I can't say I agree with their methods, but this cracks me up...

conjur

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Several children and adults suffered minor injuries from the pipe, police said.

That's a helluva pipe!
 

DaveSimmons

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cool! And I can say I agree with their methods.

The main argument against vigilantes, often made ham-handedly on TV and in movies is they all "must" either:
- make mistakes and hurt or kill the wrong people
- go psycho and start killing people for jaywalking

Neither applies here, so yay vigilantes!
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
cool! And I can say I agree with their methods.

The main argument against vigilantes, often made ham-handedly on TV and in movies is they all "must" either:
- make mistakes and hurt or kill the wrong people
- go psycho and start killing people for jaywalking

Neither applies here, so yay vigilantes!

Again, this is NOT vigilantism.

Vigilantism is taking the law into your own hands AFTER the fact. (catching a crook after he has committed the crime and dispensing your own "justice.") Stopping a crime in progress to save your own life, or the life of another is SELF DEFENSE.
 

Scarpozzi

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I totally agree with their methods... Do you have any pics of the 16 year old? Is she hot?
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
I totally agree with their methods... Do you have any pics of the 16 year old? Is she hot?

Does it matter if she's hot? :confused:
 

dullard

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I'd have to ask the question: what would happen if the shooter was a cop? Most likely if a cop gave a warning and the beting continued, a shooting would result in a temporary suspension of duties and an internal investigation - but the cop would never be prosecuted. Why should anything change if you replace "cop" with citizen?

Of course I'd never advocate citizens to shoot others. But since it is done, I don't think the shooter deserves much punishment.
 
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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
cool! And I can say I agree with their methods.

The main argument against vigilantes, often made ham-handedly on TV and in movies is they all "must" either:
- make mistakes and hurt or kill the wrong people
- go psycho and start killing people for jaywalking

Neither applies here, so yay vigilantes!

Again, this is NOT vigilantism.

Vigilantism is taking the law into your own hands AFTER the fact. (catching a crook after he has committed the crime and dispensing your own "justice.") Stopping a crime in progress to save your own life, or the life of another is SELF DEFENSE.

Technically, defending someone else isn't "self-defense" ... ;)

The official term used for that situation up here is "Justified defense of self or other"

- M4H
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: dullard
I'd have to ask the question: what would happen if the shooter was a cop? Most likely if a cop gave a warning and the beting continued, a shooting would result in a temporary suspension of duties and an internal investigation - but the cop would never be prosecuted. Why should anything change if you replace "cop" with citizen?

Of course I'd never advocate citizens to shoot others. But since it is done, I don't think the shooter deserves much punishment.

The cop is paid to put his life on the line, and thus is expected to use restraint when stopping a crime in progress. The average citizen is not.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
cool! And I can say I agree with their methods.

The main argument against vigilantes, often made ham-handedly on TV and in movies is they all "must" either:
- make mistakes and hurt or kill the wrong people
- go psycho and start killing people for jaywalking

Neither applies here, so yay vigilantes!

Again, this is NOT vigilantism.

Vigilantism is taking the law into your own hands AFTER the fact. (catching a crook after he has committed the crime and dispensing your own "justice.") Stopping a crime in progress to save your own life, or the life of another is SELF DEFENSE.

Technically, defending someone else isn't "self-defense" ... ;)

The official term used for that situation up here is "Justified defense of self or other"

- M4H

Yeah yeah. :p Same thing. :)