"I don't think they existed," Kay tells Reuters

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onelove

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"I think that Mr. Kay and his team have looked very hard. I think the reason that they haven't found them is they're probably not there," Duelfer told NBC television earlier this month.
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The CIA has appointed Duelfer as Kay's successor. Also from Kay:
"We're not going to find much after June. Once the Iraqis take complete control of the government it is just almost impossible to operate in the way that we operate," Kay said.

"I think we have found probably 85 percent of what we're going to find," he said. "I think the best evidence is that they did not resume large-scale production and that's what we're really talking about."
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looking forward to hearing white house spin/damage control. maybe bush can fly back for easter dinner & see if he can show Duelfer where Kay should have looked for those actual weapons and massive stockpiles of agents... erm ... weapons programs.... er.... "capabilities"/"capability that Iraq sought" ... shux: "weapons of mass destruction related programs [EDIT: dozens of weapons of mass destruction-related program activities and significant amounts of equipment that Iraq concealed from the United Nations.]."

...wait, I think there's already a fundraising dinner scheduled, better just spin and move on.
 
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But, but, but .... what will Cad & Co do without the all-mighty Kay, Inspector Extraordinaire, rooting out all these WMD "activities"? I love it, activities. Like Iraq was having fund-raisers and bake sales to raise cash for a No Dong II or some crap ... :p
 
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"Honey, do you have the WMD?"
"I layed them down somewhere. Would you look in your purse?"

Bwuahahahaha!

Oh, sheezh, and some say Lucy is dead.... :)

Poor GW....

-Robert
 
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http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-fg-cheney23jan23,1,145275,print.story?coll=la-headlines-frontpage

Cheney Is Adamant on Iraq 'Evidence'
Vice president revives assertions on banned weaponry and links to Al Qaeda that other administration officials have backed away from

by Greg Miller

WASHINGTON ? Vice President Dick Cheney revived two controversial assertions about the war in Iraq on Thursday, declaring there was "overwhelming evidence" that Saddam Hussein had a relationship with Al Qaeda and that two trailers discovered after the war were proof of Iraq's biological weapons programs.

The vice president stood by positions that others in the Bush administration have largely abandoned in recent months, as preliminary analysis of the trailers has been called into question and new evidence ? including a document found with Hussein when he was captured ? cast doubt on theories that Iraq and Al Qaeda collaborated.

Cheney's comments were seen as stoking the controversy over Iraq as the vice president was embarking on a trip to an economic summit in Switzerland and meetings with European officials, some of them fierce opponents of the war who have been dismissive of U.S. claims about the threat posed by Iraq.
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Is it possible Cheney is off the reservation? All of those procedures to fix his ticker may have given him drain bamage.
 
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I've always believed they keep Cheney frozen in between appearances, and then they just thaw him out when they need him to appear somewhere. He can't really be expected to keep up on current events in his cryo chamber now can he? It would explain his demeanor too... :D

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Bwuahahaha!

Oh, man you're killing me! :)

Too funny. Yeah, Cheney always looks and sounds like he's on life support. I wonder if Bush is going to actually keep him around for another four years. Might need to drop the temps down a few hundred degrees though.... :)

-Robert
 
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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
But, but, but .... what will Cad & Co do without the all-mighty Kay, Inspector Extraordinaire, rooting out all these WMD "activities"? I love it, activities. Like Iraq was having fund-raisers and bake sales to raise cash for a No Dong II or some crap ... :p
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Didn't someone in the Bush administration already start using the phrase "dangerous weapons"?

(Re. Cad & Co., I'm sure they'll make something up.)
 
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Originally posted by: conehead433
What happened to Kay's willingness to lie on behalf of Bush?
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He didn't so much lie in his report as load it up with lots of unsupported innuendo, e.g., labs that could be used for WMD research ... < mumble > even though we found zero evidence they ever were used for WMD research < /mumble >.
 
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Does this negate any usage of kay's previous report? I'm just wondering if some will brush this aside and say "So what? In his report he said...".
 
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Originally posted by: Gaard
Does this negate any usage of kay's previous report? I'm just wondering if some will brush this aside and say "So what? In his report he said...".
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In what way? Kay's report never supported most of the claims attributed to it by wishful Bushies.
 
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Originally posted by: Insane3D
I've always believed they keep Cheney frozen in between appearances, and then they just thaw him out when they need him to appear somewhere. He can't really be expected to keep up on current events in his cryo chamber now can he? It would explain his demeanor too... :D

;)
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You stole my line, bastard ;)
 
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They went to Syria, we know where they are, and we're going to get them. We have to keep the Syrians from passing them to Hezbollah. We'll start in Lebanon. Here.
 
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If we knew they had weapons of mass destruction, why didn't we have an inkling WHERE they were located? It seems to me that the mere LEVEL of the threat advocated by Bush argues strongly that they should have been able to walk in and find at least one or two WMD. But NONE. Man, that is a knee slapper.

Even if they find WMD now, they will look like complete morons. And, if it turns out that SH was playing a dead hand, American intelligence will be to intelligence what military music is to music. Who will respect them?

I'll bet there are going to be some CIA boys telling their story in a few years. The story about how the politicians twisted arms and the "evidence" to promote the Bush war. It won't be pretty and Bush's legacy will be a tawdry one at best.

-Robert
 
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Originally posted by: chess9
If we knew they had weapons of mass destruction, why didn't we have an inkling WHERE they were located? It seems to me that the mere LEVEL of the threat advocated by Bush argues strongly that they should have been able to walk in and find at least one or two WMD. But NONE. Man, that is a knee slapper.

Even if they find WMD now, they will look like complete morons. And, if it turns out that SH was playing a dead hand, American intelligence will be to intelligence what military music is to music. Who will respect them?

I'll bet there are going to be some CIA boys telling their story in a few years. The story about how the politicians twisted arms and the "evidence" to promote the Bush war. It won't be pretty and Bush's legacy will be a tawdry one at best.
-Robert
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It has already started, but I'm sure there will be more to come. Here are a few related links:

Truthout: Interview: 27-Year CIA Veteran by Will Pitt
AT P&N: An Excellent Article on WMD
AT P&N: CBS 60 Minutes II - The Man Who Knew
AT P&N: CIA Analyst: 'No President has lied so baldly and so often and so demonstrably'
AT P&N: And the Spooks DID try to Tell Bush and His Advisors . . .
 
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