I found out last night that my uncle won a $1.5 mil (+) lawsuit.

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Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Dasm, sorry for the loss of your Aunt and you have the gumption to post your family contribution to what is one of the leading downfalls of the U.S., Bullsh!t court cases.

Do we all have to go into the Kitchen wearing Fire Gear now??? :confused:
No, just not a shirt that's going to erupt in flames when a little hot cooking oil splatters on it.

 

Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: Triumph
If the shirt was for some reason incredibly susceptible to catching fire, then sure it should've had a warning. If she turned into a human torch, then yes he should have won.

That is what I am thinking and proably true since the shirt people settled out of court. I have caught a couple of my cotton shirts on fire before and a few pats put it out. Im thinking the shirt your Aunt was wearing was very flamable and went up like a rag soaked in kerosene. It happend so fast that she didnt have time to put it out before she got burned enough to die from it.

you people who say you wouldnt sue are living in a fantasy world. if that happend to a loved one, and a lawyer came to you explaining that the shirt your loved one was wearing when it caught fire was manufactured with all kinds of flammable chemicals, you would seriously rethink your position, especially seeing your loved one die after enduring 3 days of unimaginable pain and suffering.

that being said. yes i would sue.
Yeah, that! Sometimes I'm utterly disappointed with how hastily people jump to conclusions on this forum without even thinking things out. You may still hold your opinion at the end; however, is there any harm in processing your thought before reaching that conclusion?

I suspect that Tec699 himself doesn't understand the whole story and may have omitted some relevant pieces. Yes, say all clothing materials are flammable. However, one is more easily flammable than another. It's fair to infer that it was the case here because, according to Tech699's account of the event, the lady suffered a third degree burn after grease jumped on her clothing. It didn't say fire, but grease! I have had grease jump on my clothing all the time when I'm frying something, but never once did I have to worry about my clothing catching fire--even in close proximity with the [gas] cooker. It's quite unusual, which tells much about the material of her shirt. I think that they had every reason to sue in this case. I would have sued too. I would like to think that I don't have to worry about suffering a 3rd degree burn every time I'm frying something--just due to oil making its way....
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: DearQT
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: Triumph
If the shirt was for some reason incredibly susceptible to catching fire, then sure it should've had a warning. If she turned into a human torch, then yes he should have won.

That is what I am thinking and proably true since the shirt people settled out of court. I have caught a couple of my cotton shirts on fire before and a few pats put it out. Im thinking the shirt your Aunt was wearing was very flamable and went up like a rag soaked in kerosene. It happend so fast that she didnt have time to put it out before she got burned enough to die from it.

you people who say you wouldnt sue are living in a fantasy world. if that happend to a loved one, and a lawyer came to you explaining that the shirt your loved one was wearing when it caught fire was manufactured with all kinds of flammable chemicals, you would seriously rethink your position, especially seeing your loved one die after enduring 3 days of unimaginable pain and suffering.

that being said. yes i would sue.
Yeah, that! Sometimes I'm utterly disappointed with how hastily people jump to conclusions on this forum without even thinking things out. You may still hold your opinion at the end; however, is there any harm in processing your thought before reaching that conclusion?

I suspect that Tec699 himself doesn't understand the whole story and may have omitted some relevant pieces. Yes, say all clothing materials are flammable. However, one is more easily flammable than another. It's fair to infer that it was the case here because, according to Tech699's account of the event, the lady suffered a third degree burn after grease jumped on her clothing. It didn't say fire, but grease! I have had grease jump on my clothing all the time when I'm frying something, but never once did I have to worry about my clothing catching fire--even in close proximity with the [gas] cooker. It's quite unusual, which tells much about the material of her shirt. I think that they had every reason to sue in this case. I would have sued too. I would like to think that I don't have to worry about suffering a 3rd degree burn every time I'm frying something--just due to oil making its way....
I hate it when I actually agree with Luvly, it makes me question my own judgement:disgust:
 

OutHouse

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Citrix
for you people who say this is a stupid lawsuit. Do think product manufactures have a responsibilty to provide a safe product?
Of course, if you mean safe when used as intended. I'm sorry to hear about the OP's aunt, but dousing yourself in cooking grease and lighting yourself on fire is not using the shirt as intended. Driving drunk and too fast and killing yourself is not using Ford's product as intended either. It is abusing the product and the risk and blame should be placed squarely on the consumer/user, when it logically belongs.

How fscking hard is this to understand?

Should you be able to sue a food supplier or restaurant because you choke from not chewing your food properly?

The OP's uncle and his lawyers are everything that is wrong with this country. I feel sorry for the OP for losing his aunt, I feel sorry for the OP's aunt for the pain she must have went through in such a horrible death, but I hope the OP's uncle burns in hell for all eternity for callously turning the horrible death of his wife into winning the lottery.

you are a retard. she was using the shirt as INTENDED, she was wearing it as a SHIRT! Some chemical in the fabric made her shirt flame up when hot grease slattered on it and killed her. WTF was she suppose to do, wear it as a sock?

 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Citrix
for you people who say this is a stupid lawsuit. Do think product manufactures have a responsibilty to provide a safe product?
Of course, if you mean safe when used as intended. I'm sorry to hear about the OP's aunt, but dousing yourself in cooking grease and lighting yourself on fire is not using the shirt as intended. Driving drunk and too fast and killing yourself is not using Ford's product as intended either. It is abusing the product and the risk and blame should be placed squarely on the consumer/user, when it logically belongs.

How fscking hard is this to understand?

Should you be able to sue a food supplier or restaurant because you choke from not chewing your food properly?

The OP's uncle and his lawyers are everything that is wrong with this country. I feel sorry for the OP for losing his aunt, I feel sorry for the OP's aunt for the pain she must have went through in such a horrible death, but I hope the OP's uncle burns in hell for all eternity for callously turning the horrible death of his wife into winning the lottery.

you are a retard. she was using the shirt as INTENDED, she was wearing it as a SHIRT! Some chemical in the fabric made her shirt flame up when hot grease slattered on it and killed her. WTF was she suppose to do, wear it as a sock?
Cook Shirtless?
 

DainBramaged

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Sorry but your uncle is a fvcking prick, that's all there is to it, unless there was something unusual about the shirt, like a breath of hot air would make them spontaneously combust or something.

 

Baked

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Everybody should hope their spouse is that stupid and get killed during some mundane chore so they can sue the hell outta whoever they feel like.

1) Stupid people kill themselves
2) Stupid greedy spouse sues
3) ... WTFOMFGBBQ
4) Profit
5) #2 marries again, repeat steps 1-5.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Baked
Everybody should hope their spouse is that stupid and get killed during some mundane chore so they can sue the hell outta whoever they feel like.

1) Stupid people kill themselves
2) Stupid greedy spouse sues
3) ... WTFOMFGBBQ
4) Profit
5) #2 marries again, repeat steps 1-5.
So you guys think you are the only ones who can detect a frivolous lawsuit and all those who serve on juries are totally clueless?:roll:







 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Citrix
you are a retard. she was using the shirt as INTENDED, she was wearing it as a SHIRT! Some chemical in the fabric made her shirt flame up when hot grease slattered on it and killed her. WTF was she suppose to do, wear it as a sock?
And you can't fscking read. My advice is that you pour gasoline over your head, light yourself on fire, and then you family can sue the clothing manufacturer and get stinkin' rich. :roll:
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Baked
Everybody should hope their spouse is that stupid and get killed during some mundane chore so they can sue the hell outta whoever they feel like.

1) Stupid people kill themselves
2) Stupid greedy spouse sues
3) ... WTFOMFGBBQ
4) Profit
5) #2 marries again, repeat steps 1-5.
So you guys think you are the only ones who can detect a frivolous lawsuit and all those who serve on juries are totally clueless?:roll:
Civil jury trial verdicts do not have to be unanimous. So if you rephrased that to "the majority of those who serve on juries are totally clueless", then I would agree, because the majority of any group tends to be totally clueless -- or who was elected last November, Red? ;)
 

Baked

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Baked
Everybody should hope their spouse is that stupid and get killed during some mundane chore so they can sue the hell outta whoever they feel like.

1) Stupid people kill themselves
2) Stupid greedy spouse sues
3) ... WTFOMFGBBQ
4) Profit
5) #2 marries again, repeat steps 1-5.
So you guys think you are the only ones who can detect a frivolous lawsuit and all those who serve on juries are totally clueless?:roll:

I really think they should just get rid of the jury system. I've seen enough mistrials and horrible verdicts due to totally incompetent jury members. It's not justice, it's revenge.

 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Vic
Civil jury trial verdicts do not have to be unanimous. So if you rephrased that to "the majority of those who serve on juries are totally clueless", then I would agree, because the majority of any group tends to be totally clueless -- or who was elected last November, Red? ;)
Given the choices it's most likely they were voting for the lessor of the two evils, well at least in their opinion.

As far as juries go, I don't know what the statistics are but I would venture to guess that most frivilous lawsuits are thrown out of court. We don't know all the specifics of this case , definately not enough to be calling this guys Uncle a "Fscking Asshole" as Skoorb did or a money grabber like many others in this thread did.

Originally posted by: Baked
I've seen enough mistrials and horrible verdicts due to totally incompetent jury members. It's not justice, it's revenge.
You have? Do you work in the legal system?

 

tec699

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Wow.. I got a ton of responses.

Obviously this is a sore topic with most of the forum members. Let's end this topic and I'll find out the full story to this lawsuit. What I know is this...

1) A few years ago my aunt suffers 3rd degree burns due to grease splattering on her shirt. The shirt caught on fire and it quickly spreads to most of her upper body.

2) My aunt passes away a few days later.

3) Last night I have a discussion with my mom about moving out of my apartment due to my inconsiderate downstairs neighbor. She asks me if I have the money for the first and last months rent and the security deposit. I told her no and she jokingly tells me that I should ask my uncle because he won a 1.5 million dollar verdict.

4) This is news to me and my mom informs me that he was awarded the money due to a lawsuit he had against the shirt manufacture.

That's about all I know at this time. I'll ask my mom to further explain how the shirt manufacture was at fault and maybe I'll even call my uncle so he can better expalin the case to me. I'm interested in this case and there has to be more to it than what I've been told.

Thanks.

 

Vic

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Just to clarify though, if you read the OP, you would know that this case never went to trial or was heard by a jury. There's a reason for that. In our screwed-up civil justice system, the defendant gains almost nothing by fighting a suit brought against them. If one has the money, it's often much cheaper to settle.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: Yossarian
Originally posted by: mugs
Go borrow your aunt's clothes and fry me up some chicken, bitch.

that's a pretty fvcked up thing to write.

Well I really could go for some fried chicken, and how often do you see people post "DIAF" here? Same thing. I could have gone on and on about how this is a frivolous lawsuit and his uncle is a worthless POS for expecting the shirt company to be responsible for his wife's accident, but that's been pretty well covered by many other people in this thread.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Yossarian
Originally posted by: mugs
Go borrow your aunt's clothes and fry me up some chicken, bitch.

that's a pretty fvcked up thing to write.

Well I really could go for some fried chicken, and how often do you see people post "DIAF" here? Same thing. I could have gone on and on about how this is a frivolous lawsuit and his uncle is a worthless POS for expecting the shirt company to be responsible for his wife's accident, but that's been pretty well covered by many other people in this thread.
And in the end you would have come across just as ignorant as you did with far fewer words. Good Job!:thumbsup:
 

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Originally posted by: tec699
My aunt was killed a few years ago when her shirt caught on fire. She was in front of her stove and the grease from the frying pan shot up, caught her shirt and in-turn she got severe 3rd degree burns. She passed away a few days later at the local hospital.

My uncle sued the shirt manufacture because the label didn't state that the shirt wasn't flame resistant. There was NOTHING! The shirt manufacture must have been in deep sh*t because the case was settled out of court. After the lawyer fees my uncle walked away with over 1.5 million (+). My mom told me that I'm in his will when he passes away.

So should someone be awarded such a high amount or was the shirt manufacture at fault? If it happened to someone that you loved, would you do the same as my uncle?


I just wanted to take a second to tell you I'm sorry for your family's loss, dying as result of burns has got to be the most horrific ending imaginable.I cannot imagine the pain your aunt must have endured or the anguish everyone must have felt when it was happening.
 

tec699

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Yossarian
Originally posted by: mugs
Go borrow your aunt's clothes and fry me up some chicken, bitch.

that's a pretty fvcked up thing to write.

Well I really could go for some fried chicken, and how often do you see people post "DIAF" here? Same thing. I could have gone on and on about how this is a frivolous lawsuit and his uncle is a worthless POS for expecting the shirt company to be responsible for his wife's accident, but that's been pretty well covered by many other people in this thread.
And in the end you would have come across just as ignorant as you did with far fewer words. Good Job!:thumbsup:


Oh that's ok. I think Mugs and some of the other forum members are posting their nasty remarks due to emotion. When I posted my thread I was looking for some feedback. Again, I'll ask my uncle for the full story to this lawsuit.
 

tec699

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: tec699
My aunt was killed a few years ago when her shirt caught on fire. She was in front of her stove and the grease from the frying pan shot up, caught her shirt and in-turn she got severe 3rd degree burns. She passed away a few days later at the local hospital.

My uncle sued the shirt manufacture because the label didn't state that the shirt wasn't flame resistant. There was NOTHING! The shirt manufacture must have been in deep sh*t because the case was settled out of court. After the lawyer fees my uncle walked away with over 1.5 million (+). My mom told me that I'm in his will when he passes away.

So should someone be awarded such a high amount or was the shirt manufacture at fault? If it happened to someone that you loved, would you do the same as my uncle?


I just wanted to take a second to tell you I'm sorry for your family's loss, dying as result of burns has got to be the most horrific ending imaginable.I cannot imagine the pain your aunt must have endured or the anguish everyone must have felt when it was happening.


Thank you Geekbabe. When this happened her sister was just totally devastated. It didn't help matters that they were twins.

:(
 

Mill

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It sounds like you listen to the Phil Hendrie show a lot because this is ripped straight from him.
 

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Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
*sigh*

people just need an excuse to sue in this country

I'm sure you would be singing a different tune if you were in line to inherit some significant portion of 1.5 mil...

*sigh* some people just need an exscues to cop a "holier-than-thou" pretentious @ss prick attitude...