I don't understand women that post naked pictures of themselves on the internet

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AMDZen

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What don't you get? They're beautiful women who like to show off.

They are turned on by the fact that they know you are turned on by looking at them. And thus sit around getting off on the thought that you are getting off.

Do I need to teach you about the birds and bees OP?
 

SMOGZINN

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I'm a jerk? How so? I just stated a phenomenon i observed and asked for opinions of American ATOTers. I never assumed i'm right and they are wrong.
Yes, you do. Your post reads as extremely judgmental. You are most definitely saying that they are wrong for doing such a thing, you even state that it is so wrong that they should want to commit suicide over it.

I just cannot understand the fact that normal women; mothers, housewives, teachers; would post their naked pictures -with the face showing- on the internet for everyone to see; and everybody would be cool with it and not judge them for it.
Why do you see it as so wrong? What is so bad about their bodies that it is so terrible that that chose to show them?
What is so important that they must hide it or be a bad person? Guess what, I know that women have boobs. Seeing them does not substantially change my opinion of a person.

Oh and last week a girl killed herself after her classmates harassed her about a porn video that she had starred in

Think about that statement for a moment. Are you telling us that the reason she committed suicide was because she posted a porn video? It had nothing to do with people harassing her? Nothing to do with her already fragile personality?
It could have just as easily have been a video of her doing something else, say pretending to be a jedi. What was important was that other people harassed her.
 

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What was important was that she killed herself. She was not killed by anyone else.


Guess you don't take much credence into the whole "bully" education movement that is going on. Dealing with assholes is part of life. But there's a line crossed where things go beyond being just called names. Persistant and continued abuse can push people into very dark places.
 

SMOGZINN

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Guess you don't take much credence into the whole "bully" education movement that is going on. Dealing with assholes is part of life. But there's a line crossed where things go beyond being just called names. Persistant and continued abuse can push people into very dark places.

Thank you for saying this better then I could.
 

Wyndru

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I don't understand the need to post any pictures of yourself online, especially while acting inappropriate.

It comes back to bite you...my wife's sister used to be a total bar and club chick and she had a ton of pictures of her doing dumb shit that she had no issues with posting on FB. Now guess what the top google image is for her name now? It's a picture of her with her fully sleeved ex-boyfriend's head between her crotch pretending to "pleasure her". It must have gotten tagged with her name and now it's everywhere. And she is marrying a lawyer who is trying to become a judge in a few months lol. Between that and her DWI's this guy better hope it doesn't affect his career any.
 

mrjminer

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Guess you don't take much credence into the whole "bully" education movement that is going on. Dealing with assholes is part of life. But there's a line crossed where things go beyond being just called names. Persistant and continued abuse can push people into very dark places.

Words don't make people kill themselves.
 

Paladin3

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Huh, you must have posted this while I was posting before I had a chance to read and comment on it. If the OP really is from India, then his opinion might be par for the course there, whether we understand it or not, and hypocrite or not.

But gals and guys have killed themselves for whatever reason after doing porns before. And it happened here just recently, too.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/22/alyssa-funke-suicide-porn_n_5373138.html

I don't see porn as personally empowering for anyone doing it, in spite of what is often said to the contrary about it. The only people who are really empowered by it at all, and monetarily, are really the producers of it, not the actors in it. Because once you put it out there on the internet, there is probably no take backs or do overs, for anyone. So people doing it had better be prepared for a possible backlash from anyone they might know who sees it or even just disagrees with it.

Firstly, please don't explain how the world works to me like I am some ignorant child who just doesn't understand it. Of course porn can ruin lives. Of course people post nude selfies and regret it later. I'm not naive and never said porn was personally empowering or anything that silly.

I called out the OP for his post that he views porn, but doesn't understand how women do that without wanting to kill themselves. That's dangerous talk and I can't believe you would defend his words.

The OP being from India has nothing to do with right and wrong. It's wrong to suggest consenting adults should kill themselves over nude photos. I don't cut someone slack for having backwards opinions just because they come from a culture with backwards opinions.
 

Paladin3

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The only reason I'm responding to you is that I think that this is actually a serious response and not an attempt at being a dick.

I'm a jerk? How so? I just stated a phenomenon i observed and asked for opinions of American ATOTers. I never assumed i'm right and they are wrong. FYI there exists an /r/indiansgonewild too, but nobody shows their faces over there.

The women in porn are porn-stars. Read the OP again dumbass. I said that these women don't appear to be porn-stars, they look like regular women. I just cannot understand the fact that normal women; mothers, housewives, teachers; would post their naked pictures -with the face showing- on the internet for everyone to see; and everybody would be cool with it and not judge them for it.

Oh and last week a girl killed herself after her classmates harassed her about a porn video that she had starred in

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...-bully-appearing-porn-flick-article-1.1802744


So take your "'murrika most sexually liberated cuntry" bullshit and shove it up your asshole.

Lemme s'plain in small words. I respect human life enough to not suggest it would be normal to want to kill yourself over nude selfies. Sorry you don't agree.

I've got two daughters, 18 and 13. I'd be disappointed in them if they posted nude selfies, but I'd never suggest suicide be the way to handle it. Sorry you don't agree.

Maybe it was a poor choice of words on your part. Maybe you didn't literally mean "Any normal person would probably kill themselves!" but that is exactly what you posted.

Even more hypocritical is that you admit to viewing porn. You don't sound very ashamed about it, just amazed that women don't feel ashamed about it enough to kill themselves. Then you bring culture and nationality into it and quote something I never even said.

I'm not bagging on your culture, though it sure could use some criticism. I'm criticizing your opinions because they are shit. Don't make this into an India vs U.S. battle, or a porn is good battle. I never said any of that.

So stand by your words: "I don't know how these women live with themselves after spreading their naked pics all over the internet. Any normal person would probably kill themselves!" or shut the fuck up. That's dangerous talk, just like that harassment that cause Alyssa Funke to kill herself.

We clear now?

EDIT: Yes I tossed out a culturally insensitive barb by saying "I don't cut someone slack for having backwards opinions just because they come from a culture with backwards opinions" one post up, but the OP earned it and brought up nationality way before I did.
 
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Paladin3

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Words don't make people kill themselves.

Harassment can lead someone who is already in a fragile state of mind to harm themselves. You can say whatever you want, but people who bully others are not harmless or blame free if something does happen.

You can step over a dying person and say you did nothing to hurt them, but neither did you do anything to help them when you could have. Callousness is an equally evil act, if you ask me.
 

Newell Steamer

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They love the attention and excitement.

Remember, women are human beings. And, they have appetites; they post these pics to work up a fervor and some even choose a few to have sex with.
 

mrjminer

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Harassment can lead someone who is already in a fragile state of mind to harm themselves. You can say whatever you want, but people who bully others are not harmless or blame free if something does happen.

You can step over a dying person and say you did nothing to hurt them, but neither did you do anything to help them when you could have. Callousness is an equally evil act, if you ask me.

Equating stepping over a dying person and doing nothing is not even in the same ballpark.

You know what causes people to kill themselves? Their fucked up state of mind, which you correctly identify. However, words do not make people kill themselves, no matter how hard you want to believe it. What makes people kill themselves is their own problems, not the problems people just say they have. Someone sucks a dick for money and gets called a dicksucker, then kills themselves over it. The problem isn't that they got called a dicksucker, the problem is that they had problems with themselves for being a dicksucker for cash
 

Fritzo

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People that post pictures like that do it for the attention, but realize the Internet is a huge place, so the chances of them being seen by anyone they know is virtually nil.
 

Paladin3

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Equating stepping over a dying person and doing nothing is not even in the same ballpark.

You know what causes people to kill themselves? Their fucked up state of mind, which you correctly identify. However, words do not make people kill themselves, no matter how hard you want to believe it. What makes people kill themselves is their own problems, not the problems people just say they have. Someone sucks a dick for money and gets called a dicksucker, then kills themselves over it. The problem isn't that they got called a dicksucker, the problem is that they had problems with themselves for being a dicksucker for cash

I don't even want to have is debate. If you thinking bullying someone who later commits suicide is a blame free act, then more power to you. You may not have directly caused their death, but you can't say you "did no harm."
 

inf1nity

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Lemme s'plain in small words. I respect human life enough to not suggest it would be normal to want to kill yourself over nude selfies. Sorry you don't agree.
So do I, but that doesn't change the fact that many people have killed themselves out of shame in such matters.

I've got two daughters, 18 and 13. I'd be disappointed in them if they posted nude selfies, but I'd never suggest suicide be the way to handle it. Sorry you don't agree.

Why would you be disappointed? According to your logic, its totally okay for women to post naked pictures of themselves on the internet. Shouldn't you be proud of them for growing up exactly the way you wanted them to?

Maybe it was a poor choice of words on your part. Maybe you didn't literally mean "Any normal person would probably kill themselves!" but that is exactly what you posted.

No it wasn't a poor choice of words. I do think that anybody with even an ounce of self-respect would not post naked pictures of themselves all over the internet.

Even more hypocritical is that you admit to viewing porn. You don't sound very ashamed about it, just amazed that women don't feel ashamed about it enough to kill themselves. Then you bring culture and nationality into it and quote something I never even said.

Read the OP again. IF a woman willingly choses to be a porn star, thats a different issue. However, when a regular woman posts easily identifiable pictures with their private parts showing on the internet, it does feel a little weird.

Let me ask you a question. Lets say you come across a picture of your 18 year old daughter on the internet, posing naked, her face showing. How would you feel? Would you simply pass it off as "Oh its just another photo. Whats the big deal?" I don't think so.

So stand by your words: "I don't know how these women live with themselves after spreading their naked pics all over the internet. Any normal person would probably kill themselves!" or shut the fuck up. That's dangerous talk, just like that harassment that cause Alyssa Funke to kill herself.

What the hell are you talking about? Who am i harrasing? I am merely stating an observation.
 

mrjminer

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I don't even want to have is debate. If you thinking bullying someone who later commits suicide is a blame free act, then more power to you. You may not have directly caused their death, but you can't say you "did no harm."

Words do no harm (except, I will say, in the cases of legitimate threats) to people that don't have their own severe problems that are in no way the responsibility of others. Some people simply can't accept the truth, and that is their flaw, not the flaw of the person speaking the truth.

I assure you that I, indeed, can say that words do no harm, because they don't. The harm is caused by people so incapable of dealing with their own issues that they are unable to also deal with words. Everyone has their own shit that offends them of makes them feel bad, but this is not due to words, and equating words to harm instead of correctly attributing the harm to the general failures of the human psyche is nonsense.
 

WHAMPOM

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So i recently started visiting reddit. I usually hang out on /r/India where i discuss politics with fellow countrymen, but i recently discovered the "porn" subreddits such as /r/gonewild, /r/realgirls, /r/legalteens and the variety of subreddits dedicated to different body parts.

What surprised me that in a lot of these pictures, women had their faces clearly visible. And no i am not talking about pornstars, i am talking about regular women that post pictures of their butts, titties and various other parts with their face clearly showing! I don't know how these women live with themselves after spreading their naked pics all over the internet. Any normal person would probably kill themselves!

Another thing i have noticed that most of these women are white, maybe american. So is this an american thing? Is it considered okay in america to post naked selfies of yourself on the internet?

They consider themselves not to be third class human beings like your Indian women do?
 

alkemyst

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Words do no harm (except, I will say, in the cases of legitimate threats) to people that don't have their own severe problems that are in no way the responsibility of others. Some people simply can't accept the truth, and that is their flaw, not the flaw of the person speaking the truth.

I assure you that I, indeed, can say that words do no harm, because they don't. The harm is caused by people so incapable of dealing with their own issues that they are unable to also deal with words. Everyone has their own shit that offends them of makes them feel bad, but this is not due to words, and equating words to harm instead of correctly attributing the harm to the general failures of the human psyche is nonsense.

You saying everyone has no failures of their psyche is nonsense as well.

Go post up your public details and your opinion that this girl got 'what she deserved' on all the anon sites Mr. Internet Badass and see how just words can affect you.

Waterboarding (when done properly) also will never kill you, but even hardened soldiers fail that test usually even knowing they aren't physically being permanently harmed.

Guess they just have problems with their psyche too.
 

mrjminer

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You saying everyone has no failures of their psyche is nonsense as well.

Go post up your public details and your opinion that this girl got 'what she deserved' on all the anon sites Mr. Internet Badass and see how just words can affect you.

Waterboarding (when done properly) also will never kill you, but even hardened soldiers fail that test usually even knowing they aren't physically being permanently harmed.

Guess they just have problems with their psyche too.

I didn't say everyone has "no failures of their psyche," in fact I said the exact opposite. Nor did I say that she got what she deserved. What I said was that words are not the cause of her killing herself: she was. Now you're trying to act as though I've been equating a physical act such as waterboarding to slinging a word at someone? I'd call you a dumb fuck, but I might get convicted of murder if your pathetic ass killed yourself as a result according to some of the people in this thread.
 
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WelshBloke

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I didn't say everyone has "no failures of their psyche," in fact I said the exact opposite. Nor did I say that she got what she deserved. What I said was that words are not the cause of her killing herself: she was. Now you're trying to act as though I've been equating a physical act such as waterboarding to slinging a word at someone? I'd call you a dumb fuck, but I might get convicted of murder if your pathetic ass killed yourself as a result according to some of the people in this thread.

No he's right.

Go post up your details in the way he suggested and see if the ensuing shitstorm doesn't affect you.
 

mrjminer

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No he's right.

Go post up your details in the way he suggested and see if the ensuing shitstorm doesn't affect you.

To open myself up to real world violence from illiterate idiots? I think not.

But yes, he's right. If you can't read and just state the exact opposite of what I said and treat it as if I said those conjured statements, that is.
 

lupi

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So what I'm getting here is that there is some redemption for reddit existing?