I didnt get fired ... i got DOUBLE FIRED !!

[jpiniero]

It's actually becoming increasingly difficult to get a full time job these days. Maybe if you work at a place that employees routintely work 60+ hours a week they might still do full time (since the hourly wage would be quite low so it might still be worth it) but companies have kind of realized they can save a ton of money because they don't have to pay any benefits.

Even places like Google; a large portion of their staff is contractors, which is pretty much the same thing as a temp.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

It's actually becoming increasingly difficult to get a full time job these days. Maybe if you work at a place that employees routintely work 60+ hours a week they might still do full time (since the hourly wage would be quite low so it might still be worth it) but companies have kind of realized they can save a ton of money because they don't have to pay any benefits.

Even places like Google; a large portion of their staff is contractors, which is pretty much the same thing as a temp.

Contractors in the sense of a direct hire - or from a consulting firm? There is a very substantial difference.

Direct hire consultants are usually pretty well paid to compensate the lack of benefits

 

[jpiniero]

Contractors in the sense of a direct hire - or from a consulting firm? There is a very substantial difference.

Direct hire consultants are usually pretty well paid to compensate the lack of benefits

I imagine Google does both but typically it is a consulting firm / intermediary.

 

[zinfamous]

Apologies - genuinely wasn't trying to be a dick with my question. I asked mostly because when I'm applying I honestly skip those over - just wondering if other people get that same feeling.

I commend anyone that works in life, no doubt. It's a bitch. I'm honestly about to quit my job after the holidays and I don't yet have a job lined up quite yet.

sounds like you might be looking for a temp job.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

I imagine Google does both but typically it is a consulting firm / intermediary.

Then I can definetly say the intermediary firm provides benefits (medical, 401k, etc)

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

sounds like you might be looking for a temp job.

Nah. Searching it out for a permanent. House is paid off, wife works..... I can wait

I honestly dont have to quit, I'm just at the point where I would rather spend 60-80 hour weeks applying for something new instead of dealing with incompetent fools.

 

[zinfamous]

Nah. Searching it out for a permanent. House is paid off, wife works..... I can wait

I honestly dont have to quit, I'm just at the point where I would rather spend 60-80 hour weeks applying for something new instead of dealing with incompetent fools.

well, what I'm saying is, US and world economy nose-diving into a recession isn't the best time to have no plan when you chose to quit a job that you actually have and you also happen to be (semi)responsible for other humans. ...unless you've already experienced such, anyway.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

well, what I'm saying is, US and world economy nose-diving into a recession isn't the best time to have no plan when you chose to quit a job that you actually have and you also happen to be (semi)responsible for other humans. ...unless you've already experienced such, anyway.

Eh consulting world is always hiring - be it an Unemployment of 3.7% or 7.3%. The reason? Turnover rate Is higher than at McDonalds. I wish I was kidding.

Regardless I'm at the point where I have a kiddo at home and cant work ridiculous hours and cant travel every week. But at least I'll be able to give some dickholes a 2 minute notice when I leave hehe

 

[jpiniero]

Then I can definetly say the intermediary firm provides benefits (medical, 401k, etc)

But they don't really.

No PTO
No Sick Pay (maybe if the state requires it)
No 401k, maybe if you are there a long time. Definitely no match.
Health Insurance is the bare minimum that Obamacare requires.

I imagine the intermediary company's margins are razor thin in most cases.

well, what I'm saying is, US and world economy nose-diving into a recession isn't the best time to have no plan when you chose to quit a job that you actually have and you also happen to be (semi)responsible for other humans. ...unless you've already experienced such, anyway.

Hard to have a recession when the economy isn't really growing. That being said, the stock market crashing/correcting doesn't necessairly mean a recession has to happen. Although I'm sure you would see layoffs.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

But they don't really.

No PTO
No Sick Pay (maybe if the state requires it)
No 401k, maybe if you are there a long time. Definitely no match.
Health Insurance is the bare minimum that Obamacare requires.

I imagine the intermediary company's margins are razor thin in most cases.

Probably just my bias then of working for a consulting firm that charges obscene hourly fees (but pays us halfway decent with decent benefits on top).

 

[Carson Dyle]

I don't see much difference working as a temp vs. working as a contractor (but be sure and make it sound important - call yourself a "consultant"). If you're being whored (er, hired) out as a full time employee working for a consulting firm, that's something different. That's just a job.

 

[Red Squirrel]

That sucks. Getting "That" meeting is one of my worse fears, I mean there are worse things, like being diagnosed with some terrible disease, but I'd say it's up there. There's not really a lot of good paying jobs here so I really don't know what I'd do.

I think this trend of mass layoffs is just going to get worse too. Things are easier to automate, industries are changing and there is just less need for human workers in general now days. There is also an endless desire for companies to outsource everything they can.

 

[Carson Dyle]

When I was (much) younger, I always thought to myself "it would be great to be fired from a job". Thinking, somewhat romantically, it would be because I told my boss off, or because I'd pushed the limits of what I could get away with (yeah, I'm a badass). Then it happened, and it didn't feel good. I wanted to punch someone.

Some years later, I got laid off during a recession from a totally boring job where I was just going through the motions. And I was never so happy in my life. It was like a little kick in the ass, and one of the best things that could have happened to me.

Just don't be in a position where you can't pay the next several months rent and buy beans and rice to put on the table.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

When I was (much) younger, I always thought to myself "it would be great to be fired from a job". Thinking, somewhat romantically, it would be because I told my boss off, or because I'd pushed the limits of what I could get away with (yeah, I'm a badass). Then it happened, and it didn't feel good. I wanted to punch someone.

Some years later, I got laid off during a recession from a totally boring job where I was just going through the motions. And I was never so happy in my life. It was like a little kick in the ass, and one of the best things that could have happened to me.

Just don't be in a position where you can't pay the next several months rent and buy beans and rice to put on the table.

This.

I'm about to quit my job and give a big F-U to a dickhole manager that is going to be stuck doing tasks that they thought they could always just pass on. Feels good just thinking about it.

I have zero qualms either with a paid off house. Instead of a 2 week notice I'll be giving a 2 second notice.

It's been the kick in the ass I need to stop traveling and stop working 60+ hour weeks to start hanging out with my kiddo more.

 

[SKORPI0]

Best of luck OP for a "permanent FT" job.

 

[DigDog]

Actually i didnt know - wasnt told this *minor detail* by the recruiter - that it was a temp job. This particular recruiter was very disappointing, so much so that the managers at work were contemplating revoking their mandate.

It was supposed to last 3 months but given that ive been looking for work since september and was nearly out of cash, any work is better than no work. Having always had an allergy for "certifications" (instead believing in the usefulness of BEING ABLE TO DO THE THING) ive found myself mostly squished into entry level jobs, so for me it's basically just Call Center Agent or Junior Admin at most.

In this particular job i receive pensions-paperwork in 5 different languages (EN, IT, ES, FR, HR), interpret it, validate the signatures and confirm the authority of the signees, then file it.

 

[VirtualLarry]

in 5 different languages (EN, IT, ES, FR, HR), interpret it,

and that's an entry-level job? Requires being able to read five languages? Really?
In this country, you just need to be able to flip burgers, and say "Do you want fries with that", to make an easy $12/hr.

Best of luck finding a decent FT position.

 

[DigDog]

Here they wanted to pay a database administrator £18k/year.

Im only fluent in 2 languages, but i can read 3 more. It wasnt ... omg ok so, it wasnt a requirement but the campaign depends on having multilingual people onboard to interpret the various docs that come in; we get Power of Attorney docs, Doctors Care docs, Tutorship, Auto-certifications, witness statements from various govt bodies, from notaries, care homes, etc plus the random doc that looks like one of these but isnt - so for example a doc stamped Stadtamt is valid because Stadt means City (majors office etc) but Stadtkasse isnt because kasse: bank.

Now, apparently they had originally a higher wage for language speakers, but this year they had no budget for it (ofc). And they rely on the fact that most of us are dirty mexican immigrunts stealin our jerbs and basically come with extra languages for free.

With firing me & john (the other 1-day guy) they lost all FR and DE plus another girl (who was pregnant, no joke) does Hindi. They have 1 IT left who is a manager so hasnt got much time.

Plus, where i really smash it, is general knowledge, so knowing that a spanish doc needs to be processed under Africa because Boa Vista is Cabo Verde which isnt Spain, and thats the difference between a 90yo guy getting his pension or not for the next 6 months.