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I demand an entertainment center remote control standard!!!

brxndxn

Diamond Member
Okay.. I finally finished setting up my entire system.. receiver, speakers, hdtv, pvr/cable box, nintendo wii (with component cables)... using my Logitech Harmony 550.

That was a huge bitch.. even Logitech's exellent software screwed up more than once in my jumbled mess that required certain things like the Wii needed the receiver to be on component 2 assigned to VCR while the TV was on component 1.. etc..

Shouldn't, in this day and age, we finally have some sort of remote control standard? Why the fvck should us couch potatoes have to rack our brains just to set up our damn systems.. or jumble multiple remotes around since there's always 1 fvckign setting that cannot be controlled universally. I'm tired of it.

We already agreed pretty much that ketchup packets are too small..

I propose we also agree that the current remote situation with entertainment centers is also CRAP.

Here's what I propose:

- Universal remotes should have infrared and radio control built-in.
- A standard.. call it IEEE 8008.7008.. for all new living room electronics to communicate in terms of control

I don't feel like typing any more since I'm not as annoyed as I was when I started this topic. Sorry.
 
I have a harmony and it was a breeze to setup and all my things are on various inputs and such as well. I don't know what your problem is, but mine works great.
 
You guys can poo-poo him all you want, but he's right. There is no reason for the vast array of codes between manufacturers to exist.
 
Originally posted by: mugs
If you set a standard, wouldn't that create a limit for aditional functionality?

Not at all. You equip each componant with 3-4 sets of universal codes. Like A, B, C and D.
 
Harmony rocks, except for the web-based config...I hate that, because I bought mine at Christmas time and I couldn't get on their website for 3 days...ugh...
 
Originally posted by: thehstrybean
Harmony rocks, except for the web-based config...I hate that, because I bought mine at Christmas time and I couldn't get on their website for 3 days...ugh...

Yeah, the website being down has prevented me from getting my current setup programmed in a couple times 😛
 
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: mugs
If you set a standard, wouldn't that create a limit for aditional functionality?

Not at all. You equip each componant with 3-4 sets of universal codes. Like A, B, C and D.

That's not what I meant. Suppose a receiver maker came up with a new feature that nobody had. The command for that feature would not be part of the standard.
 
I wish I could make my Logitech Harmony 880 not attempt to turn anything on or off when I select an Activity. If I want to do that, I'll press the power button. Blah.
 
I didn't know this was such a problem.

I have three remotes. TV, Cable box and DVD player.

I have my cable remote setup to control everything including my 7.1 surround sound.

Just one remote for me.
 
I didn't know this was such a problem.

I have three remotes. TV, Cable box and DVD player.

I have my cable remote setup to control everything including my 7.1 surround sound.

Just one remote for me.
 
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: mugs
If you set a standard, wouldn't that create a limit for aditional functionality?

Not at all. You equip each componant with 3-4 sets of universal codes. Like A, B, C and D.

That's not what I meant. Suppose a receiver maker came up with a new feature that nobody had. The command for that feature would not be part of the standard.

They could make a new revision to the old standard and make it backwards compatible with the old standard, much like the 802.11b/g standards.

But the entertainment industry changes way too fast. We'd have a new standard every year.
 
Originally posted by: yllus
I wish I could make my Logitech Harmony 880 not attempt to turn anything on or off when I select an Activity. If I want to do that, I'll press the power button. Blah.

Why? Isn't that the point of the remote; having it control everything automatically and seamlessly?
 
Originally posted by: blurredvision
Originally posted by: hx009
Originally posted by: brxndxn
... using my Logitech Harmony 550.
...
- Universal remotes should have infrared and radio control built-in.
They do. You bought the wrong model.
Not everyone can afford half of their mortgage payment on a remote.

Oh please. The guy has a receiver, presumably 5.1 (or more) speakers, hdtv, pvr, a brand new wii, and a $100+ universal remote. I hardly think he's hurting for the cash. It's just too bad he cheaped out on the remote 😕
 
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: mugs
If you set a standard, wouldn't that create a limit for aditional functionality?

Not at all. You equip each componant with 3-4 sets of universal codes. Like A, B, C and D.

That's not what I meant. Suppose a receiver maker came up with a new feature that nobody had. The command for that feature would not be part of the standard.

Some of us with more complicated setups like that there are different codes for things. I have a Boston Acoustics Pre-pro, an Onkyo 602, and a Sherwood 2030 receiver in my system. The BA and Onkyo get along fine since the remote codes are different. My Sherwood shares many of the same remote functions as my Boston Acoustics Pre-Pro though, so increasing volume on one for example increases the volume on the other... switching to the phono input on the 2030 switches the BA's input to phono as well.

I'm going to need to block the remote sensor for the 2030 and adjust it manually to have everything set up well.

I'm not sure if this is what you were saying, but having some standardized codes for different functions would really fvck up someone running more than one device of a single type.
 
Originally posted by: yllus
I wish I could make my Logitech Harmony 880 not attempt to turn anything on or off when I select an Activity. If I want to do that, I'll press the power button. Blah.
You can. Just set the devices to always be on. I think it's under advanced settings for each device. Sorry, I don't feel like looking the exact steps up.
 
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