I did Tony TRIM on my SSD and the performance went DOWN

[996GT2]

I've had my Kingston 40GB SSD Now V-Series (the 34nm Intel one) for about 3 weeks now, and I decided to run Tony TRIM since the drive does not yet support TRIM natively. I followed the exact procedures from the OCZ forums: ran Perfectdisk 10 in "consolidate free space" mode and then followed by running AS Cleaner 0.5. I ran AS SSD Benchmark before and after, but the performance seems to have gone DOWN after. I made sure to close any perfectdisk processes from task manager prior to running the benchmark again afterward, so I'm not sure why the performance went down.

My drive has about 12.5 GB free space and I am running Win 7 Pro x64 on a machine with 2.4 Penryn C2D and 4 GB RAM.

BEFORE:

AFTER:

Can anyone tell me why the performance decreased afterwards and how to get it back?

 

[KenAF]

Nevermind.

 

[Old Hippie]

Weird, works great on mine.

Did you check the "with FF" box on AS Cleaner?

 

[996GT2]

Yes, followed every step

 

[996GT2]

Any ideas? I re-ran AS SSD bench today and the performance remains the same. That is to say...it went down after running Tony TRIM and has stayed down.

 

[Yuriman]

Same, my performance is down since running Tony Trim. I'm running it again, to see if it makes a difference... I'm thinking that running free-space consolidation on the Intel SSDs isn't such a great idea.


EDIT: Ran it again, seeing a roughly 25% loss in write performance across the board from "pre-trim".

 

[Yuriman]

Rebooted after running Tony Trim, and my file table was missing. Had to reformat.

 

[996GT2]

Same, my performance is down since running Tony Trim. I'm running it again, to see if it makes a difference... I'm thinking that running free-space consolidation on the Intel SSDs isn't such a great idea.


EDIT: Ran it again, seeing a roughly 25% loss in write performance across the board from "pre-trim".

Yeah, I have a feeling that the Tony TRIM method only works on Indilinx and other non-Intel SSDs? This is a bummer, since I don't know how to get that lost performance back now...

Any ideas from anyone here?

 

[Voo]

I'd say formatting the drive will heal every wound, but other than that, we'd probably have to know what went wrong.

 

[996GT2]

I'd say formatting the drive will heal every wound, but other than that, we'd probably have to know what went wrong.

So if I do a full system backup in Trueimage, then format the drive and do a full system restore, all should be well again?

 

[skid00skid00]

Yeah, I have a feeling that the Tony TRIM method only works on Indilinx and other non-Intel SSDs? This is a bummer, since I don't know how to get that lost performance back now...
Any ideas from anyone here?

"Tony-trim" certainly worked on my X25 Gen 1...

However, AS-cleaner *really* worked, giving me the best AS SSD benches I've seen on one of my two X25's, and near-the-top benches on the other.

The only downside of AS-cleaner/FreeSpaceCleanerFF is that it wrote 70 GB to each drive. That's a week of wear for my home system.

 

[996GT2]

"Tony-trim" certainly worked on my X25 Gen 1...

However, AS-cleaner *really* worked, giving me the best AS SSD benches I've seen on one of my two X25's, and near-the-top benches on the other.

The only downside of AS-cleaner/FreeSpaceCleanerFF is that it wrote 70 GB to each drive. That's a week of wear for my home system.

Hmm, what was the procedure you used on your X-25M G1? My Kingston drive is based on the X-25M G2 architecture, so it should show an improvement as well after using Tony-TRIM.

I first ran Perfectdisk 10 on my SSD in "consolidate free space" mode with the "aggressively consolidate free space" option checked. After that finished, I immediately ran AS-Cleaner with FF enabled. However, after doing these steps and rebooting, my benchmark scores remained lower than before I ran Perfectdisk and AS-Cleaner...

 

[skid00skid00]

Hmm, what was the procedure you used on your X-25M G1? My Kingston drive is based on the X-25M G2 architecture, so it should show an improvement as well after using Tony-TRIM.

I first ran Perfectdisk 10 on my SSD in "consolidate free space" mode with the "aggressively consolidate free space" option checked. After that finished, I immediately ran AS-Cleaner with FF enabled. However, after doing these steps and rebooting, my benchmark scores remained lower than before I ran Perfectdisk and AS-Cleaner...

I originally ran PD10 consolidate, then ran CCleaners' wipe free space. I then ran PD10 two more times over the last month, and then ran AS-cleaner after another week. My drives only have 11-13GB used...

My drives are also aligned on 32k, and I'm running AHCI, and have write caching turned on.

 

[RU482]

I originally ran PD10 consolidate, then ran CCleaners' wipe free space. I then ran PD10 two more times over the last month, and then ran AS-cleaner after another week. My drives only have 11-13GB used...

My drives are also aligned on 32k, and I'm running AHCI, and have write caching turned on.

wow, sounds like alot of work

 

[Old Hippie]

I then ran PD10 two more times over the last month,

I just have mine on auto.

 

[SolMiester]

God damn it, can someone please tell me where to get this benchmark AS SSD?

 

[Seven]

God damn it, can someone please tell me where to get this benchmark AS SSD?

Type "benchmark AS SSD" into google..

 

[SolMiester]

Type "benchmark AS SSD" into google..

Yeah, been doing that, nothing...anyway, Voo has posted a link thanks!

 

[zuffy]

http://www.alex-is.de/PHP/fusion/news.php

 

[skid00skid00]

wow, sounds like alot of work

No. OVERCLOCKING was alot of work!
If you want the best (in *anything*), it takes effort. If you DONT want the best performance in your PC, why bother spending the $$$ to get an SSD in the first place?

 

[taltamir]

stop using tony trim, use the drive normally for some time, and see if the performance goes back to normal (it should)

 

[kstud]

Same Problem Here with my Kingston SSD 40gb and Tony-Trim...I'm going to have to set aside some time for a full reformat.

 

[Engineer]

stop using tony trim, use the drive normally for some time, and see if the performance goes back to normal (it should)

Without TRIM, why would it?

 

[railman]

Try this, use windows disk cleanup to delete unnecessary files then run AS Cleaner again. I have found that the consolidate free space step is not necessary and I think it might itself degrade performance. I have an 3 SSD's 2 with Samsung controllers and 1 with Jmicron controller, I use AS Cleaner on all of them and it works well without the PD defrag being used.

 

[kstud]

I cleaned system before I did Tony-Trim and AS cleaner...which included disk clean up, registry, and internet clean up. Went with the Tony-Trim and the performance went into the crapper.