I don't think use of the word 'gay' should be disallowed

[soccerballtux]

many gay men do not personally take offense to this use of the term.

what is an acceptable replacement adjective?

 

[JEDIYoda]

Was it ever NOT allowed?? link...

 

[SlickSnake]

I don't know any gay men who are offended by that term, only lesbians seem to want a special designation, and sometimes get offended over being called gay, which is a different thing entirely. I'm only offended by one gay related term, and it's the bundle of sticks one that starts with an F.

 

[soccerballtux]

it's also offensive to my free speech rights

yeah I don't like the bundle of sticks/smokes word either.

 

[soccerballtux]

Was it ever NOT allowed?? link...

I have received 2-3 infractions for use.

the free speech issue is where it's really rubbing me

 

[sandorski]

What's so important in using it?

 

[soccerballtux]

What's so important in using it?

see, they're called rights because I don't have to justify them.

Do you have a justification to take them away?

 

[soccerballtux]

I don't know any gay men who are offended by that term, only lesbians seem to want a special designation, and sometimes get offended over being called gay, which is a different thing entirely. I'm only offended by one gay related term, and it's the bundle of sticks one that starts with an F.

I wonder if they're just trying to be amicable and secretly deep down wish it weren't the case

 

[sandorski]

see, they're called rights because I don't have to justify them.

Do you have a justification to take them away?

You are on a Private Website, you don't have Rights here.

 

[cabri]

I have received 2-3 infractions for use.

the free speech issue is where it's really rubbing me

Free speech is by the government.

The word along with others has multiple uses. As a result, without an intuitive/intelligent filter; it gets blocked.

 

[soccerballtux]

You are on a Private Website, you don't have Rights here.

so you admit ATF is against the bill of rights

 

[sandorski]

so you admit ATF is against the bill of rights

Moot

 

[soccerballtux]

Moot

I disagree. Hate speech is a long way from using the term 'gay' to describe something. As such, it should be allowed

 

[sandorski]

I disagree. Hate speech is a long way from using the term 'gay' to describe something. As such, it should be allowed

Just use a different word. FFS this is FWP.

 

[SlickSnake]

I disagree. Hate speech is a long way from using the term 'gay' to describe something. As such, it should be allowed

Using a sexually charged word like that in a derogatory manner would not be the same thing as using the word to describe someone as being gay. Were you using it in a derogatory manner?

Imbecile youths often think that frequently using that term (and others) to describe anything they don't like shows how cool they are, when nothing can be further from the truth. I would sincerely hope that most thoughtless, bullying kids would outgrow this stage at some point. And just reading the news you can probably see those same bullies doing far worse than just name calling.

To recap: Using a term like gay to talk about homosexuals would be OK, but using gay to demean, belittle or just insult someone is not an acceptable use.

 

[Sulaco]

many gay men do not personally take offense to this use of the term.

what is an acceptable replacement adjective?

Perhaps you could improve your vocabulary beyond that of a sixth grade boy. At which point you might find an entire thesaurus worth of adjectives more appropriate for conveying whatever emotion you're experiencing than prepubescent playground insults.

 

[Dude111]

many gay men do not personally take offense to this use of the term.

Gay means HAPPY also,i think it should depend on how its used in a post

 

[soccerballtux]

Just use a different word. FFS this is FWP.

can you recommend alternatives besides 'lame'?

 

[soccerballtux]

Using a sexually charged word like that in a derogatory manner would not be the same thing as using the word to describe someone as being gay. Were you using it in a derogatory manner?

Imbecile youths often think that frequently using that term (and others) to describe anything they don't like shows how cool they are, when nothing can be further from the truth. I would sincerely hope that most thoughtless, bullying kids would outgrow this stage at some point. And just reading the news you can probably see those same bullies doing far worse than just name calling.

To recap: Using a term like gay to talk about homosexuals would be OK, but using gay to demean, belittle or just insult someone is not an acceptable use.

not in a sexually derogative manner, simply in a 'that sucks' manner. which is interesting, because if the gender of the thing you're referring to is masculine, that too would be gay by implication. I'm not sure if that's where the negative connotation comes from regard 'sucks' though.

I don't usually use it against any person, gay or straight, either-- but to describe sub-par situations

 

[soccerballtux]

Perhaps you could improve your vocabulary beyond that of a sixth grade boy. At which point you might find an entire thesaurus worth of adjectives more appropriate for conveying whatever emotion you're experiencing than prepubescent playground insults.

this could actually become a problem professionally, and I think since I now understand that some gays could find it demeaning/belittling, that I will attempt to not use it. I still need an appropriate replacement to convey distaste though

 

[rudeguy]

not in a sexually derogative manner, simply in a 'that sucks' manner. which is interesting, because if the gender of the thing you're referring to is masculine, that too would be gay by implication. I'm not sure if that's where the negative connotation comes from regard 'sucks' though.

I don't usually use it against any person, gay or straight, either-- but to describe sub-par situations

I have used the term "gay" many, many times on this forum.

I have never used it as a negative term. Some people are gay. That doesn't make them bad people. Me saying that someone is gay is in no way a negative thing.

However you wanting to use it solely as a negative term should show you why you aren't allowed to use it. We have more than a few gay members here and they are nicer and offer more to this forum than 90% of the straight members.

So to make this nice and simple: gay is a not a negative word. You chose to use it as a negative word. You are not mature enough to use the word.

 

[soccerballtux]

I have used the term "gay" many, many times on this forum.

I have never used it as a negative term. Some people are gay. That doesn't make them bad people. Me saying that someone is gay is in no way a negative thing.

However you wanting to use it solely as a negative term should show you why you aren't allowed to use it. We have more than a few gay members here and they are nicer and offer more to this forum than 90% of the straight members.

So to make this nice and simple: gay is a not a negative word. You chose to use it as a negative word. You are not mature enough to use the word.

ok, can you answer the original question?

 

[WelshBloke]

ok, can you answer the original question?

The word 'gay' isn't disallowed. Insulting other members is disallowed.