It pisses me off that they do not allow for grade skipping anymore like they used to in the 50s and early 60s. They used to do grade skipping because a student was academically advanced and or "gifted" and wanted to have the student at the appropriate academic level. Apparently, they stopped grade skipping because while the students were academically advanced, they were not "equally socially mature".. Now, hows this for a question: If a student is socially advanced but not academically advanced, should you let them skip a grade? They abstained from skipping grades because of their concerns for the students not being socially advanced, but if they are socially advanced but not academically advanced? Or is it, unless they're both, then there isn't a point.. But then you could say, what about the slow students? Why do they get to be in that grade if they're below average?
I don't understand grade skipping....why they don't do it anymore..
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I remember subbing for a second grade class and the teacher told me the student should be in fourth grade because of how intelligent he was, but she was "concerned" he wouldn't fit in with other student. I hate that shit. Then they shove all the retards in with the other students and hold everyone back.
High school is really tough...these problems matter!
On a serious note, just mention all the observation time you have watching upperclassmen, and how that is just as good as actual experience being an upperclassman.
On a serious note, just mention all the observation time you have watching upperclassmen, and how that is just as good as actual experience being an upperclassman.
Schools also won't hold kids back for this reason. It doesn't matter if they suck at math and are retarded.
Actually, when I was in middle school one student WAS held back! So I guess the trend in this country is to put a glass ceiling over all of our children!
I was "double promoted" I had completed the coursework of the entire 1st grade by the first reporting period (I think it was done in "quarters" back then, roughly 2 months). I was continuously done with work assignments within minutes of them being handed out. Had completely read the "reading" book they intended to use for the entire year and completed the questions. Same with the Math book. It was totally finished and I was just handing in the paperwork when given the assignment.
They put me in 2nd grade and the teacher slowed me down by not giving me the questions anymore. The following year I went to 3rd grade, simply a year younger than everyone else.
Mentally I was fine - just a little ribbing for being a year younger than everyone else. 6th-7th-8th-9th grade was hard - esp since I didn't hit *ahem* physical maturity until I was almost 14, so gym class and swimming and whatnot were even more trying than for a typical kid for me since I was WAY behind everybody else.
Otherwise I don't think I had any horrible experience due to it.
They put me in 2nd grade and the teacher slowed me down by not giving me the questions anymore. The following year I went to 3rd grade, simply a year younger than everyone else.
Mentally I was fine - just a little ribbing for being a year younger than everyone else. 6th-7th-8th-9th grade was hard - esp since I didn't hit *ahem* physical maturity until I was almost 14, so gym class and swimming and whatnot were even more trying than for a typical kid for me since I was WAY behind everybody else.
Otherwise I don't think I had any horrible experience due to it.
yhelothar
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There was this 14yr old kid in my physics class when I went to my JC.
He was homeschooled for elementary school but did middle school to get some public school experience, and he just took a test to get his high school diploma.
He didn't seem socially immature and still made quite a few friends. If anything, he's more socially mature from not hanging out with 14yr old tards. Is that missing out on childhood? Maybe if you wanna be a 14yr old tard.
He was homeschooled for elementary school but did middle school to get some public school experience, and he just took a test to get his high school diploma.
He didn't seem socially immature and still made quite a few friends. If anything, he's more socially mature from not hanging out with 14yr old tards. Is that missing out on childhood? Maybe if you wanna be a 14yr old tard.
TecHNooB
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TridenT
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What are you talking about? Plenty of schools allow this...
All you need to do is talk to the principal with your parents and then maybe take a test or something. I think it's a lot easier to do when you're in elementary and maybe middle school. High school grade skipping might be more difficult, but you can just start college and get high school credits that way.
All you need to do is talk to the principal with your parents and then maybe take a test or something. I think it's a lot easier to do when you're in elementary and maybe middle school. High school grade skipping might be more difficult, but you can just start college and get high school credits that way.
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I skipped 1st grade as well, and like you, I had zero problems throughout the rest of my schooling. Was just a year younger than the majority of my classmates.
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AreaCode707
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I was that kid. Homeschooled, took my first community college class at 12 and was full time by 15. I wouldn't trade that for high school. I hung out with my high school age friends by taking the bus or driving and meeting them on their campus for lunch. Only difference was that when the bell rang they had to go inside and I could stay, study, read, do homework or, if I had a class go back to the college. It rocked. I took the CHSPE at 15 too (GED equiv) and wound up a jr in university at 18, went to a UC due to a transfer agreement. Saved years, money, frustration, time and learned how to handle both freedom and responsibility much younger than "normal".
It's not for everyone but it was great for me.
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They may not allow grade skipping as much anymore, but it is quite easy (in Texas at least) to just graduate a full year early like I did.
It's still done in some areas, but it's not as widespread as it used to be due to some problems that were occasionally found in those they promoted; usually having to do with social maladjustment. The sad thing is that research shows a tendency towards such maladjustment regardless of education level or peer environment, so it's really misplaced.
I never wanted it because I didn't want to leave my friends behind. Now in retrospect I wish I'd done it and found some other way to stay connected with friends. Of course I think it was harder back then, with no internet, cell phones, widespread distance or alternative education programs, etc.
I never wanted it because I didn't want to leave my friends behind. Now in retrospect I wish I'd done it and found some other way to stay connected with friends. Of course I think it was harder back then, with no internet, cell phones, widespread distance or alternative education programs, etc.
Sounds about right. People act similar to those around them. Put a woman around some babies and she'll start making weird noises that aren't even a real language!
I skipped from grade 2 to grade 4, this would have been in 1997. Of course at the time it seemed like a good idea and boosted my ego, and I had no problem keeping up with the academics of grade 4.
But it turned out to be the BIGGEST mistake in my life ever and I'm still paying for it with the issues it caused from instantaneously being made the target of bullying, not being able to fit in and being treated as an unwelcome outsider for most of my childhood years. My peers continuously insisted that I should be ashamed of myself and that I didn't deserve to have friends or have the same privileges as everyone else simply because I was "the smart kid".
My parents regret doing it, though it's not their fault as they couldn't have known. It's taken me years to heal from those wounds and deal with how it affected me in countless subconscious and indirect ways.
But it turned out to be the BIGGEST mistake in my life ever and I'm still paying for it with the issues it caused from instantaneously being made the target of bullying, not being able to fit in and being treated as an unwelcome outsider for most of my childhood years. My peers continuously insisted that I should be ashamed of myself and that I didn't deserve to have friends or have the same privileges as everyone else simply because I was "the smart kid".
My parents regret doing it, though it's not their fault as they couldn't have known. It's taken me years to heal from those wounds and deal with how it affected me in countless subconscious and indirect ways.
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This may be small comfort, but you didn't suffer those things because you skipped grades; you suffered them because you're intelligent. I chose not to skip grades, and was instead severely bullied and ostracized by my own class.
It doesn't matter what a truly gifted individual does, in America they will be outcast and abused. This society has no respect for intellect or academics.
Well if people don't know your real age then I don't see why it'd be an issue. It seems like to me the solution is to skip a few grades then maybe transfer to a different school. You are right though, that CAN be an issue and it's unfortunate for those that it does happen to. If there was a way to skip a grade without everybody knowing this wouldn't be an issue because then they wouldn't feel "threatened".
If you skip one elementary grade or one late high school grade you might get away with that. You'd never pass for the same age if you skip two or more, especially during the middle years. I don't care how smart they are, physically an 11 or 12yr old just won't pass for a high school freshman very often.
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Hmm..I would have missed a lot of fun stuff in high school if I had skipped out of it...
But I finished all my classes early...and had lots of study halls (aka...drive home) classes filling my last couple years.
Meh..everything works out in the end. Our experiences for better or worse are all part of the mixture.
But I finished all my classes early...and had lots of study halls (aka...drive home) classes filling my last couple years.
Meh..everything works out in the end. Our experiences for better or worse are all part of the mixture.
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