged all the fans, and opened the case and stuck a small desk fan on low in front of it. This was my previous setup and now I am running at 37-38c idle temperatures...now this is more like it. Apart from a small rat going into my case or dust...i think this is a better solution for now. I just dont see myself spending 50+ bucks on fans total to cool a cpu that is the same price. ok im just ranting....