I finally sold my last HD DVD player

[venkman]

Two years of watching the format live and die and buying and selling players and movies came to a close today. I sold an XA2 and I'm in the process of getting rid of my movies. I honestly though this day would never come. Goodbye HD DVD. 🙁

 

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[nRollo]

Originally posted by: venkman
Two years of watching the format live and die and buying and selling players and movies came to a close today. I sold an XA2 and I'm in the process of getting rid of my movies. I honestly though this day would never come. Goodbye HD DVD. 🙁

LOL

I still have both of mine and am going to keep them and not buy BlueRay for a while just to say "I am POd" to Sony.

The whole thing annoys me, so I'm just going to watch upconverted DVDs, even though the money to switch to Blue Ray isn't a problem for me.

 

[Genx87]

I'll hold onto my player and watch the movies. But the majority of my movie experience is through recording on my TiVo with playback from my server. Then netflix. At this rate wondering if I'll ever get on the Blu-Ray bandwagon. I figured it would be when 2.0 players hit 150 bucks. But the reality is there are other avenues to get HD movies and it will only be more simple each passing day.

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: nRollo

Originally posted by: venkman
Two years of watching the format live and die and buying and selling players and movies came to a close today. I sold an XA2 and I'm in the process of getting rid of my movies. I honestly though this day would never come. Goodbye HD DVD. 🙁

LOL

I still have both of mine and am going to keep them and not buy BlueRay for a while just to say "I am POd" to Sony.

The whole thing annoys me, so I'm just going to watch upconverted DVDs, even though the money to switch to Blue Ray isn't a problem for me.

I'm still picking up movies. Just ordered the remastered FMJ for around $15 and am getting Twister when it comes out in a week and a half.

I'm currently using an A2 and have an A3 I picked up on firesale sitting in the closet for whenever it craps out. Should be set for a while.

 

[Lucky Stripes 99]

I just picked up a Toshiba HD-A3 HD-DVD player last week for about $30 plus shipping and I'm already ditching it.

About seven years ago, I bought a first generation Toshiba 34" 1080i HDTV. I also purchased a middle-end Toshiba 480p progressive DVD player. Not a bad system, especially with the line doubler in the HDTV.

Only problem I had was that the DVD player was incompatible with Sony's new DVD copy protection system. Stick a disc in and it wouldn't play. Ten minutes with AnyDVD and Nero, I have a working DVD-R copy, so in the end, I was always able to watch the movie. However, being forced to rip and burn every copy protected movie I rented got annoying after a while.

So, seeing that HD-DVD players were dropping in price, I figured I'd pick one up on the cheap. They work with Sony's copy protected discs and include a much better 480->1080 upscaler than what I have in my first gen HDTV. As an added bonus, I'd even be able to burn my own mini HD-DVDs onto DVD-R.

I plug everything up, drop a DVD disc in and... "this disc is protected. Limiting output resolution to 480p".

So, I knew that HD-DVD would cripple the output resolution for hi-def movies if you used an analog component (Y-Pb-Pr) output. I was stunned that it did the same thing for regular DVDs. Since my television doesn't have an HDMI input, my only option is to rip each and every movie I own so that I can burn a copy without CSS protection. I'm not really interested in doing that.

Thanks Toshiba for punishing me for purchasing an early generation HDTV. Not only did you make a significant profit off of me with the first television, but now somebody gets to make even more profit when I am eventually forced to replace my current HDTV for a model with an HDMI input.

 

[Odeen]

Originally posted by: Lucky Stripes 99
...I plug everything up, drop a DVD disc in and... "this disc is protected. Limiting output resolution to 480p".

So, I knew that HD-DVD would cripple the output resolution for hi-def movies if you used an analog component (Y-Pb-Pr) output. I was stunned that it did the same thing for regular DVDs. Since my television doesn't have an HDMI input, my only option is to rip each and every movie I own so that I can burn a copy without CSS protection. I'm not really interested in doing that.

Thanks Toshiba for punishing me for purchasing an early generation HDTV. Not only did you make a significant profit off of me with the first television, but now somebody gets to make even more profit when I am eventually forced to replace my current HDTV for a model with an HDMI input.

http://www.monoprice.com/produ...rch.asp?keyword=hdfury

Stick it to 'em. HDMI to DVI adapter, DVI to HD Fury, HD Fury to TV.

 

[pennylane]

Originally posted by: Lucky Stripes 99
I plug everything up, drop a DVD disc in and... "this disc is protected. Limiting output resolution to 480p".

So, I knew that HD-DVD would cripple the output resolution for hi-def movies if you used an analog component (Y-Pb-Pr) output. I was stunned that it did the same thing for regular DVDs. Since my television doesn't have an HDMI input, my only option is to rip each and every movie I own so that I can burn a copy without CSS protection. I'm not really interested in doing that.

Thanks Toshiba for punishing me for purchasing an early generation HDTV. Not only did you make a significant profit off of me with the first television, but now somebody gets to make even more profit when I am eventually forced to replace my current HDTV for a model with an HDMI input.

I'm fairly certain that the A3 plays HD-DVD's over analog (component) at HD resolutions but won't upscale regular DVD's to HD resolutions over analog (component).

 

[Shawn]

Originally posted by: fanerman91

Originally posted by: Lucky Stripes 99
I plug everything up, drop a DVD disc in and... "this disc is protected. Limiting output resolution to 480p".

So, I knew that HD-DVD would cripple the output resolution for hi-def movies if you used an analog component (Y-Pb-Pr) output. I was stunned that it did the same thing for regular DVDs. Since my television doesn't have an HDMI input, my only option is to rip each and every movie I own so that I can burn a copy without CSS protection. I'm not really interested in doing that.

Thanks Toshiba for punishing me for purchasing an early generation HDTV. Not only did you make a significant profit off of me with the first television, but now somebody gets to make even more profit when I am eventually forced to replace my current HDTV for a model with an HDMI input.

I'm fairly certain that the A3 plays HD-DVD's over analog (component) at HD resolutions but won't upscale regular DVD's to HD resolutions over analog (component).

yep

 

[Odeen]

I never understood the point of blocking upscaling, or of copy-protecting the DVI/HDMI data stream. If I'm a dedicated content capturer, I do NOT want to capture any data that I can just recreate at my own leisure. I don't want component video whose resolution exceeds the source content. I don't want the full-bandwidth analog video, period (since I'd end up capturing full resolution brightness and color, whereas DVD's have half the color resolution than they do brightness. I don't even want uncompressed digital video, as the storage requirements are insane, and compressing it again would introduce a second set of compression artifacts.

The only data I want is the ORIGINAL MPEG2 / MPEG4 / H264 content straight off the disc - the data I can dump to another disc or store on a computer with reasonable space requirements and without an extra generation of A/D conversion and video compression. If the discs are sufficiently protected from copying, or if the broadcast is sufficiently scrambled that capturing the bits won't give me usable video, then I can't make the full-quality copies I want.

Show me anyone who pirates upscaled analog video... seriously.

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: venkman
Two years of watching the format live and die and buying and selling players and movies came to a close today. I sold an XA2 and I'm in the process of getting rid of my movies. I honestly though this day would never come. Goodbye HD DVD. 🙁

how much do you want for movies? 🙂

 

[XMan]

Why not keep your movies? You can buy an HD-DVD ROM drive from Computer Geeks for 25 bucks, rip your HD-DVDs, and burn them to Blu Rays when burnable media and drives gets cheaper. Saves having to buy them all over again.

 

[Wuzup101]

I get that stupid "copy protection can't up-convert (limited to 480p) whatever..." message even over HDMI on both of my HD-A2's... Just watched national treasure 2 yesterday and the message was there at the beginning... should have put it in my PS3...

 

[kenrippy]

Originally posted by: XMan
Why not keep your movies? You can buy an HD-DVD ROM drive from Computer Geeks for 25 bucks, rip your HD-DVDs, and burn them to Blu Rays when burnable media and drives gets cheaper. Saves having to buy them all over again.

when will BD media get cheaper? i'm still waiting for DL DVDs to get more affordable. i still buy DL discs, but i only use them for "special" occasions.

 

[XMan]

Originally posted by: kenrippy

Originally posted by: XMan
Why not keep your movies? You can buy an HD-DVD ROM drive from Computer Geeks for 25 bucks, rip your HD-DVDs, and burn them to Blu Rays when burnable media and drives gets cheaper. Saves having to buy them all over again.

when will BD media get cheaper? i'm still waiting for DL DVDs to get more affordable. i still buy DL discs, but i only use them for "special" occasions.

9 bucks a disk is a little steep, I'll admit. But CD's were much the same a year or two before they went down.

 

[kenrippy]

Originally posted by: XMan

Originally posted by: kenrippy

Originally posted by: XMan
Why not keep your movies? You can buy an HD-DVD ROM drive from Computer Geeks for 25 bucks, rip your HD-DVDs, and burn them to Blu Rays when burnable media and drives gets cheaper. Saves having to buy them all over again.

when will BD media get cheaper? i'm still waiting for DL DVDs to get more affordable. i still buy DL discs, but i only use them for "special" occasions.

9 bucks a disk is a little steep, I'll admit. But CD's were much the same a year or two before they went down.

i won't hold my breath for BD media to come down to affordable prices. DL media should be first, then i'll start to look forward to BD prices being lower.

 

[Lucky Stripes 99]

Originally posted by: Odeen
Stick it to 'em. HDMI to DVI adapter, DVI to HD Fury, HD Fury to TV.

The main reason I picked up the HD-DVD player in the first place was because it was cheap (~$40 shipped).

By the time I have paid for an HDFury, I simply could have purchased a nice upscaling DVD player like a Helios H4000.

Furthermore, the wording of that HDFury link was slightly vague regarding HDCP compliance. Everything on the chain, may it be HDMI or DVI-D, needs to be HDCP compliant or else the HD-DVD player will bypass the upscaler (for legacy DVD movies) or downscale the video (for HD-DVD movies).

Meh.